Singapore does not practice this system. They don’t believe that those who pandai cakap (clever in talking) and know how to suck dicks should become Singapore’s leaders. They headhunt for their leaders.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

If you can remember, one of the crucial factors for the fall of Perak was the State Secretary. He was the one who summoned the police to prevent Nizar Jamaluddin from entering his office. In fact, State Secretaries have also played a role in bringing down governments in other states as well, Terengganu being one of them.

I was counting the days when the Selangor State Secretary would retire but now that he has I find that the appointment of the new State Secretary is outside the hands of the state government and is a man who is another Umno stooge.

Umno Selangor is in deep shit. With the Khir Toyo corruption matter -- and talk that two Barisan Nasional state assemblypersons may also be involved in the murder of the Indonesian millionaires -- things are not going too well for Umno Selangor.

It seems the Indonesians are pissed about what they perceive as a cover up of the murder of one of their nationals (like how the Mongolians were earlier) and now with talk in the Umno Blogs that the Minister who raped the Indonesian maid is Rais Yatim the government may be hard-pressed in covering up this scandal any further.

So Umno needs their man in the Selangor State Government and if Menteri Besar Khalid Ibrahim can’t convince the Selangor Sultan to reject the appointment of this Umno appointee then things may be very tough for Pakatan Rakyat.

Anyway, as they say, a rumour is never confirmed until it is official denied. So let’s wait for the official denial.

On another matter, politics in Malaysia is moulded after the Umno example. All political parties copy what Umno does. But then Umno is an expert at the game which they invented so to copy Umno means you are playing with a huge handicap.

In Umno, leaders are not headhunted. They work on the system of popularity contests. You start as a member then move up into the branch committee, then branch leader, then division committee, then division leader, then state committee, then state leader, then national committee, then national leader, and so on.

You serve your time and work your way up the ranks by becoming popular with the grassroots. You could be a postman or railway crossing guard or whatever but as long as you know how to play to the gallery you will make it after 10 or 20 years climbing up the ladder.

In Umno they work on the 30:70 formula. You must show 30% loyalty to the party and 70% loyalty to the leader. Shahrir Samad is a good party man. He will live and die with Umno. He shows 100% loyalty to the party. But that means he shows zero loyalty to the party leaders. And that is why he can’t go up.

If Shahrir had practiced the 30:70 ‘code of conduct’, today he would be the Deputy Prime Minister of Malaysia. But Shahrir is not that clever (I know because I went to the same school as him -- as also did Nazri Aziz, Anwar Ibrahim, Sanusi Junid, etc.). He does not know how to suck dicks so he has been sidelined. So now Muhyiddin Yassin instead of him is the Deputy Prime Minister of Malaysia.

Singapore does not practice this system. They don’t believe that those who pandai cakap (clever in talking) and know how to suck dicks should become Singapore’s leaders. They headhunt their leaders.

Singapore has a strict criteria and a high-powered committee vets the potential candidates. The candidates are then interviewed by people such as the founding father of Singapore. And by the time the final list is decided they would have gone through every potential leader with a fine-tooth comb and counted every hair on their backside. Nothing gets past them.

Whether these people are party members or not is not the issue. Party membership is not the overriding criteria. It is your capability and integrity that will decide whether you become a Singapore leader.

Now you know why when you compare Malaysian leaders to Singapore leaders you can see a world of difference. And can you see the secret of Singapore’s success?

Okay, that may work in Singapore but that does not mean it can also work in Malaysia. That would be the first response from most people.

And why not?

Is it because Singapore is run by one party while Malaysia is run by a coalition of 14 parties?

Is it because in Singapore capability and integrity are important factors while in Malaysia it is how you suck up to the party leader?

Is it because Singapore has zero tolerance for corruption while in Malaysia corruption is not just a way of life but a religion with money as God?

Is it because in Singapore you are judged by what you are whereas in Malaysia you are judged by who you are and the titles you carry (or have bought)?

Is it because Singapore is colour-blind whereas in Malaysia priority must be given to Malays and then only if they are Umno members?

Is it because Singapore is a republic while Malaysia has ten Rulers?

Which of the above reasons is the reason why they can do it in Singapore but not in Malaysia?

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written by marge, December 29, 2010 21:12:27

The Alliance started well. The 1st finance minister was very capable and so were a lot of the other ministers. In the '70s, cronyism, nepotism, favouritsm became the standard operating system. Today the system has become so entrenched, right from top to bottom and in every level of govt service, you'll need an earthquake to wipe out the rot! Like cancer, cut off the cancerous cells, go for chemo-therapy then start afresh.

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written by onnetline, December 29, 2010 21:02:46

Khusrin is both a ' pengkianat ' and munafik !

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written by antares, December 29, 2010 12:47:31

Yes whether you like it or not, and it is in the Malaysian culture "it is not what you know, it is whom you know!" It is something of the permutations of bad cultures of Malaysian society that not only runs in the politics but in the government, public and business sector. The umeno/BeNd endorse it ma!

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written by Motherchell, December 28, 2010 23:02:15

---and mind you a PM of a Nation has all the time in the world to offer his advice to a eunuch Saipoo about the way to do it .Najis denies it first but when caught with his pants down he relents. An eunuch has more powers than the Cabinet---this was blatantly exhibited when not one Uputra dared say anything against Saipoo . PDRM gave him more protection than the maids who were abused!!! These are the ways of sucking themselves up the ladder--- a formula set by the Razaks as benchmark for free loading on the coffers. One big Beardo Jajis is a good example of a guy who slurped well to laugh his way to the bank in Washington as the Malaysian envoy. He sure knows not only slurp but grope too!!

Would Rais dare sue the alternative media ---never !!!! Rais has done more research on coitus than the ISA-- the reason for his lack of support against it!!!

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written by capricorn, December 28, 2010 21:29:25

Don't forget, honest hard working M'sians that cannot stand all this hypocrisy has gone down south to Singapore. Latest is our former CEO of Petronas, Tan Sri Hassan Merican who has been appointed Director of Sembawang Shipyard/Engineering. He took his expertise to where it is appreciated. An honest man can only put up with so much nonsense.

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written by mt31aug, December 28, 2010 18:06:44

Possibly after 2020 and at the present rate of abuses of our country wealth, instead of being a developed nation, our women may have to work as maids in other countries.By then, the reported incidents of rapes and abuses of foreign maids by their employers in our countty will happen too to our Malaysian women. It is a scary scenario

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written by Concerned_Citizen, December 28, 2010 16:32:19

who raped the Indonesian maid is Rais Yatim

This 'I change my mode' human got dick?? i though he lost it when he rejoined umno after abandoning Semangat 46 project?

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written by lynn, December 28, 2010 16:15:42

Aiyah, dear RPK, so fast you bocor the name of the accused. Nagappan said yatim (orphan) and I wanted to chip in..... hey man, Rise to the Occasion. Still no reaction fr the accused. And that FarkLah is fat asleep, napping. Reporters shld wake him up, probe him abt his knowledge & why swept matter under carpet. Now that the Indons know who is the culprit, why don't we get our popcorn, sit back & watch the sparks fly.

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written by Eskay345, December 28, 2010 16:03:50

I booked a maid from Indonesia and paid the initial deposit for her, and that was some 3-4 months ago. The agent kept saying that the two governments have not agreed to some express condition and that I have to wait longer.
But now I sort of understand why the delay.
The Indon government is scared for the safety of their maids due to many of them being reportedly raped.

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written by Nunuk Ragang, December 28, 2010 16:03:41

That's why we need MCLM to help to identify candidates who will become effective and upright representative for the people once they're elected and the works start.

For example, i dont see any rising stars in PBS, UPKO or PBRS. Just the old guards and their kuncu-kuncu guarding their boss sniffing and stunting the progress of young aspiring leaders. Self preservation and profit to the maximum is their mantra.

Macamana Dusun, Kadazan, Murut, Sungai mau maju kalau pemimpin sendiri kasi tumpul otak rakyat???

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written by justice seeker, December 28, 2010 12:27:10

Singapore does not practice this system. They don’t believe that those who pandai cakap (clever in talking) and know how to suck dicks should become Singapore’s leaders. They headhunt for their leaders.

IN BOLEHLAND, MASTERS DEGREE IN SODOMI, BLOW JOBS AND BUTT LICKING ARE EVER IN GREAT DEMAND. ONE CAN GO FAR IN HIS POLITICAL CAREER OR BUSINESS. WHY, IT IS THE ONLY WAY THE HIERACHY WORKS HERE.

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written by onnetline, December 28, 2010 12:17:58

And the bunch of us were actually thinking that Rais Yateem was nothing but a racist ' faggot ' !
He actually screws after all ..... and raping a maid ......... that's definitely FRONT PAGE !!

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written by onnetline, December 28, 2010 12:09:45

Don't believe that the Sultan will want to be blind not to see that Selangorians rejected the Bariasan Najis pariahs for state government unless he wants his citizens to curse and swear at him behind his back, as in the Perak's fiasco !

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written by Vic, December 28, 2010 11:59:41

Did I read it correctly, Pete the rapist is our 'learned' minister Rais Yatim. It look like only criminal qualify to serves in our cabinet. We are electing leaders to screw us. We sure are screwed good. So can I say we, Malaysian have been prostituted all these while.

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written by leftmalaysia, December 28, 2010 11:42:39

I can see a few conclusions to all this:

1) Mrs Rais, prepared to be talak-ed!!

2) Indo maid, prepared to be Rais wife no.4 (after his mistress no. 2 and no. 3)

3) Rais, prepare to buy more tongkat ali!! dont worry you will somehow get scotfree from the rape offence coz you are in Malaysia and you are a UMNO crony

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written by tmf, December 28, 2010 11:27:21

Yes, in Singapore, 1/3 of the PAP MPs must retire at every GE. Party's grassroot activist are not likely to be candidates. Those who are good in campaigning carry out the campaighning for those whom the PAP deems fit to be candidates. The top PAP leadership is constantly on the look out for credible candidates from PAP and also outside PAP, sometimes with lots of persuasions, not very different from MCLM. Identified candidates who are not interested in Party politics are appointed as Nominated MPs, such as our dear talent from Kampar, Olivia Lum who was personally praised and deliberated by LKY as to the reason why sometimes Singapore needs MPs from outside PAP. - Re The PAP Story.

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written by IbnAbdHalim, December 28, 2010 10:08:33

No, it's not fair to compare Singapore with Malaysia with UMNO around.

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written by mick_err_stan, December 28, 2010 08:55:15

Malaysia and Singapore are neighboring countries sharing a same history but Singapore without natural resources and land mass has overtaken Malaysia in all fields accept for corruption. Pemimpin kita SIAL BETUL !!!! Ptuiii !!!

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written by bambooman, December 28, 2010 08:42:35

The Sultan of Selangor will definitely approved the appointment.............becos it is pay back time for the Shah Alam hospital project ! ! ! !................the Sultan is a smart man lah ! ! ! !

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written by bambooman, December 28, 2010 08:39:03

Uncle Pete,
THE pertinent answer ...............could be that Singapore don't have UMNO whereas Malaysia has UMNO ! ! ! !
UMNO makes the "difference" between Malaysia and Singapore! ! ! !
Welcome to UMNO-land ! ! ! ! !

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written by batsman, December 28, 2010 08:07:10

Salam 1 Malaysia! Is Malaysian culture now determined by Apco with Rais Yatim as role model?

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written by Tompios, December 28, 2010 06:22:35

Suzuki Cup ended with supporter laser-ing Indonesian goalkeeper's eyes while waiting for the corner kick. The Indonesian supporters vowed to make revenge. Okey!! Now, why don't we PKR supporters do the same thing llike laser-ring to the UMNO's eyes? I mean, offer them how to make revenge on us in Selangor. We must wait the morality and ethics results of their attitude. Saya fikir mereka belum guna 100% kekuatan mereka untuk menawan seluruh Malaysia.

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written by malaysianohope, December 28, 2010 06:08:10

Khalid should fight tooth & nail against the appointment of the SS even to the extend of going to court if the Sultan agree with umno. In the event the Sultan sides with umno it only means that he is playing with politics & likewise can be removed politically.
As for this rais he is in deep shit this time which confirms that umno is made up of horny murderous scumbags. Hey Malaysians still want to vote for barisan ar? Padam muka!

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written by Yen.CK, December 28, 2010 05:24:29

Because those who can implement these standard will be kicking themselves out of the office. And those that meet the standard has no power to do so.

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written by casper, December 28, 2010 04:26:18

Boy oh boy, bad scene in relation to Rais Yatim. Imagine, the world's most populous Muslim nation led by Bambang has to kow-tow to Ketuanan UMNO.

For months now there has been an embargo in place and no movement of Indonesian maids to our shores and with Rais Yatim's name featured so prominently, I guess we can all lay blame on *Mrs. Rais Yatim for neglecting her conjugal duties.

* The script has been written for Mrs. Rais to swear by the Quran, witness by Imam Putrajaya that she did indeed fail her husband by going cold on him. And it was this neglect that led Rais to fall prey to the temptation of Eve !!!!

The above is not meant to humour or disrespect the victim at the receiving end but such is warp justice and twisted logic that UMNO subscribes to in their haste and desperation to remain in power.

A note of concern to President of Indonesia, His Excellency Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono c/o Embassy

Perhaps you call time out and start restoring the honour of all Indonesian maids by calling for swift action be taken by UMNO kepala dickhead Najib Mongolia.

Wiki 'bocor' wires have revealed material facts buried, implicating both Indon authorities as well as the usual UMNO suspects, but seeing that you are the honourable President of Indonesia and not party to this act of criminal trespass, why help UMNO cover up material findings of rape taken place now that it is common knowledge to the whole wide world ????

UMNO have left their trail of shit in Malaysia and all over the world - truly 'glokal' rascals that represent the worst qualities of a 'people' who claim they are 'serumpun' to your creed. Prove them wrong and distance yourself from this cesspool of evil.

Again, Your Excellency Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono - time to do right by your people and uphold the Pancasila by not yielding to the cocksuckers of UMNO.

Most respectfully and in all humility, I bid you good conscience and a Happy 2011.

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written by educationist, December 28, 2010 04:26:01

Well, RPK the PR govt. has not fallen as yet despite your dire predictions earlier.
I will like to believe and hope that even with a new big-time dick sucker appointed as SS by the UMNOputras, the PR Selangor state govt. can remain standing!!

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written by durianbesar, December 28, 2010 02:48:23

Time to start to fcuk the BN fcukers....
Let the rakyat all start to protest against the BN government and their unfair underhand practices that the UMNO fcukheads have created.....

Let's kill every UMNO fcukhead with shit bombs made from pigs blood...these fcukwits all need to be sat on the face by a big fat pig's asssss.....

Yes...... by the way... Hsiamuddin, and Najib fcukwit's son, Nazi's son all have been caught on video eating a suckling pig and drinking wine with some Taiwanese groups ..... the video will be out on MalayuLeaks....

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written by Aduh, December 28, 2010 01:50:36

NUTzri,
RPK must have you in mind. But not to worry.... apco is ever williong to issue at least two letters to testify you are not that type of guy.

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written by malsia1206, December 28, 2010 01:50:05

Let me tell you all why things can work in Singapore the way they do. It rests solely on the shoulders of just one man, SM Lee Kuan Yew. In Malaysia, his counterpart is Tun Mahathir. And that's the only reason why things work differently for the worse here. His legacy bred a bunch of morons. No more, no less.

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written by SoundMan, December 28, 2010 01:00:30

When Raja Petra Kamarudin speaks(writes) the damn nation has to listen ......and that goes for the likes of PM Najib and his fatty furious wife Rosmah.

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written by SoundMan, December 28, 2010 00:56:09

O Mi Gosh ! Change My Mode " Rais Yatim ?"

Alamak !?

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written by Bellboy263, December 28, 2010 00:40:21

Why do you think, Mahathir appointed all the stupid(Bodoh) people in government top official and political field. His motto was if dick heads and suckdeeps are the fore people under him. Then there will be no one to question his decisions. They will look upon him as GOD. Behold it has come to pass with what we see today,
Look at any failing country, company,or in any badly ran organization be it private or government the CEO is the cause of it's destruction.

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written by Sangkapura, December 28, 2010 00:32:24

RPK,

"Is it because Singapore is colour-blind whereas in Malaysia priority must be given to Malays and then only if they are Umno members?"

This one, definitely, need to be clarified. In Singapore, the Chinapore banyak "Tengok Kulit". This is still a reality. Just met-up with old schoolmates this x-mas. We talked abt it n we concurred with it.
They even insisted on the mamak store selling prata, or canai, to hire workers from PRC, at least 1 or 2 of them, instead of their traditional India sources. Or else, their the other traditional work permit workers will get harder to be permitted to continue.
This is just a tip of the BIG Ice berg bro ..... RPK, if u want more, i can share with u........ peace

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written by Davy McChester, December 27, 2010 23:49:08

Singapore thinkers gear the country for the long haul ,which requires them to discard imbeciles from the system as know their survival as a strong vibrant and internationally recognized financial and banking hub will have to depend on their best minds. As for Malaysia ,the shenanigans can go on as long as natural resources are not depleted ....until then murder ,rampant corruption ,police brutality ,taking cover under religion and "ketuanan" can continue. How these UMNO imbeciles think and react on current issues of concern to Malaysians can be found in the popular comedy court series. These imbeciles can never build a nation,that is as sure as the sunrises ! When you abuse & manipulate GOD with politics you will get Pakistan ,which is where Malaysia is heading. Good luck !

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written by michatan2000, December 27, 2010 23:45:47

To the voters of Sarawak and Sabah,

This is how BN interpret Federal - State relationship. They appoint a State Secretary without informing the Chief Minister. Do you still want BN as the Federal government??? Can you trust them???

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written by KetamPadang, December 27, 2010 22:37:06

Ha.. our leaders here too seem to believe that GOD is DOG and that TU-HAN is HAN-TU. Ya true what is good there is the other way round here.

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written by Mestizo, December 27, 2010 22:23:28

My answers to your questions

Is it because Singapore is run by one party while Malaysia is run by a coalition of 14 parties?
This is not the major factor. But common sense will tell you that it is better to have fewer parties.
Is it because in Singapore capability and integrity are important factors while in Malaysia it is how you suck up to the party leader?
I am sure there are good and bad hats in every country and that also applies to politican parties. The different is that in BN, they keep such people and go to the extend of helping them to cover up. If there are good leaders such as Ong Tee Kiat and Shahrir, they will be left out in the cold. I am sure there some in BN who are good leaders. Unfortunately, their silence is deafening, which means they care about themselves more than what is good for the country.
Is it because Singapore has zero tolerance for corruption while in Malaysia corruption is not just a way of life but a religion with money as God?
Sorry Malaysians also cannot tolerate corruption. Majority of the leaders in Pakatan also cannot tolerate corruption. This is a BN thing so please don't associate that to us.
Is it because in Singapore you are judged by what you are whereas in Malaysia you are judged by who you are and the titles you carry (or have bought)?
No it is just Singapore has Lee Kuan Yew who put the nation above himself and the rest. In the case, of Malaysia, the country has been systematically "rape" by BN leaders especially those from UMNO. Tun Abdul Rahman may have the same passion as Lee Kuan Yew. Unfortunately, he was removed by racist bigots. From then onward, we are moving downhill.
Is it because Singapore is colour-blind whereas in Malaysia priority must be given to Malays and then only if they are Umno members?
I don't think Singaporean government is colour blind but they know the harm it can do to the country if they don't treat their people fairly. In Malaysia, the UMNO leaders just don't get it.
Is it because Singapore is a republic while Malaysia has ten Rulers?
Frankly, good rulers can bring peace, harmony and properity to the country. My opinion, a good ruler is one focus what is good for the country, should be race blind and religion blind and stay above politics. Apart from that once can look at the value they bring to this country versus the cost to maintain them.
Which of the above reasons is the reason why they can do it in Singapore but not in Malaysia?
Majority of the above and more.

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written by Aria, December 27, 2010 22:21:11

Any employer would want the best man or woman for a job. So why don't the rakyat choose the best man for the job? That is because we the rakyat do not have a say as to who gets nominated for running for MP; only the party (UMNO or Pakatan) have that right.

UMNO will never agree anyone other then UMNO rank and file to run for MP. I don'r see Anwar agreeing to this idea either.

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written by onnetline, December 27, 2010 22:19:42

According to the Chief Sec.Sidek, the S'gorr Sooltan will be sucking up to ARMNO's dickheads to support their crooked scheme ! !

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written by a guest, December 27, 2010 22:16:44

Najib sms him to be fully prepared for the election and go all the way. Rais thought it was full erection and go all the way....

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written by syd, December 27, 2010 22:06:07

in the leepublik of cheenapore, you have to be xl to be leader and surname lee. a mat stand no chance as mats only suck circumcised dicks.all their pm's tower over every other asians for psychological reasons.
half of the sportsmen in the leepublik are not born there. cheenaporeans regard their spots team as china team 'b', i.e. rejects from china team 'a' who are given citizenship.
one nation, one singapore is their motto devised by apco three years ago.

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written by betasigma, December 27, 2010 22:05:51

wow,seems like umno be end hav had permutated into a den of not only corrupted thieves,robbers n bandits,but also murderers,rapists n porn-stars!!!

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written by PUF DD, December 27, 2010 22:01:36

Khusrin blow job up the ladder and being reward for being corrupt umno stogie.

This corrupt guy is a disgrace to Selangor, he is appoint to be SS for the sake to sabotaj the PR goverment. Selangor MB must check his land scam activity records,he has to many scam that is an open secret in PTG Sepang.His Shah Alam Section 7 residentials cost millions when he was just an ADO at PTG Sepang.

We rakyat Selangor super curse him to become the SS of Selangor.

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written by budak kampong, December 27, 2010 21:42:56

if we can get away with murder, raping ini kan small matter?

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written by singhkris, December 27, 2010 21:36:37

We all have the most important reason why Singapore is not Malaysia or the other way round. Singapore has a leader like LKY and Malaysia has a leader with Mamathir. I use gthe word "has a leader"by design.

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written by DPG, December 27, 2010 21:16:32

I've often wondered why when UMNO claims it has more than 3 million members, they can't find leaders of calibre to lead the country and take us to greater heights, other than leading us to Zimbabwe land as it is where we are heading now, or to Somali land, whichever comes first. We have Rais Yatim who has to change his mode to speak to you, and who lost the world court decision of ownership of the small island to Singapore. We also have Mooyidden who is Malay first and Malaysian second when Najib says we are Malaysians first. We also have a Minister who purportedly raped an Indonesian maid and a PM who is somehow involved in the Mongolian girl murder, as stated in the SD by P.I. Balasubramaniam. Perhaps some of you out there can continue this listing. Of course, RPK hit the nail on the head. Your leadership quality, education qualifications, are not the main critiria in your upward movement to the top leadership. It's whether you can suck up to the current leaders and play ball with them like how the leaders like to play it, that decideds whether you move up or move down. How or where the country is heading is the least important. But alas the tuan race has been had all these decades and continue to support their tuan party.

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written by HamChak, December 27, 2010 21:06:14

So from Malaysia, then to BolehLand, to BodohLand, to BonKingLand
and NOW; it is DICK-SuckingLand.
Wah Lau Ai, this is No joke, man !

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written by hellosunshine, December 27, 2010 21:04:08

So, Rise Yatim is a minister because he is also a good cock sucker eh? He's now changed mode to a horny dirty old man who's literally caught with his pants down with his Indon maid. Let's see him change mode and wriggle out of this one.

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written by ibabonma, December 27, 2010 20:58:47

In Umno, professionals and graduates are barred from holding office as Divisional Head (Ketua Bahagian). They can become one, once a member becomes an assembly-person or MP and/or Ministers or Asst Ministers. In the while, railway gatekeepers (Port Kelang), School Gardeners and Jagas (Pandan and Ampang) will head the divisions and nobody can bring them down, not even lawyers, doctors, engineers, architects and other professionals. Recently they have passion in retired military majors and captains who knows nothing except guns and bullets.

Soon the qualification to become a Prime Minister, an Umno member must be a murderer or rapist.

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written by Voter get Voters 1, December 27, 2010 20:49:09

I think RPK is conveying us a message that MCLM will effectively screen every potential candidates with a fine tooth comb. MCLM is the head hunter for both BN and PR which if accepted by both parties , then Malaysia will be a 1st World country in no time BUT will PR or BN accept MCLM candidates. Well I can only hope so for PR. MCLM in PR makes a potent force to not only dethrone BN but makes a BETTER Malaysia for ALL Malaysians.
As for BN it is a foregone conclusion and beyond redeemption

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written by nagappan, December 27, 2010 20:25:12

"a rumour is never confirmed until it is official denied. "
RPK, how do you come up with such gems?

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written by pixieface, December 27, 2010 20:13:22

It is because of ketuanan melayu. Be a dungu, as well, two kali lima.
If you are smart, no chance, smart malays membership are rejected.
All started during toony's time, the celup melayu.
Why do you think, tunku, our bapak malaysia, and tun hussein, even in their death beds refused to join
umno baru, toony's party.

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