(Malaysiakini) - PODCAST For the 21st Middle Malaysia podcast, media consultant Oon Yeoh speaks to prominent civil rights lawyer Malik Imtiaz about various legal matters, starting with Bersih 3.0.

He gives his view on whether the mammoth rally was in fact an illegal rally. He also talks about the lawsuit the government has instituted against the Bersih steering committee.

Malik also expresses concern over the Borders case where a manager was charged by the Islamic authorities for selling a book that was at the time not yet banned. He explains why it's worrying because the Islamic authorities are going beyond their jurisdiction.

On an rather interesting note, Malik gives his views on well-known blogger Raja Petra Kamarudin's switch from supporting Pakatan Rakyat to being its chief critic.

Hear his no-holds barred take on the "tragedy" of Raja Petra, whom Malik now dismisses as "quite irrelevant".

Back to legal matters, Malik shares his view on whether BN would give up power peacefully should it lose the general election and what would happen.

Malik gives an interesting twist on what he thinks could happen should there be an attempt by the BN government to declare Emergency if there is an upset in the polls.

The lawyer concludes the conversation by describing a scenario that could bring about a change in government.

Listen to Malik in this 12-minute podcast.