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MT COLUMNS NO HOLDS BARRED Read my lips: 'arah' means 'advice' (UPDATED with Chinese Translation)

Read my lips: 'arah' means 'advice' (UPDATED with Chinese Translation)


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First read the Malaysiakini news report below. Then read the copy of the ‘surat arahan’ or ‘advisory letter’ below it that Nazri is talking about. 'Arah' may mean 'directive' or 'instruct' to those of you who do not speak Bahasa Malaysia well enough. But it means 'advice' to those like Ministers who do. This is what we call ‘lost in translation’.

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Nazri: I didn't instruct the GLCs, I only advised them

Hafiz Yatim, Malaysiakini

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Nazri Abdul Aziz has admitted that he sent a letter to government-linked companies (GLCs) on Aug 8 over a settlement with former Malaysia Airlines chairperson Tajudin Ramli, but denied instructing them to drop their suits against the tycoon.

Nazri said he made the move in his capacity as de facto law minister, and it came on the heels of moves by Tajudin over the past several months to come to a settlement with the government over the companies' suits against him.

It was therefore not compulsory for the companies to settle their suit, but it was conveyed to them that it was advisable, given the possible scenarios the new situation had presented, said Nazri.

The alternative was for the GLCs to further slug it out with Tajudin, without a guarantee as to when it would be resolved.

“Tajudin had been in contact with us for the past six months, proposing a settlement.

"I wrote to the GLCs after gaining approval from Second Finance Minister Ahmad Husni Hanadzlah, and as a law minister to the effect, as this case has been going on for so long - six years," Nazri told Malaysiakini when contacted.

He said it was "not necessary" for the GLCs to follow his advice, as it was up to them to decide based on what they deemed to be in their best interests.

"If they feel they can win, they can continue with fighting the suit. As a legal entity, they have the right to make their own decisions.

“I only wrote to them to remind them Tajudin had approached (the government) with a view to settle, and I merely asked them to look into it,” he said.

The minister said further that the court cases could drag on without an assurance of victory for any party.

“Let's say this case goes into trial, it will take another five to six years and on appeal. It may (even) take another 10 years. We do not know whether the suit will go our way or in favour of Tajudin. Hence, that is why the out-of-court settlement was proposed.

“However, if we settle, it must not be at an additional cost to the government. We do not want a payout,” he said, admitting that some of the GLCs, like MAS, were in a bad shape.

Earlier today, former deputy prime minister-turned opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim questioned Nazri's actions in writing to the GLCs.

Instructions to GLCs to drop their legal suits should come from the finance ministry, not Nazri, said Anwar.

Some GLCs upset

It is learnt several GLCs had disapproved of a settlement as some of them had already obtained summary judgments against Tajudin, who some said had provided a weak defence.

Some familiar with the case said such a move would not go well with the principle of corporate governance as GLCs were still public limited companies. The law requires the board of directors of these companies to decide.

It is not for someone outside the company to issue directives, and some even questioned how someone could direct a company to withdraw lawful suits.

It is learnt that Tajudin took loans from several financial institutions, totalling in excess of RM1 billion, which some alleged he was not able to repay when he took over MAS, resulting in the on-going suits.

Asked about this, Nazri said the GLCs have to look at the context that they were faced with counter-suits by Tajudin.

On the surface, the minister pointed out, when you get a summary judgment it means you win without a trial and that is just on the surface.

“However, on appeal it may go for a full trial and there is no way of telling who will be victorious. But I stress, it is upto the GLCs,” he said.

Nazri also explained that the matter came before Federal Court judge Justice Md Raus Sharif today, who was upset that the case had taken so long. Raus is the managing judge for the commercial division.

That is why, Nazri said, there was this proposed settlement.

“If nothing can be worked out by Sept 29, which is supposed to be the last date, the matter may go for a full trial,” he said, adding that between now and then, the parties concerned could discuss the matter.

Not afraid of skeletons in closet?

Asked whether the suggestion for a settlement was because the government was afraid of skeletons coming out of the closet if it were to go into full trial as there was a potential number of former VVIPs being involved, Nazri denied such a notion.

“Actually, we (the government) are not afraid if the case goes for trial,” he said, without elaborating further.

In Tajudin's counter-claim, he alleged that he had been instructed by former premier Dr Mahathir Mohamad to take over MAS and this was against his will.

His defence is mainly about doing national service and that there was a conspiracy to get him to fail.

Nazri's letter comes on the heels of questionable actions taken by the minister and government, such as the replacement of lawyers who had been involved in the case for the past five or six years.

It is learnt four to five well-known legal firms acting on behalf of the GLCs in their suits against Tajudin and on the counter-claims he filed have been replaced by the Putrajaya-based law firm of Hafarizam Wan & Aisha Mubarak, which is well known among legal circles to be aligned to Umno.

According to sources, some of the GLCs are not happy that Hafarizam Wan & Aisha Mubarak had called them up and showed them the letter, directing them to transfer all files to that firm.

“Never in history has there been a case where lawyers direct their clients to appoint them,” a senior lawyer said.

 

Translated into Chinese at: http://ccliew.blogspot.com/2011/08/blog-post_13.html

 


Comments (33)Add Comment
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written by Fart Fart Wah, August 15, 2011 12:59:07
Bangkai Gajah..macam manalah boleh ditutupi...bau bangkai..MAS masih berterusan
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written by justice seeker, August 13, 2011 11:52:32
Nazri: I didn't instruct the GLCs, I only advised them

Hafiz Yatim, Malaysiakini

Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Nazri Abdul Aziz has admitted that he sent a letter to government-linked companies (GLCs) on Aug 8 over a settlement with former Malaysia Airlines chairperson Tajudin Ramli, but denied instructing them to drop their suits against the tycoon.

ITS LIKE SAYING: DROP YOUR PANTS OR ELSE I WILL BLOW YOUR NUTS OFF. AND THAT IS MY ADVISE....????
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written by AtanSian, August 12, 2011 19:18:22
In Communist China fella like this will be trialed, executed by a bullet tot he head.
AND
the prison authorities will send a bill / demand for One ringgit to his parents for bringing up such a bastard, a National Thief.
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written by Mestizo, August 12, 2011 16:34:22
Previously, we know they lied but we don't have any evident.

In Bersih 2.0, they lied again in spite that we have Video, photo and thousand of eye witnesses.
Now they lied again in spite there were written evident. I did not know Arah in Advise. Since Nazri is a law minister, I am sure now all Malaysians esp civil servants when brought to court for disobeying "Arah", we can now say, it was merely an advise. After all the defactor Law Minister said so.
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written by DPG, August 12, 2011 15:01:31
Ha ha ha Nazri, you have been caught lying, lying like a 10-year kid who told lies when asked if he has eaten the cake on the table. Of course, this is not your first lie, and neither will it be your last. Take heart, though, that all the bigwigs in UMNO/BN and the Ministers, including the PM and DPM tell lies when it suits them. Now your balls are being squeezed and backside has been exposed for the rakyat to screw you. But then, nothing will happen to you. UMNO will still support you fully, and UMNO bigwigs are fully beind you. After all, this is what UMNO is all about. And the beautiful part is that UMNO is assured of the full support of the simple-minded kampong folks who have been hypnotized by UMNO to believe only UMNO can protect the Malay race and help them.
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written by Nixcloud, August 12, 2011 14:20:44
now, not only our so called "ruling elite" cannot speak the English language, they dont even understand basic national language either.... well done BN
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written by lakian, August 12, 2011 12:07:00
nazri the fcukshit,you are idiot but never think others are idiot.you think you are smart ass,they are many who are smarter asses.you know law never think others don't,even the ordinary people.law is not an invention,its only a thinking.
just as simple as if najib tells you to drop your job,how and what the fcuk you think,is that just merely an advice?
de facto law minister,we should call deep fake low fcuker.
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written by batsman, August 12, 2011 11:21:37
Aisehman - MACC should "arah" Nazri to tea on the top floor of the MACC building.
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written by flyer168, August 12, 2011 11:15:24
To understand the "Ruling Elite Master Plan" let us look at the "Bigger Picture" To lure the nations, governments & its citizens into "Chaos" to then execute their Plan.
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written by Divine, August 12, 2011 10:52:03
it takes a thief to help another thieve or in this case the gang of thieves help one another to save their skin
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written by bambooman, August 12, 2011 10:40:43
Hello Nazri,
How about a "surat arahan" to the Police Inspector-General to "withdraw" all the charges against RPK ? ? ?
That will a nice "advice" ! ! ! !
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written by malsia1206, August 12, 2011 10:36:39
My piece for Nazri -
The rakyat loves to meet up with Mahathir in Court. We all like his amnesia when he starts forgetting all the details. He may even deny ever knowing Tajuddin at all.

Let all these cases go on trial. You are so confident with our legal syste as the de factor Menteri.

If you back up now, the irresistible conclusion is your Government is more corrupt than ever. Show your balls. And we expect Mahathir to show his too if he still have any.
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written by bambooman, August 12, 2011 10:32:12
Hello Malaysia,
This Tajuddin is a "victim of corruption";
just like Ibrahim Ali of Perkasa - a "victim of jealousy" ! !
This is UMNO's sandiwara lah ! ! ! !
Tiew nia mah UMNO ! ! ! !
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written by arazak, August 12, 2011 10:10:11
"In Tajudin's counter-claim, he alleged that he had been instructed by former premier Dr Mahathir Mohamad to take over MAS and this was against his will.

His defence is mainly about doing national service and that there was a conspiracy to get him to fail".
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Hello Penyamun Tajudin,
Oh yeah against your will eh? You are drooling when they give MAS on a silver platter to you.

And so now we have a new term here. . ., "doing national service" means "to loot the government coffers and the peoples' money".

No wonder Toon Mamak Kutty, Sleppy Head ex-PM, Najib, Imelda Rosmah, Ling Liong Sick, Khir Toyol and the rest of the UMNO-BN goons are actively doing "national service"!
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written by Ben Nordin, August 12, 2011 10:09:26
WOW. Lying through gritted teeth. Well, actually I'm not surprised. A lot of weird stuff happened in Pak lah's government and even weirder stuff happening under NTR government. In the meantime, our ASEAN neighbors are improving their lot in leaps and bounds. We're still doing one step forward and ten steps back.
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written by truthbespoken, August 12, 2011 09:48:11
The old UMNO corrupt bunch from Mahakutty downwards is taking steps through a weak government to cover up their corrupt trials. No matter how remote the situation may be, they are all worried about a new government taking over PutraJaya eventually and flushing them and their families out for criminal conviction!

Besides Petronas, MAS is one of many other GLCs where big time abuse of funds and corruption by this group have been bursting at the seams! And Nazri's way would be UMNO's way of handling corruption and failures! No further questions asked, just compromise on UMNO abuses, corruption and failures! It's no wonder concerned Malaysians are getting angrier and fed-up by the day with this useless, corrupt and arrogant UMNO government!
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written by SoundMan, August 12, 2011 09:48:00
The cases against Tajudin Ramli, (Tan Sri) are solid and he will loose!

The struggle by the dark forces of Malaysian politics is to bury the cases against this corporate scoundrel, referred oft as the one Minute Manager, before the sweeping changes that will flood the Nation after the GE 13.
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written by JJFoo, August 12, 2011 09:26:45
We are dealing with a bunch of crooks and thieves. Together with their Kingpin Mamak, should be locked behind bars. They are treating the Rakyat like a bunch of fools and laugh their way to the bank.
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written by SpeakOut, August 12, 2011 09:00:51
RPK, thanks for exposing again and again a liar and a thief.
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written by Fart Fart Wah, August 12, 2011 08:53:26
The bangkai smells of the involvement of the Interlok Kerala Pariah Dog...
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written by ATSaari, August 12, 2011 08:48:15
let the heads roll. proceed with the court cases. slug it out in the open for the rakyat to see.
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written by Bullchick, August 12, 2011 08:40:03
Read my Quran-swearing pink pouting salivating lips! I am just following in my UMNO boss' footsteps! Gotta bodek him, you know? Otherwise, I will not be nominated come next GE and then I can't tokkok no more!
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written by michatan2000, August 12, 2011 08:38:16
UMNO looking for election funds? And ensuring that skeletons remain in the closet at the same time? UMNO/BN is beyond redemption. Any rational and logical thinking Malaysian will want to vote them out next PRU13. No other options left.
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written by Taikohtai, August 12, 2011 08:26:45
Nazri learns well from his mentor, TDM. Almost on par with TDM's nonchalant announcement of DSAI's black eye caused by his incessant walking into the fists of Karate Kid IGP.
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written by mick_err_stan, August 12, 2011 08:25:44
This government truly sucks !!!! We need to have a new government to ensure all these bloody fool, bastards (quoting IA) are held accountable. SIAL BETUL GOVERNMENT INI !!!!!!
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written by syd, August 12, 2011 08:15:53
Looks like airasia and tony fernades will be dragged down by MAS mess.
Why Airasia bother with this deal is very strange.
Immediately after the deal was announced, airport tax went up, as khazanah who owns the airport, now can direct the two airlines, which it now has shares, to pay up to their new boss.
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written by mick_err_stan, August 12, 2011 08:15:44
When I fail to pay TNB they cut my power,don't pay Syabas they send letter of demand,don't pay TM they cut phone n UniFi, Tajuddin don't pay RMbillons in debts he gets Putrajaya help to write debts off. Phwaar Malaysia Boleh to new heights man! Niamah!!! as quoted by Patrick Teoh
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written by malgal, August 12, 2011 07:33:54
methinx all this is providing cover for the mas/air asia shenanigans?
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written by malgal, August 12, 2011 07:33:14
nebulous language in official statements cannot be accepted.
does not `arah' mean `direct' and `nasihatkan' mean `advise' ?
nazri must clarify or forever remain vague and dingbatty.
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written by relaxjack, August 12, 2011 07:06:47
Howabout when police officers say "Saya menerima arahan dari pegawai atasan..." Does it mean they are receiving orders from their superior or merely an advice?
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written by singhkris, August 12, 2011 06:32:40
Bahasa seems to b such an imprecise language! Arah can mean advice! No wonder we have a lot of confused children in our schools. Moo-hee-Din, here is a good reason to bring back English to our schools.
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written by educationist, August 12, 2011 06:03:02
Never mind Anwar , this is how things are done in Bolehland now!!
We are told even the Budget Speech is read out by the Finance Minister , but he has no clue as to what he's reading and it's left to his foot soldiers to answer queries and questions arising!!
So, small matter only, the Finance Minister authorises this Nazri chap to issue the letter.
Bottom line again, the rich and well-connected get away way swindling billions of ringgit while a poor shoplifter have to spend a few months behind bars!!
This is how our Malaysian Justice system works!!
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written by Angela Ooi, August 12, 2011 05:32:42
Tajuddin reckons he was called up for 'national duty' on the behest of Mamakutty. He is currently being sued for $Billion+ n we have such a caring unLawful Minister Nazri coming out to speak on his behalf.
When it seems like there's no more things BolehCanLand Gomen can do to amaze us, they will always top themselves to give us another 'shiner'.
It clearly shows there's always (dUMNO-friendly) 'protected' criminals/crooks who will get away with $Billions, rape n muder while the common Rakyat gets the full brunt of their 'rule-by-THEIR-law'. Nazri says this case will drag on forever. Why is it so? Is is inefficiency, red tape or pure Govt INTERFERENCE?
Everyone knows justice delayed is justice denied. This is a national issue because $Billions of taxpayers' good $$$ have been pouring into this hungry but hopeless airline n a useless dUMNO govt is in the forefront to siphon more $ from it while the Rakyat's $ go towards keeping it afloat. It is said, 3 strikes n one is out' but in BolehCanLand, one can strike till kingdom come n still be in business..no wonder this wealthy country is bankrupt n there will be nothing left for our children n g1kids.

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