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MT COLUMNS NO HOLDS BARRED The Malaysian Malay (UPDATED with Chinese And BM Translation)

The Malaysian Malay (UPDATED with Chinese And BM Translation)


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Zul Nordin has made a police report against the PAS Member of Parliament for Shah Alam, Khalid Samad. But Khalid is not alone is his views. Khalid’s views are shared by many other top PAS leaders, Tok Guru Nik Aziz included. Will Zul now also make a police report against Tok Guru?

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

THE MALAYSIAN MALAY

by  Dr Syed Alwi of Singapore

As you know, I am an avid watcher of Malaysian affairs. I must confess that, lately, Malaysia appears to be failing. Not a day passes by without more events that clearly highlight Malaysia's race-religion fault-line. If things keep going this way, I fear for Malaysia's future.

Today, schools in Singapore celebrate Racial Harmony Day. I can visibly see the joy in the children's faces as they wear their ethnic costumes and have fun together at school. But in Malaysia - even the right to choose a religion has become a sensitive, national issue. No doubt, there are many in Malaysia who hate my liberal views on Islam; my family included. But I will say what I must say openly. I have come to the conclusion that Malaysia cannot progress any further without first addressing fundamental questions regarding its identity and soul.

I remember the days when we can laugh at Lat's cartoons on every day Malaysian life. But sadly the Islamic tide has polarised Malaysians.

Some people ask why I should bother about Malaysian affairs since I am a Singaporean. May I remind Malaysians that it was Tan Siew Sin who once said that Singapore and Malaysia are like Siamese Twins. Should Malaysia go down - it would hurt the region tremendously; especially Singapore.

Where do you think Malay apostates would head for if Lina Joy loses her case? Singapore of course! I find the Malaysian Malay to be very under-exposed. For them, it's all Islam and the NEP and everything else under the sun would sort itself out. I am sorry to say this - but Islam and the NEP may be the cause of the doing of the Malaysian Malay.

There is nothing wrong with religion or affirmative action. But, like everything else in life, they must be taken in moderation and with a pinch of salt. A little doubt is good. Unfortunately, in Malaysia, emotions over Islam have overcome reason. What we see today is the result of the NEP and Islamisation policies of the past thirty years or so.

No one owes Malaysian Malays a living. Let me assure you that should Malaysia fail - the Malaysian Malay will suffer enormously. And rightly so. After all, they have been pampered with all sorts of goodies over the years.

They cannot now expect more goodies. Perhaps the day of reckoning for them is near. Whatever it is, Malaysia had better wake up to the realities around her. The globalised world of the 21st century has no NEP to offer the Malaysian Malay. And humans cannot live by religion alone.

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The above ‘letter to the editor’ was e-mailed to me by a dear friend. I did not receive it directly from Dr Syed Alwi. However, knowing the way he writes and knowing his views on the subject, this is clearly Dr Syed Alwi’s ‘trademark’.

I remember, about ten years or so ago, back in 1999 soon after Parti Keadilan Nasional (PKN) was launched, I suggested that the party invite the media representatives to tea at its headquarters for a meet-the-leaders session. Since I suggested the idea I was asked to compile a list of those to invite. The secretariat would make the other arrangements like food and so on.

That was the first time I met another dear friend face-to-face, the late Mr. MGG Pillai. Although I ‘knew’ him from reading his postings in Sang Kancil, his chat group, I had yet been able to sit down to talk to him ‘in the flesh’.

Mr. Pillai made a very valid observation. All the food we had prepared is ‘non-halal’, he said. Well, non-halal from the Hindu or vegetarian point of view. Everything had beef in it, even the vegetables. Since PKN is supposed to be a multi-racial party, why did it not cater for the non-meat eaters as well? Maybe some vegetarian food, or better still, a vegetarian table, so that Hindus or vegetarians could enjoy their food. None of the food being served is suitable for Hindus or vegetarians.

It suddenly dawned on me that Mr. Pillai was right. We invited people of various ethnicities and religious persuasions to our function. Yet we are not sensitive to their dietary requirements. When DAP organises a lunch or dinner, they always make sure that at least a couple of tables would be laid out with halal food. Not only the food was halal, but the caterers were also Muslims to offer that additional comfort to their Muslim guests that the food is absolutely kosher in all ways.

I apologised to Mr. Pillai and agreed that he is absolutely right. I then offered to make arrangements for one of the staff to quickly run down the road to look for a Hindu restaurant and buy some food. We could probably get a ‘halal’ section set up within 30 minutes or so.

Mr. Pillai said that that was not necessary. He was not complaining that he is not able to eat the ‘non-halal’ food that we had laid out for our guests from the media community. He was just bringing to my attention the principle of the whole thing -- in that as a multi-racial party we should be sensitive to and conscious of the needs of all communities.

Mr. Pillai then attacked the buffet table and filled his plate with chicken. So clearly he had no problems with the ‘non-halal’ food and clearly he was not upset about the matter, as I had first imagined, but was speaking merely on point of principle.

The following day, I brought this matter to the attention of the secretariat staff -- invariably who were all Malays and therefore Muslims. I suggested that next time we follow the example of DAP and make sure that we cater at least one table for Hindus and vegetarians -- like DAP normally does for its Muslim guests. Maybe the next time when we send invitations out we should ask the guests to indicate if they need a special diet arrangement so that we know the numbers we need to cater for.

The reply I received was that the food is halal as far as Muslims are concerned and that is all that matters.

Maybe so, I responded, but what is halal for Muslims may not be halal for Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, vegetarians and whatnot. So we need to consider their needs and sensitivities as well.

This is a Muslim country, came back the reply, so they will have to learn how to live with it.

I was stunned and did not know how to respond further. I realised it was futile to prolong this conversation with people who could not look beyond their very narrow selfish minds.

Malays whack the non-Malays for not being ‘sensitive’ to the feelings of Muslims. But does not being sensitive work both ways? Non-Malays are expected to be sensitive to the feeling of the Muslims. But Malays need not be sensitive to the feelings of non-Malays because this is a Muslim country. That is the ‘logic’ put forward.

And what is more frightening is that this is not the view of the minority. Many Malays think like this. But how do we impress upon the Malays that others will be sensitive to your feelings only when you are sensitive to theirs?

And this is why we have people like the Member of Parliament for Kulim, Zul Nordin, acting the way he does. This is because he only thinks of himself and the needs of the Muslims. He does not care a damn about the non-Muslims. To people like Zul Nordin, only Muslims count. Non-Muslims do not matter. Muslims can say what they like about the other religions -- even whack them to kingdom come. But if the people of the other faiths ‘slander’ or ‘insult’ Islam (and ‘slandering’ and ‘insulting’ would be according to how the Muslims perceive it in their minds; even if it is not true), then expect retaliation.

Malays would say, as Muslims, and since Islam is a religion of peace, they would tolerate other religions to co-exist, but only as long as the non-Muslims do not ‘trespass’ into Islam.

This may sound very accommodating to the Muslim mind. This demonstrates tolerance. But why, in the first place, do Muslims even imagine that they have to ‘tolerate’ other religions? Do Muslims not realise that by uttering a statement saying that you tolerate other religions that is already an insult?

Why tolerate? Would not tolerating something means you consider that particular issue as something bothersome? If your neighbour owns a dog and that dog strays into your garden to shit, but since it is your neighbour and you do not wish to make an issue out of it, you tolerate it.

So you tolerate the shit your neighbour’s dog left in your garden for the sake of maintaining a cordial relationship with that neighbour. But to also tolerate your neighbour’s non-Islamic religion means you equate his religion to dog shit.

But Malays will continuously say that Islam tolerates other religions without realising that the very use of the word ‘tolerate’ demonstrates what is in your very narrow and selfish mind.

Zul Nordin has made a police report against the PAS Member of Parliament for Shah Alam, Khalid Samad. But Khalid is not alone is his views. Khalid’s views are shared by many other top PAS leaders, Tok Guru Nik Aziz included. Will Zul now also make a police report against Tok Guru?

Tok Guru has invited about 200 religious leaders of all faiths for a meal and to sit down for what can be considered an inter-faith get-together. I know Zul is against inter-faith dialogues. He led the demonstration outside the Malaysian Bar Council office to oppose inter-faith dialogues. In fact, he gatecrashed the gathering and uttered very threatening and seditious remarks.

Well, Tok Guru has taken steps to improve inter-faith understanding, something Zul is opposed to. Should not Zul now make another police report and organise a demonstration in front of Tok Guru’s venue and gatecrash the event and shout and scream threats at Tok Guru?

Tok Guru is the man Umno labels an extremist, outdated, ‘Taliban’, and whatnot. But Tok Guru has demonstrated more maturity than Zul could ever do in 100 years.

Malays need to reflect on all this. In fact, they need to do a huge load of reflecting. Most times Malays make statements without even thinking. But these statements they make are ‘sincere’, in that this is really the way they think and they are just being ‘honest’ about what is in their mind.

What would the Malays do if we ban the use of the word ‘tolerate’? What if you are no longer permitted to say that ‘Islam tolerates other religions’? How would you now rephrase that statement minus the word ‘tolerate’?

Yes, and with that I will leave you and allow you to ponder on this ‘problem’.

 

Translated into Chinese at: http://ccliew.blogspot.com/2010/01/blog-post_25.html

Translated into BM by Tan KY:

(Dr. Syed Alwi's letter is not translated)
Surat pengarang di atas dikirim untuk saya oleh seorang kawan. Saya tidak menerimanya terus daripada Dr Syed Alwi. Tetapi, daripada cara tulisan beliau dan mengetahui pandangannya secara umum, saya tahu bahawa inilah stail tulisan beliau. 

Saya ingat, kira-kira 10 tahun yang lalu, selepas Parti Keadilan Nasional (PKN) ditubuhkan, saya mencadangkan agar parti tersebut menjemput wakil media untuk minum teh dan bersuai kenal dengan pemimpin di ibu pejabatnya. Oleh kerana itu idea saya, saya ditanggungjawabkan menyediakan senarai tetamu. Selebihnya akan diuruskan oleh jawatankuasa parti, seperti makanan dan sebagainya. 

Itu kali pertama saya bertemu dengan kawan saya, mendiang MGG Pillai. Walaupunn saya kenal beliau daripada tulisannya di laman chatting-nya, Sang Kancil, saya belum pernah bersua muka dengan beliau. 

Encik Pillai memberikan komen yang semua makanan yang disediakan adalah “tidak halal”. Bermaksud, “tidak halal” daripada pandangan seorang Hindu atau pemakan sayur (vegetarian). Segalanya ada daging lembu, termasuklah lauk sayuran. Oleh kerana PKN sepatutnya menjadi sebuah parti berbilang kaum, mengapa makanan yang lebih sesuai tidak dihidangkan? Sebagai contoh, makanan sayuran tanpa daging, atau lebih baik lagi, sebuah meja untuk santapan sayur sahaja, untuk membolehkan tetamu Hindu atau vegetarian menikmati makanan mereka. 

Pandangan beliau membuatkan saya tersentak. Beliau betul. Kami mempelawa tetamu daripada pelbagai kaum tetapi tidak mempedulikan sensitiviti mereka. Apabila parti DAP menganjurkan makan tengah hari atau makan malam, mereka mempastikan bahawa beberapa buah meja hanya menghidangkan makanan yang halal di sisi Islam. Bukan sahaja demikian, tetapi yang menyediakan makanan juga beragama Islam, untuk membolehkan tetamu makan tanpa was-was. 

Saya meminta maaf kepada Encik Pillai dan memberitahu beliau yang beliau memang betul. Saya mencadangkan agar salah seorang pekerja pergi ke restoran Hindu berdekatan untuk membeli makanan dan satu sudut “ halal” boleh disediakan dalam masa 30 minit.  

Encik Pillai berkata itu tidak perlu. Beliau tiada masalah dengan kegagalan kami untuk menyediakan makanan yang bersesuaian. Beliau berkata yang beliau hanya membangkitkan perkara tersebut untuk mengingatkan kami bahawa sebagai sebuah parti berbilang kaum, kami harus lebih sensitif dengan keperluan setiap kaum. Encik Pillai kemudian pergi ke barisan “buffet” dan mengisi pinggannya dengan masakan ayam.  

Hari keesokannya, saya membawa isu ini untuk perhatian ahli jawatankuasa – yang kebetulannya semua Melayu. Saya mencadangkan agar mengikut contoh DAP dan menyediakan lauk “vegetarian” untuk kaum Hindu dan mereka yang tidak makan daging.  Mungkin lain kali apabila kad jemputan dikirimkan, tetamu boleh diminta menyatakan sama ada mereka memerlukan sebarang aturan khas. 

Jawapan mereka, makanan tersebut halal dari sudut pandangan Islam, dan itu sudah cukup. 

Saya jawab, apa yang halal di sisi Islam tidak semestinya halal kepada Hindu, Buddha, Jain, Vegetarian dan sebagainya. Jadi kita perlu mengambil kira keperluan mereka juga. 

Ini negara Islam, kata mereka, dan yang bukan Islam harus memahami perkara ini. 

Saya tergamam seketika. Saya sedar bahawa hanya sia sia untuk meneruskan perbincangan ini dengan golongan yang berfikiran sempit ini. 

Orang Melayu sering memarahi bukan Melayu kerana tidak sensitif kepada perasaan umat Islam. Tetapi, adakah Melayu juga sensitif akan perasaan bukan Islam? Mengikut logik mereka, bukan Melayu perlu sensitif terhadap Melayu, tetapi Melayu tidak perlu sensitif terhadap perasaan bukan Melayu. 

Dan apa yang lebih menakutkan ialah ini bukan pandangan segelintir Melayu. Ramai Melayu yang berfikiran demikian. Bagaimana harus kita membuatkan Melayu sedar yang orang lain hanya akan sensitif terhadap mereka jika mereka turut sensitif terhadap orang lain? 

Ini sebabnya ada yang berperangai seperti ahli parlimen Kulim, Zulkifli Noordin. Beliau hanya berfikir tentang dirinya sendiri dan umat Islam. Yang bukan Islam tidak diendahkannya. Kepada orang seperti Zulkifli, orang bukan Islam tidak penting. Orang Islam boleh berkata sesuka hati mereka tentang agama lain – termasuk mengutuk agama lain. Tetapi jika orang beragama lain “menyindir”,  “menghina”, “memperlekehkan Islam”, walaupun apa yang ditafsirkan sebagai “menghina” atau “memperlekehkan” suatu perkara yang subjektif, orang Islam mahu tindakan tegas diambil. 

Melayu sering berkata, sebagai Islam, dan kerana Islam ialah agama yang cintakan keamanan, mereka bertoleransi terhadap agama lain, selagi yang bukan Islam jangan mengganggu Islam. 

Kepada yang beragama Islam, ini mungkin sifat yang terpuji. Tetapi, tanya diri anda, mengapa yang beragama Islam terpaksa bertoleransi dengan agama lain? Tidakkah mereka sedar bahawa berkata demikian merupakan sesuatu penghinaan terhadap agama lain? 

Mengapa bertoleransi? Bertoleransi bermaksud anda menganggap sesuatu isu itu menimbulkan masalah. Jika jiran anda membela anjing, dan anjingnya membuang tahi di laman anda, tetapi kerana itu jiran anda dan anda tidak mahu bergaduh, anda bertoleransi terhadap isu itu.  

Tetapi Melayu sering berkata yang Islam bertoleransi terhadap agama lain tanpa menyedari itu satu pandangan yang sempit dan jumud. 

Zulkifli Noordin membuat laporan polis terhadap ahli parlimen PAS Shah Alam, Khalid Samad. Tetapi pandangan Khalid bukan pandangan beliau seorang sahaja. Ramai lagi pemimpin PAS termasuk Tok Guru Nik Aziz turut berpendapat demikian. Adakah Zulkifli Noordin juga akan membuat laporan polis terhadap Tok Guru? 

Tok Guru telah menjemput lebit 200 pemimpin agama daripada pelbagai agama untuk makan bersama dalam apa yang boleh disifatkan sebagai sidang antara agama. Saya tahu Zulkifli Noordin menentang sidang antara agama. Beliau terlibat dalam demonstrasi di luar pejabat Majlis Peguam untuk membantah dialog di antara agama. Lebih lagi, beliau merempuh ke dalam perhimpunan itu dan mengeluarkan kata-kata berbentuk ancaman. 

Tok Guru telah mengambil langkah ke arah perbincangan di antara agama, sesuatu yang dibantah Zulkifli Noordin. Adakah Zulkifli Noordin akan membuat laporan polis dan berdemonstrasi di hadapan rumah Tok Guru? 

Tok Guru ialah seorang yang dilabel oleh Umno sebagai ketinggalan zaman, “Taliban”, ekstremis. Tetapi Tok Guru telah mempamerkan jauh lebih kematangan berbanding Zulkifli Noordin. 

Melayu perlu merenungkan fakta ini. Sering kali, Melayu meluahkan kata-kata tanpa berfikir. Adakah apa yang diluahkan selama ini benar benar apa yang dalam fikiran mereka?

Apa yang akan Melayu lakukan jika kita mengharamkan penggunaan perkataan toleransi? Apa yang berlaku jika anda tidak boleh lagi berkata Islam bertoleransi terhadap agama lain?. Bagaimana anda meluahkan ayat tersebut tanpa menggunakan perkataan toleransi? 

Fikir fikirkanlah.

 


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written by R.V3, January 25, 2010 21:27:45
A man came home from work and his children ran to him and called out ‘Ayah! Ayah!’.
His neighbor got very upset and said to him, “Can you please tell your children not to call you ‘Ayah’?”
The man asked, “Why?”
The neighbor retorted, “Because my children call me ’Ayah’ too. They might get confused and mistake you to be their father.”
Then the man told his neighbor, are you not ashamed to say that your children do not know who is their 'Ayah'.
So you are saying by using the word 'Ayah' ,your children will call me ayah too without knowing who is their father?
The neighbour said yes,only my children should use the word 'Ayah'.

The man said, then there is something wrong in what you are teaching your children.They are not sure and do not know who their 'Ayah' is !!
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written by Ben Nordin, January 25, 2010 14:15:46
I'm still surprised that this Zul Nordin is still in PKR. He should have been sacked ages ago after he gatecrashed the inter-faith dialogue. He should join UMNO or is he being paid well by UMNO to create trouble in Pakatan Rakyat?
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written by arazak, January 25, 2010 10:15:36
“The following day, I brought this matter to the attention of the secretariat staff -- invariably who were all Malays and therefore Muslims. I suggested that next time we follow the example of DAP and make sure that we cater at least one table for Hindus and vegetarians -- like DAP normally does for its Muslim guests.

The reply I received was that the food is halal as far as Muslims are concerned and that is all that matters.

Maybe so, I responded, but what is halal for Muslims may not be halal for Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, vegetarians and whatnot. So we need to consider their needs and sensitivities as well.

This is a Muslim country, came back the reply, so they will have to learn how to live with it.”
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Dear Pete,

I am pretty sure, like Zul Nordin, the secretariat staff are former UMNO members. They have been “brainwashed” by BTN during their UMNO days to subscribe to the ideology that the Malay race is superior compared to other races just like what the Nazi did by telling the world that the white Aryans are the superior race. For those Malays like Zul Nordin, it is just like changing into a new set of clothes when they joined Pakatan, but their mentality “upstairs” still remains the same. It will take years for the UMNO Malays (present and former) to change their mindset. The “ketuanan” doctrine has been in their blood stream far too long.

That is also the reason why we have heard about the 2 Malay reporters disguised as Christians humiliated the Catholic Church rituals and dared to publish their story without any shame in their magazine. That is also why we saw a bunch of UMNO Malay crooks without any respect to the Hindus stepped on a cow’s head in front of a government’s office. The burning of the church is another way to show who is “superior”. You better bow to what we said or else we will burn the place where you worship your God!

But then, those UMNO Malays have been led by examples too. We have seen UMNO leaders waving keris and wanting to bathe it with another race blood. We have also heard UMNO leaders shouting, “saya pantang di cabar”, “kaum lain hanya pendatang", etc., etc! Hey, we are superior, so don’t mess with us.

I am Malay. . ., and I am ashamed of what they are doing. But I think the root cause of all these are due to the 52 years of UMNO indoctrination of Malay equal Aryan status amongst other races!

“Saya anak Bangsa Malaysia”!
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written by rpk020608, January 25, 2010 09:45:17
Malays whack the non-Malays for not being ‘sensitive’ to the feelings of Muslims. But does not being sensitive work both ways? Non-Malays are expected to be sensitive to the feeling of the Muslims.

But Malays need not be sensitive to the feelings of non-Malays because this is a Muslim country. That is the ‘logic’ put forward.

The above statement summaries it all.

It is only a one way street in Malaysia ... there is no more give and take culture - anymore in Malaysia due to the ...

1)Our narrow minded leaders (look at how they have been handling critical issues in Malaysia
2)Education systems
3)Quota systems for our universities

Our future is at risk due to the above factors.

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written by NSTPravda, January 25, 2010 09:05:21
The reply I received was that the food is halal as far as Muslims are concerned and that is all that matters... This is a Muslim country, came back the reply, so they will have to learn how to live with it....Do Muslims not realise that by uttering a statement saying that you tolerate other religions that is already an insult?

Now we know how much the Islamic culture and enlightenment has degenerated from its golden age and how Islam has been hijacked by a bunch of hypocrites to feather their own nests and further their own earthly agenda. Fortunately, these people are still being checked culturally, technologically and intellectually by more enlightened forces. Unfortunately, they may well contribute to the destruction of the very instrument they used to suppress their followers to the detriment of all true muslims.
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written by betasigma, January 25, 2010 03:33:48
this mother fcuking barking dog infested with rabbi is a taliban!!
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written by junjun, January 25, 2010 02:45:42
Zul Nordin is a bloody coward thinking that there is no way the minority could retaliate.

The Almighty will one day take the toll on him to retaliate what he did to scare the shit out of helpless minority
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written by Fart Fart Wah, January 25, 2010 01:20:55
The reply I received was that the food is halal as far as Muslims are concerned and that is all that matters."

It is very clear that we have two groups of Malays in Malaysia..one the arrogant UMOOOONO MOOOlayu. This kepala lembu MOOlayu is now causing an upheaval in Malaysia. He has been fed free food, and given everything free right up to easy bank loans even after getting bankrupt. Marry and divorce as he likes, has eyes for actresses and singers...leaves the government to take care of the kids he has produced left right and centre (and the money is from the taxpayers..chinese,inidans and others)..recently the UMOOONO gomen set aside 15million for these cases, It is easy you fck and fck and fck and produce kids..then you dump your wives and let the PIMP UMOOONO to take over ..and the rakyat pays for it. This is the kind MOOlayu Nordin belongs to. He does not see the real problems of the MOOlayus. He sees the taking away of his free frills from UMOONO. When he is called for a function by a non-muslim he asks..SIAPA MASAK??
PINGGAN HALAL KE?? This bastard does not even realize he is carrying pig oil tainted notes in his purse..and he asks this question....They see the minute as a big problem and leave out the huge problem that should be addressed. He must be the product of his fathers fcking around and dumping him for UMOONO to take care of him..so he knows where t go for his free food....I have no problems with the other group of good Malays who fear God and have rallied around Nik Aziz and Khalid Samad...I am proud of Malays who are rational and think clearly taking every citizen in Malaysia as having born and bred here. I hope that these Malays will take over from the current kepala lembus who ride freely on the PIMP UMOONO.
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written by myhhlim, January 25, 2010 01:17:32
I think all Malaysian should readjust their thinking. People should leave apostates alone. everyone is entitled to their personal belief or religion. I remember not too long ago, a young indian man and his Malay girlfriend committed suicide because his mother objected to his changing religion to become a muslim. I am sure his mother is regretful.

I think all Malaysian should stand up against religious bigots who think apostasy is an insult to god. They have the guts to think they know what the almighty wants.
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written by a guest, January 25, 2010 00:36:19
"Most times Malays make statements without even thinking. "

Chinese also do that. Indians do that all the time! He, he.

So, take heart RPK. Nature will take is course.
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written by lakian, January 25, 2010 00:34:05
I think this is Malaysian muslims,fanatic,extremistic,hypocritic.here i didn't mention malays cos it seem religion is everything.Malay ethnicity or ethnogeny is no way to find.Religious fanaticism eroded deeply the amenity,decency and harmony to the others.Fanaticism caused such a self-centred narrow minded charater and despicable intorerate manner.They obsess of such perception that god is nearest so is the most close therefore they are the highest except god!They are doing and statement for the god!so extremism come to live.
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written by Equal, January 25, 2010 00:06:31
To all MT readers. I would like to suggest you print all the articles especially from our beloved RPK
and send them to as many people as you can. Send them to the PM, DPM, Ministers, YBs,heads of government departments and so on. Let them read and gain some knowledge. Start with your own children, your relatives, your friends and so on. God bless Malaysia and RPK.
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written by storm62, January 24, 2010 23:31:39
this taliban of Kulim thought the people of Kulim voted for him......he must be dreaming.......reality was that the people of north and central Malaysia voted AGAINST umno in 308......many people in Kulim shook and lower their heads when ask about their MP.

they are ASHAME to have a taliban MP who create more problems for them than to help the people with their problems.
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written by earthman, January 24, 2010 23:23:10
I notice that we Malaysians always keep on talking about the ideal ways of living together, maybe because we are taught to be 'courteous' and be 'sensitive' to others feelings. Seldom do I see any questions about the root cause. If we keep on telling someone to behave nicely or not to do this do that, will he become one as you would like him to be? Yes if he sees the truth and no if he does not. In the coporate world , any problem must be trace to the root cause and action taken to ractify it and preventive measures implemented. Why would we not do this as is done in the coporate world of manufacturing?

If Malays behave like the way they do now, what is the root cause? Is it UMNO alone or maybe there are other influences? If there is anything that shaped the minds of Malays or anyone, its the religious doctrines ,racist teachings, and propagandas . Foremost is the religious teachings as we are shaped by it from a very young age. Its ingrained in our minds and it drives our perceptions and behaviours. From it other evils or good are born. If our minds are trained to do good from young ,then naturally we would be skill in good deeds and behaviour. We would be loving if we are taught to love. We would be forgiving if we are taught forgiveness. We would be kind and just if we are taught to be kind.

Having said that, we need to search all religious scriptures and teachings for bad , false or evil teachings. We need to amend or delete outright the 'bad' verses. 'We' here means all scholars and 'expert' of all faiths. Any objection or refusal to be submitted to this scrutiny is already a sign of bad influence. Why? Because if one's faith is true and good why would you not 'boast' of it to all others?

As the saying goes, ' a good tree bears good fruits and a bad tree bears bad fruits. And so is our faith. I would not deny that there are atrocities commit by all faith, but this is so because their faith is false. Here we are talking about the written or verbal verses and not the faith or character of a believer. Get it right to the origin in the first place. Not the different interpretations of the teachings.
We can talk about tolerance and respect for each other once we have tackled the root cause. If not we can argue till the cows comes home. Yes , ?
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written by hellosunshine, January 24, 2010 23:20:06
Do not do unto others what you do not want others do unto you - The Golden Rule of all civilizations and faiths. These bigoted 'Muslims' are as strayed as the Taliban and Al Queda. smilies/tongue.gif
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written by malgal, January 24, 2010 22:56:33
the only times we celebrate our diversity - let me see it now, differences - are on tourism billboards or on those expedient occasions when unity slogans need accompanying visuals.

we used to celebrate our richness in difference. now it's mutated to `tolerate'.
it's time we reverse the sentiment.
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written by temanmu, January 24, 2010 22:35:10
The root of the problem lies with TDM institutionalizing religion as official public policy. He was not far-sighted then to foresee the mess it would create down the road.

There is even an international petition on Malaysia with explanations on the "Allah" issue at :
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/allahforchristians/

It was a blessing that Singapore was "kicked out of" Malaysia. Just imagine where it would be if UMNO governed it !!! It is now an oasis for Malaysian "refugees" who escape there .....
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written by durianbesar, January 24, 2010 22:34:12
THe phrase is "common sense should prevail". Zul is a motherfcuker.... and should be thrown under the bus.
WHy tolerate such an idiot... whom I too equate to dog shit. He is all hot air rhetoric. He wants to play sitting on the fence.

SOmeone go and dig out his shit about his past and nonsense... maybe fix him up with a sex video and make a hit bigge than the fcuking chinaman ex- has been Minister of Health Malaysia... what a bunch of shameful crap we have to have each day.
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written by Cobweb76, January 24, 2010 22:27:40
The government is very adept at sowing the the idea of 'do not bite the hand that feeds you' in the minds of Malays. It's ingrained probably as deep as DNA. I'm not really sure how I freed my mind. I guess it started with common sense and just a plain deep gut feeling that something is not quite right in how things should be in this country. I began to feel awkward hearing Malay saying things like the Chinese are taking over the economy and soon Malays will be sidelined. Why shouldn't they succeed as they worked hard and why condemn the fact that they are hard workers? When I have children, I would like them to adopt this hard working culture as I do not wish them to think things fall onto their lap without having to work for it. Also, my religion did not teach me that it is fine to be jealous as long as they are non muslim.
Then I realised the unfairness of how non muslim/ non malays are being treated and again it did not sit in well with me. I did feel at first that it was very disrespectful and ungrateful of me to think that the government have got it wrong somewhere along the line. It wasn't until I was in my late teens that it happened. It was my right and wrong gut instict that took over and from there on my mind was freed.
I hope more and more Malays will go through the same journey as I did, hopefully a lot earlier, as this would be the only way for Malaysia to have a better future.
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written by Rainbowseahorse, January 24, 2010 22:21:55
Haiyah! What most of our UMNO raised Muslims have a very bad case of superiority symdrom.
When they say "tolerate", they mean so long as "others" don't infringed into or to question their "Muslims' Rights" and "Malay Supremacy Rights".

Malayan Malays, raised and brain washed by UMNO, have to be taught the reality that without the other races, they will failed miserably in the present world. Without oil money, UMNO government cannot afford to give out freebies and goodies and they will all be totally useless and hapless.

They must be made to understand and to accept that religion alone does not feed nor cloth them...especially when they have been taught the wrong version of a good religion.
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written by kenny, January 24, 2010 22:09:16
"What would the Malays do if we ban the use of the word ‘tolerate’? What if you are no longer permitted to say that ‘Islam tolerates other religions’? How would you now rephrase that statement minus the word ‘tolerate’?

Yes, and with that I will leave you and allow you to ponder on this ‘problem’."
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Ban 'tolerate'? Brainwashed psychos like Zul say no problemento, sir! -- Umno Islam endures other religions. Umno Islam bears with other religions. Umno Islam stomachs other religions.

And even if Umno swallows all other religions, they would continue with other forms of divide-and-rule amongst fellow muslims themselves.

And with that, Zul Noordin, please go join Umno now!
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written by Awang Kuku, January 24, 2010 22:02:07
About a year ago, I was reading a comment made by a reader of YB Teresa Kok's blog. He/she was commenting on the pictures of 5 roasted pigs displayed in YB's blog. His/her comment, if I can remember correctly, was that YB should be a little sensitive to the Muslim readers. From his/her comment, I figured that he/she was a Chinese. But I was a bit taken aback by barrack of criticisms made against the commenter. It is not just the Malay Muslims, but there are many non-Malays who has not shown any sensitivity towards others. To give credit to YB Teresa Kok, she removed the pictures soon after. Relationship is 2 ways.
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written by temenggong, January 24, 2010 21:34:28
The word to be used is acceptance, not tolerate! And it should be meaningful in practice. For instance, in the area of cuisine, serving of vegetarian alternatives, as well as pork, should be accepted in all establishments including hotels, schools, hospitals, fast food outlets, etc. The vegetarian, the muslim and the chinese pork connoisseurs should not only be able to eat together in the same establishment but at the same table too, each in full acceptance and respectful of each other's dietary choices.

That 'Islam is a religion of peace' should also not be used. That is no defining mark, as which religion is not peaceful (today)?
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written by imanj, January 24, 2010 21:21:03
Same goes for if a non-malay muslim convert,who grew up all their life eating the favourites foods from their upbringing are now expected to adopt malay ways and culture...The religion is thought to be of the race and not a spiritual being that is a concept of faith and not a form of race..

In Malaysia there is no provision to encourage non-muslims to venture into halal catering,as the certificate isn't easily available...So the attitude is convert and just forget your race and be malay...but still not accepted as bumiputra and still don't fall under malay quota priviliges.It is not that,that one seeks,it's the fact that in this country one must acknowledge that non-malays are not respected and there are many people who are oblivious on how life should be lead...

As for the lodging a police report,this atitude has become tiresome.It is so projected that one needs to sought the aid of the police department to handle political parties in house matters...To think that the individuals appointed to the position,whereby they represent the people,have no credible ability to address important issues is unacceptable...

DSAI,it is time to engage in firm excecutive decisions.!

Your next collective meeting should have on your agenda to once and for all get your team to make their decision on where they stand as politicans..Do they represent the people? Do they think for the people? Do they fight for the people? Do they look for positve change for the people? Do they see a better administerd Malaysia in the present and future for the people?

There should be no such thing as police reports amongst each other,it is not the police or courts that we engage to represent us the people of Malaysia to fight our course for a better future for ourselves and that of our children.

A man not happy and sees no hope in his/her position in a party,should then leave amiciably and be more distinguished in their manner to put forth their grieviances.There has been a lot of money spent on so many programmes designed by the western world to run any place of work and yet the typical manner in Malaysia sorry to say,is still so 'kampung and dramatic' is the famous lodge a police report.
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written by rocky, January 24, 2010 21:13:37
need to differentiate between UMNO Malays and Malays. UMNO Malays are brained washed to think they are weak and need UMNO and crutches. UMNO wants this cos their remain relevant. as for people like Zul, he is UMNO Malay, just look at his mentality. if possible, i think he will rather chase all the non muslims out of this country. the Malays need to wake up, they want to be a proud race and respected but that doesn't come on a plate or with NEP or slogans, it means working hard, being matured and being successful.
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written by mob1900, January 24, 2010 21:11:22
AMNO and its paid parrots actively propagate the notion Malays in Singapore are being treated as 2nd-class citizen and it's high time Singaporean Malays stand up and debunk this myth because if Singapore discriminates like Bolehland's ruling junta and favors its chinese majority, it would have failed as a nation long, long time ago. Don't be surprise the island in future might be led by Malay Singaporean, unlike Bolehland where AMNO will keep harping issues on race & religion to maintain its power.

Only knowledge and wisdom will break Bolehland from AMNO's stranglehold.
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written by albert zacharias, January 24, 2010 20:53:10
I remember back in 1970s where my neighbor was a Tok Haji and he used to share my bread when we go jerat burung terkukur in the palm oil plantations without any question if the bread was prepared in a halal fashion.

He goes to perform his Haji very often and takes months for him to come back. Normally he will leave his "Pikat" with me to take care. Very rare do you see this type of Malay now!

What can I say. Their minds and thoughts are poisoned by the politicians.
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written by Davy McChester, January 24, 2010 20:34:11
"But these statements they make are ‘sincere’, in that this is really the way they think and they are just being ‘honest’ about what is in their mind".

Product of BTN and 22 years of Mahathir has produced the typical ketuanan robot,a bigot mindless machine. Most UMNO politicians ,past and present , are responsible for the bogeyman syndrome
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written by Malaysiaputra, January 24, 2010 20:32:00
My observation is that even many so called "educated" Malays have narrow and shallow mind . RPK's observation is spot on.
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written by batsman, January 24, 2010 20:10:54
You are right in that there is a very deep fault line between Malays and non-Malays. The Malays clap and cheer when the non-Malay emigrates. The non-Malay prays for US sanctions and intervention. I too am afraid for Malaysia's future, but one thing is clear - the fault line will only deepen with UMNO in charge.

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