Give me atheist leaders any time. As Karl Marx said, “The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.” And as Lenin said, “There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”
NO HOLDS BARRED
Raja Petra Kamarudin
Unbridled civil rights ‘recipe for disaster’, say BN MPs
(The Malaysian Insider) - Barisan Nasional MPs today defended the new laws regulating public assembly, saying that it showed progress and guaranteed more freedom compared to previous legislation.
BN leaders argued that the Peaceful Assembly Bill was favourable to “all parties”, and said the restrictions were necessary to keep society in check.
“Civil rights groups have to understand, unbridled rights is a recipe for disaster,” Umno MP Datuk Abdul Rahman Dahlan told The Malaysian Insider.
“Dissenting views must be heard, and it is included in the spirit of the law. The government has shifted its approach from a position of absolute power to advisory,” the Kota Belud MP said.
Citing the Police Act as an example, Abdul Rahman said new regulations were an improvement of the old Act.
He said the new laws did not require anyone to apply for a permit from the police, only a formal notification.
“You have to compare the new law to Section 27 of the Police Act. Some people are now complaining about the need to notify the police.
“That is needed for their protection, if you don’t inform the police how can they protect you if anything happens?” asked the BN backbencher.
Datuk Wan Junaidi Wan Jaafar said the new assembly law showed progress and that the government had satisfied the needs of all Malaysians.
“You want to have your right to a demonstration at Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman, but people who live there also have their rights.
“The law is more relaxed, and gives more work to the police,” said the Dewan Rakyat Deputy Speaker. (READ MORE HERE)
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The small-minded Barisan Nasional leaders are foaming at the mouth screaming about how more freedom, democracy and civil rights are being allowed Malaysians.
Yes, these are people who are leaders, Members of Parliament, Malaysia’s lawmakers, many who are even beneficiaries of a tertiary education, and supposedly very religious people. But I personally know uneducated fishermen and farmers who can think and talk better than these people.
And trust me on this because for 20 years I lived amongst fisherman and farmers and was the Chairman of the residents’ committee and of the local mosque, 70-80% who were fishermen and farmers. So I DO know how they think and talk.
To these Barisan Nasional people, civil rights is just about freedom to hold demonstrations (subject to the police allowing it to be held) and more freedom to speak your mind (as long as you do not criticise the Rulers, the religious department, the Malays, Islam, the Prime Minister’s wife, government leaders, or touch on whatever the government may consider ‘sensitive issues’ -- and the government will determine what constitutes ‘sensitive issues’).
See how narrow the concept of civil liberties and freedom is to these people? And they will determine what can and cannot be done and said. This, as Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad and Lee Kuan Yew said, is called ‘guided democracy’. And this is what Malaysia and Singapore practices.
Actually, civil liberties or civil rights extend to more than just ‘controlled demonstrations’ and ‘limited freedom of speech’. There are many things under the ambit of civil liberties. And this is something these so-called educated government leaders from both the government and opposition do not understand. And that is why we need to line them all up against the wall and shoot them dead, figure of speech of course, although literally would not be such a bad idea as well.
When we talk about civil rights we must look beyond just demonstrations and freedom of speech (although that would be a good start). For example, the right to clean and interrupted water supply is also your civil right. And are Malaysians being given this?
I wrote about this back in 2000 (see the ADDENDUM below) so I do not need to repeat what I have already said. Denying the people of Kelantan clean water (and this has been prevalent since long before Merdeka) is a violation of their civil rights.
Of course, if the Kelantanese were to kick out PAS and vote Umno into power then the state will be given the water it needs. This is blackmail. In the meantime how many Kelantanese need to die of Cholera and other water-borne diseases? Umno is prepared to allow Kelantanese to die just to punish them and blackmail them into voting for Umno.
Yes, Umno, is the largest Islamic party in the world, so claims Umno. And 97-98% of the Kelantanese people are Muslims. But it is okay for Muslims to kill Muslims for political considerations. And Umno has the gall to laugh at the state government for not being able to provide the Kelantanese with clean water.
1. Incumbent upon PAS government to provide quality water in Kelantan: Mustapa (READ HERE)
2. BN can resolve Kelantan water problem in five years (READ HERE)
3. Kelantan hospital faces dire water shortage (READ HERE)
4. Water problem in Kelantan getting worse (READ HERE)
5. 30 schools and 30,000 students hit by water woes (READ HERE)
As I have always said, we must be very careful with people who foam at the mouth and scream about Islam. These would normally be the biggest hypocrites. The more they talk about Islam the more we need to guard against them.
I never trust anyone who always talks about religion, whether they are Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists or whatever. Since time immemorial, people have been killed in the name or religion by people who claim to be doing God’s work.
Show me all those war criminals and mass murderers and I will show you people who have a religion. Okay, maybe some will now say that Stalin was an atheist. Actually, he was not an atheist. He did have faith. It is just that he was not a religionist. And there is a big difference between a religionist and those who believe that there is a God (theist). You can believe in God without being a religionist, which was what Stalin was.
Anyway, that is not the issue. The issue is many so-called religionists who foam at the mouth when they talk about their religion do not understand what civil rights means and have no respect for civil liberties. And this violates the so-called religion that they profess and try to preach to us.
Give me atheist leaders any time. As Karl Marx said, “The first requisite for the happiness of the people is the abolition of religion.” And as Lenin said, “There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”
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ADDENDUM
Killing the Kelantanese with no water
When the Anwar Ibrahim poisoning crisis erupted late last year, Mahathir pooh-poohed the whole matter by saying that Malays do not murder for political ends.
Not quite true!
Samad Goal was murdered in Kota Bharu - head split open with an axe. The "old timers" tell me, while he was giving a speech during a political rally. Dato Tahar was murdered - I was told, shot all over his body. Some people tell me Dr Burhanuddin Hilmi was poisoned. And those are only the ones I know about. And they were all murdered for political reasons.
Yes, Malays DO murder for political ends.
Is Mahathir now killing off the Kelantanese, his political rivals, by denying them water?
This is what Mahathir said recently, "However, the Kelantan government could not even ensure clean water for its people. When you turn on the tap, you get coffee instead''.
To Mahathir it is all a big joke - something to laugh about. The Kelantan opposition government cannot even provide clean water for its people. Mahathir thinks it is so funny.
Mahathir added that the Kelantan State government was seeking help from the Federal Government to overcome its water woes. "They are asking for 600 million Ringgit from us. If we have that kind of money, we will put it to good use".
Yes, that's right. If the Federal Government had 600 million Ringgit they would put it to good use. They would not give it to the Kelantan State government to provide water to its 1,500,000 people. That is not good use for the money.
600 million Ringgit can build an F1 racetrack. Foreigners can use the track to enjoy themselves. 600 million Ringgit can also build a beautiful tower in the middle of Kuala Lumpur. That is better use for the money. Water for 1,500,000 people in Kelantan is definitely NOT good use.
Kelantan has been facing a water shortage problem for the last 20 or 30 years - long before the opposition took over the State. In 1990, the state fell to the opposition. The Federal Government then suddenly decided to cancel the plan to spend 600 million Ringgit to improve the water supply in the State.
The members of the Kelantan Branch of the Housing Developers Association met the Minister-in-Charge of the State, Anwar Musa, to discuss the water problem with him. These developers could not hand over their houses to their buyers as there was no water supply and they were losing money because of it.
Anwar Musa told the developers, if they wanted water, they would have to vote in the Barisan Nasional the next general election. As long as the State was under the opposition they would get no water.
Then the Federal Government announced they were giving Kelantan State the 600 million Ringgit they required. There was much rejoicing. Kelantan, at last, would be getting water.
Then, when everyone's hopes were high, the Federal Government announced they would not, after all, give the State the money. All hopes were dashed.
Then it was announced the State would be given the money, but the Federal government would control it and decide how it is used. Then they said the State would not get the money.
This is a cruel game to play on 1,500,000 people who have not seen clean water for two generations. You build up their hopes, then you dash it again, just to see the smiles on their faces get wiped off.
Today, Kelantan is suffering from a Cholera outbreak. Mahathir is a medical man. He knows how and why Cholera is spread.
Does Mahathir announce the water embargo on Kelantan is off? Does Mahathir now give them the 600 million Ringgit promised and un-promised so many times?
No! Instead, TV3 parades people before their cameras to show them condemning the Kelantan Government for not being able to overcome the State water woes.
The water woes were there long before the opposition took over the State. It is not the opposition government's fault. They inherited the problem when they took over a State that already had no water.
This is a cruel game to play on the people of Kelantan. It is not funny, and Mahathir should wipe that smirk of his face. People are dying in Kelantan. And it's all because they have no water. And they have no water because the Federal Government is trying to bring the State to its knees.
Was it not Mahathir who condemned the US for its embargo on Iraq? Was it not Mahathir who said the embargo is causing the deaths of thousands of innocent children? Was it not Mahathir who called the Americans murderers for doing this?
Does Mahathir not see he is now killing innocent Kelantanese by denying them water? Is Mahathir so sure those dead from Cholera voted for the opposition? What if they did not? What if they did not vote at all? What if they are children and babies who are not even voters yet?
Mahathir, are you not a Malay? Are not the Kelantanese Malays? Did you not say Malays do not murder for political ends?
Mahathir, stop killing off innocent children and babies! Stop the Cholera epidemic in Kelantan! Give Kelantan the water they need! Give them the water they have been waiting generations for.
Most importantly of all, Mahathir, stop gloating. Wipe that smirk off your face. It is not as funny as you think. Denying the Kelantan people water does not prove how incapable the opposition is in running the State. It just proves you would gladly resort to murdering innocent babies just to defeat a political rival.
May God have mercy on you, Mahathir, for all those deaths in Kelantan!
Raja Petra Kamarudin (28 September 2000)
written by lakian, November 24, 2011 13:45:53
mahathir is selling his soul,using the malays to murder,to kill the malays,at the same time to grasp weakness and stupidity of the malays to control the malays.he keep addressing the malay community should be united otherwise become manority on the other side he used the malays to kill the malays.umno you are under the curse of mahatir.after all he is not a malay.
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written by IbnAbdHalim, November 24, 2011 13:11:53
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written by IbnAbdHalim, November 24, 2011 13:07:57
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written by educationist, November 24, 2011 06:15:33
Ambiga has told us the new so called Peaceful Assembly Bill is actually unconstitutional!!
Her word alone is enough!!
The rakyat must put the UMNOputras on notice: we will no longer surrender more of our civil rights!!
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written by Atheist, November 24, 2011 05:47:19
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written by JJFoo, November 24, 2011 00:47:51
LKY guided S'pore to be a first world nation with one of the highest per capital income in the world.
Where did "Mamak" guide us? Bankruptcy by 2020?
There is a difference between a nation builder and a crook.
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written by arazak, November 24, 2011 00:37:12
Not only the so called "Muslim" UMNO regime had been poisoning the Muslims in Kelantan with bad water, they had also been stealing the Kelantanese Muslim's petroleum royalty money year in and year out!
Imagine this. . ., Toon Mamak Kutty was so eager to bail out his son's defunct Konsortium Perkapalan with the peoples' money but when it comes to pay the rightful dues of petroleum royalty money to Kelantan, Toon Mamak Kuttty made so many excuses that in the end till now the Malay Muslims in Kelantan are being treated like beggars seeking money which rightfully belong to them. And that is why we need to pin Toon Kutty to the wall and shoot him dead, figure of speech of course, although literally would not be such a bad idea as well.
And imagine this too. . ., another Karela Mummy Jarum wasted over RM200 million of the peoples' money for the "lembu" project which eventually became her family personal "condo" project. For this money, the thieving UMNO goons treated like their own "kepala bapak's" money being channeled by the Federal government through the Ministry of Agriculture. And yet. . ., the UMNO regime Federal government could not even spare similar amount of money to improve the water quality for the Kelantanese people.
Again, this why we should line up all those thieving UMNO sons (and daughters) of bitches to the wall and shoot them, figure of speech of course, although literally would not be such a bad idea as well.
Still wants to keep this bully tyrant regime?
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written by lynn, November 23, 2011 23:42:57
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written by lynn, November 23, 2011 23:32:02
We still have potholes everywhere, in Selangor, KL - this task of maintaining roads in good condition should be the burden of BN govt since the govt collects taxes from us in every conceivable form. It shld not be the state's responsibility unless federal funds are disimbursed for the purpose.
Here are some thought provoking Atheist quotes:
Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer. – Anonymous
It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. – Mark Twain
When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. – Robert Pirsig
Animals do not have gods, they are smarter than that. – Ronnie Snow
"A believer is a bird in a cage, a freethinker is an eagle parting the clouds with tireless wing." - Robert Ingersoll, Individuality
"Organized religion: The world's largest pyramid scheme." - Bernard Katz
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church." - Ferdinand Magellan
"I cannot believe in a God who wants to be praised all the time." - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing, all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." - Gene Roddenberry
"An Atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An Atheist believes that deed must be done instead of a prayer said. An Atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated." - Madalyn Murray O'Hair, founder of American Atheists.
"If Jesus had been killed 20 years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little Electric Chairs around their necks instead of crosses" - Lenny Bruce
"Out of convicted rapists, 57% admitted to reading pornography. 95% admitted to reading the Bible."
The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein
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written by earthman, November 23, 2011 23:19:20
That is, if one knows the word then only one can fully understand the word. For the word brings lives. Like water , the word makes a river of live and all living creatures depends on it. If one does not know civil liberty ,one tends to describe it according to one's own understanding or liking even if it is very wrong or evil. Same as if you do not know me, you would be thinking that I am what you think I wrote here. Is it right to do this?
I am amazed and sad that religious and those who think they worship god , would deny the rights of others in the name of god or rights , even not to provide clean water. How can they know god?. For not all who call god god or worshiped god may know God. For they who provide a drink of clean water to the thirsty or give a shelter to the homeless, do unto God. Their god is not God if they think they are the only people of god.For God love all He had created.
The Barisan MPs are only praising the emperor's new clothe. For they know not the word.
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written by vhari, November 23, 2011 23:17:27
The principle in politics is destroy anything or go in truce for sake of power,
Dr,Ismail said,` Politics is the art of possibilities `,
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written by Motherchell, November 23, 2011 23:16:04
""Yes, these are people who are leaders, Members of Parliament, Malaysia’s lawmakers, many who are even beneficiaries of a tertiary education, and supposedly very religious people."""
For a minute i give their fathers a vacation. These are children who have had the best-- public money can buy!! Not one child of the Uputras has understood anything that is wrong in their father's hypocrisies. Many who are still walking the back-lanes and corridors of imposed power---some turning in their graves!!
Well!--These children have had the the best schools--but it was treated as more a child care center --they were not there in International Institutions to develop the power of reasoning and wisdom. They were just thrown into far flung areas to take over at a latter date when their fathers lay bedridden and filled with filth. That was their limited knowledge inculcated since their "" accidental"" births!! That was all they needed to continue their march into the coffers of their Nation. None shined at every golden spoon feeds!!
This brave little girl of 13 demanded to chart out her right to freedom to ""think"". SHE IS Malala Yousufzai . SHE STOOD UP TO BE COUNTED!! In Canland you have overfed overgrown Profs, Tuns, Datoks, and Datok Sris. None have a backbone--- or for that matter their Birth Certs are apology letters from condom factories.
MALALA YOUSUFZAI would have had only street lamps to study under when home or complete her homework but she had the indomitable will to understand the ""rights"" inside the wrongs!! She shares the same teachings of the religion as the ones who profess they know better in Canland!
[urlhttp://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/Regional/Islamabad/22-Nov-2011/Swati-girl-nominated-for--peace-award]
Swati girl nominated for peace award
Published: November 22, 2011
ISLAMABAD (Agencies) – A brave Swati girl Malala Yousufzai, 13, who wrote about the Taliban banning girls’ schools in the picturesque valley has been nominated for the International Children’s Peace Prize.
Malala was a victim of the ban imposed by the Taliban on education for girls in the Swat Valley over two years ago.........................Yousufzai, a Class 8 student, beat 93 contestants from 42 countries to be nominated for the International Children’s Peace Prize 2011. If she wins, she will be given the award by Nobel Peace Laureate Desmond Tutu....................................................................................................
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written by mick_err_stan, November 23, 2011 23:06:36
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written by vhari, November 23, 2011 23:02:13
Das Capital must be updated with changes of world to be effective.
Karl Max thought rich countries will take up communism.Not very true
Karl Max thought communism can be use to convert India to christianity.Not true also
This shows to me , the creator himself all knowing about communism and Karl Max is just a messenger .
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written by SoundMan, November 23, 2011 21:58:12
Mahathir is not a Muslim nor a Malaya. Never ever!
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written by cheekhiaw, November 23, 2011 21:28:56
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written by Hanuman, November 23, 2011 21:14:06
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written by flyer168, November 23, 2011 21:08:13
That is a good analysis and article about the situation in Bolehland.
Yes, "May God have mercy on you, Mahathir, for all those deaths in Kelantan!"
Bush, Blair guilty in Mahathir tribunal - http://news.smh.com.au/breakin...1ntay.html
"The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal, part of an initiative by former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad - a fierce critic of the Iraq war - found the former leaders guilty after a four-day hearing..."
Judging from the above....
Is Mamakutty any better than Bush or Blair to initiate the Tribunal?
“We have become a Nazi monster in the eyes of the whole world, a nation of bullies and bastards who would rather kill than live peacefully. We are not just Whores for power and oil, but killer whores with hate and fear in our hearts. We are human scum, and that is how history will judge us.
No redeeming social value. Just whores. Get out of our way, or we'll kill you.’ - Hunter Thompson, journalist
"And the question is: To whom have we so carelessly granted that power?
Are THEY the kind who would understand YOU , who from their experiences would know something of the fears and struggles you have faced?
Will THEY care about YOU or about JUSTICE?” - Gerry Spence, American lawyer
I am not interested in power for power's sake, but I'm interested in power that is moral, that is right and that is good - Martin Luther King, Jr.
"No matter how noble the objectives of a government, if it blurs decency and kindness, cheapens human life and breeds ill will and suspicion – it is an evil government" - Eric Hoffer, The Passionate State of Mind 1954
The raison d’etre for any nation is the rule of law, justice and freedom for the people.
You be the judge.
Shalom.
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written by Angela Ooi, November 23, 2011 20:57:04
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written by Pato, November 23, 2011 20:54:19
More and more senior DPPs are throwing in the towel and the list includes Solicior-General II Mohd Yusof. Sources claim that the AG is to be blamed for this.
PUTRAJAYA: Allegations of internal politicking, nepotism and cronyism are swirling in the Attorney-General’s Chambers and fed-up deputy public prosecutors (DPPs) are tendering their letters for optional retirement.
Those interviewed by FMT agreed to voice their grievances on condition of anonymity.
These legal eagles believe that the rot is beyond repair and pin the blame on Attorney-General Abdul Gani Patail himself.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.c...-chambers/
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written by albert zacharias, November 23, 2011 20:23:19
You are right on civil rights and Raayat must not be denied of their rights to live a resonable lifestyle in Malaysia. Afterall Malaysia is not a poor country by any standard.
If government do not provide Raayat the basic rights like water, electricity, good roads 50 years ago it is acceptable. My family lost a son, brother those days due to no provision of drinking water. He died of diahorrea.
50 years forward and we still have reasonably easily accessed kampongs without clean water and electricity! Apa ini?
Now Raayat wants/demands their rights for proper governance. Malaysia's wealth is being squandered right left and centre by these irresponsible so called leaders. Our rights to assemble to show our displeasure and making a point is GOD given and not given by politicians.
The whole world is crying out. They assemble everywhere to find a true leader to lead them. It will take time for good, honest and civil leaders but we as Raayat must keep on demanding whether it is BN or PKR next time around...
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Rebuttal: Studies show that US conservatives (generally religious) donate magnitudes more time and money to charity than US liberals (generally irreligious). So in actual fact, the hands clasped in prayer ALSO do plenty of manual labor.
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church." - Ferdinand Magellan
Rebuttal: Disproven quote falsely attributed to Magellan, by none other than Robert Ingersoll - writer of Individuality that you cite earlier. Honestly, you still believe in the myth that people thought the world was flat past the Greeks? Look up Myth of the Flat Earth on Wikipedia.
"If Jesus had been killed 20 years ago, Catholic school children would be wearing little Electric Chairs around their necks instead of crosses" - Lenny Bruce
Rebuttal: No argument here. In fact, it is actually an amazing testimony to Christianity that it took the cross - that most feared, cruel, inhumane instrument of death - and turned it into a symbol of hope.
"Out of convicted rapists, 57% admitted to reading pornography. 95% admitted to reading the Bible."
Rebuttal: Cum hoc ergo propter hoc! 100% of convicted rapists were born from women, does that mothers are the no.1 cause of rape? One should instead poll how many of them read the Bible and did not do what it says.
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Say what you will about religion and belief in God... In 100 short years, de facto atheistic regimes led by those with an overruling hatred of supernaturalism killed more humans than all the religions in all the rest of human history combined.
The theory may sound good, but the practise leaves much to be desired.