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MCA man says God commands Christians to fight Islamic state


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(Harakahdaily) - Former Subang Jaya state assemblyman, MCA's Lee Hwa Beng, has appealed to Christian sentiments when he suggested on Twitter yesterday that a state based on Islam would ban all other religions.

"As Christians, we should fear Islamic theocracy nation more than anything. Why is DAP helping PAS to achieve it?” questioned Lee in a response to DAP supporters on the micro-blogging site.

Saying religions other than Islam would not be tolerated under what he coined "Islamic Theocracy State" and that Islamic laws would be imposed on non-Muslims, Lee even went on to claim that it was "God's command" to fight an "Islamic Theocracy State".

"One of God's command is to fight against Islamic Theocracy State," he said.

He added that UMNO, unlike PAS, did not want to establish an "Islamic Theocracy State".

Lee however was quick to add a 'disclaimer' stating that his remarks were his personal opinion.

“I never say I am against Islam but cannot accept PAS objective of Islamic Theocracy State. In fact I accept Islam as the official religion."

"Sorry I bring this theocracy topic up. Getting out of hand. I am quitting."

The latest remarks by Lee followed similar comments by MCA president Chua Soi Lek in August, in which he suggested Muslim-majority nations were naturally corrupt in an attempt to urge Malaysians to shun PAS.

Chua also claimed that it was UMNO's competing with PAS over Islam which had caused the country to be trapped as a “middle income” nation for more than 10 years.

The comments drew strong reactions from both side of the political divide, and had left the one time Health minister blaming online portals Malaysiakini and The Malaysian Insider for 'misquoting' him.

 


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written by Democrats, November 09, 2010 18:53:03
Hwa Beng, Just ask any Kelantanese christians or bhuddist or Hindu how PAS have treated them although it is one of the most islamic state. Go and ask christians, bhuddist or Hindus at shah alam who they are treated.... then you get the real picture.
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written by Rozlan, November 09, 2010 14:46:59
Ala .lakonan aje.Kita semua tau BN with their lies.UMNO,MCA,MIC try to look like they are championing their own races and fight each others.But behind us they patted each other backs and yam seng together.Laughing at those who believes them blindly..

Old tactic
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written by mikemui, November 09, 2010 14:38:18
Anyone over here knows this BLOODY STUPID MORON so called "christian" from MCA? He thinks he's BLOODY "smart" but actual facts he knows NUTS about the Bible and Christian faith, and also the Quran and Muslim's faith too!
He is the real DEVIL who wants Christians and Muslims in Malaysia to fight each other!
If he is the REAL CHRISTIAN, he should get out of MCA because MCA's leader is a super pornstar, and out of BN/UMNO because they are the ones approved gambling, prostitution, corruption, swindling of nation's money etc.
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written by batsman, November 09, 2010 11:41:06
MCA now claiming to be God's spokesman. But only the Devil will provoke a fight between Christians and Muslims.
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written by sedan, November 09, 2010 11:31:24
Probably, it is Lee Hwa Beng's God of Prosperity, not the Christian Divinity. Anyway, the God of prosperity is preached at many "Christian" churches today. Pay 10pc of your salary as tithes and money just pours out from heaven. Pastors are now incarnated feng shui masters who can see "visions" for prosperity.

Since Lee has made his stance as a Christian, may I ask him the following biblical-related questions.

1) In the Book of Jeremiah, God commanded the Israelites to surrender to the cruel Babylonians, promising them that no matter what they heard, the Israelite lives would be spared.

2) In the Book of Daniel, Daniel remained true to his Babylonian King despite the latter having thrown him into a dungeon full of lions.

3) Daniel's three friends did the same despite getting the short-shrift and a fiery pit.

4) Christ never preached politics though the Romans of the day were much more restrictive (not to mention outright cruel) than the Islamists in this country ever did.

5) Christ was more concerned with the religious hypocrisies of the day, one that raped God's message from the beginning. External threats? How many times did God come to the aid of the ancient Israelites when they were faced with an overwhelming army.

Is this the 11th Commandment, Lee Hwa Beng? Because, I think it rather should be "Thou shall not mingle with triads, criminal syndicates and other Chinese underground elements."





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written by justice seeker, November 09, 2010 11:11:04
MCA man says God commands Christians to fight Islamic state

YOU MEAN YOUR "CHOI SAN" THE GOD OF MONEY???
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written by BobSam, November 09, 2010 10:28:23
OFF TOPIC:
Just curious. If I were travelling in my car and am stopped at a road block in Selangor or Sarawak would I get into trouble because I had some Cha Siew Fun, and some Siew Yoke rice with me.

If a school kid, (Primary School right) can get TEN (i repeat 10) strokes of the rotan or ruler on his palm, what will an adult's punishment be?

Please listen to our PM, he is asking us to go back to basics. Become 1 Malaysia. The mind set of some people per the recent Deepavali advertisement is that people of certain religions cannot eat in the home of their relatives who are of a different religion. The mind set has to change, and it can only be changed ir we start building bridges of friendship with our neighbors.

I think at the moment, the easiest way is to use sports events as the channel to build friendship. 2moro nite, Man Ure will be playing the Citizens, in the local derby. If u r a fan of Man Ure, have a football party.
if you are not a fan of Man Ure, then have a anti-Man Ure football party at your home. Enough Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea, Arsenal fans will be around to help make your party a success.

Long live the Citizens, long live the RAKYAT! Need man ure for the plants. Want them to bloom, pretty mah!

I still remember fondly when SuperMokh scored the goal against Man Ure. It shocked them, until they had to put 2 players to mark him out of the match. But he still troubled Man Ure.
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written by Pegasus, November 09, 2010 09:44:43
ameno has mistreating the christian far more worst than PAS! Don't allowed construction of Shah Alam Divine of Mercy church for more than 20 years! Don't give enough place of worship! What is heck is mca moron is talking about ? If i ever see him...probably i will give him a piece of my thoughts the realities of being under ameno is far worse than PAS!
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written by imanj, November 09, 2010 08:51:59
If GOD THE ALMIGHTY had anything to command of HIS people ( that being every walking human being) it would be just one thing...

" Don't speak on behalf of ME if what comes out of your brainless minds is pure crap "...GOD 9th NOV '10

That would anyone of any race and religion...!!!
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written by antares, November 09, 2010 05:35:24
Is this Lee Hwa Beng telling jokes to himself? Just in case that Lee Hwa Beng and the rest of MCA's goons including that Chop Suey Lick suffering of demonic umenoism lapdog syndrome, we might as well quote the label (to jostle up the MCA's thick skull) on the Malaysian Chinese – does these words "pendatang" and "prostitutes" means anything.

Likewise here is an equivalent reciprocal joke for this MCA’s Lee Hwa Beng goon - "If the umenoputra and Pekosa goons have the freedom of choice, they would dearly happily prepare the tonkang for you! How does that sound to your ears A*****e?" Lee Hwa Beng China MCA bodoh sombong atau sengaja nak cari naas kena cili api!
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written by malaysianforever, November 09, 2010 05:16:39
Do not use Christians against Islam. Lee is higholy irresponsible.
Christians are peace loving people and want tolive peacefuloly among the Muslims.
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written by onnetline, November 09, 2010 01:01:42
Lee Hwa Beng,
What do slave dogs like you and your greedy corrupted kind in MCA really knows about what good, right or proper ? ?
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written by fireduck, November 09, 2010 00:29:17
"One of God's command is to fight against Islamic Theocracy State," he said.


Ah Beng, they are recruiting people like you in Israel .... you can have a fun time there with Hamas, etc. Why stay here and not go where your God's command can be carried out?
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written by SiHangChai, November 09, 2010 00:17:03
Lee is a true Christian. True, Jesus exists before Islam, and Christians opposed a fanatic Islamic state. Many valid reasons were given for such opposition. Islam today have been swayed away far from the true teaching of Islam. In fact, UMNO, PAS, Perkasa have been using it to gain political mileage for certain interest. Nevertheless, Lee should keep his mouth shut instead of supporting the Soiled Leg. Let Islam it be, and let the Moslem to solve their own problem. Lee should not interfere and making remarks.
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written by Atheist, November 09, 2010 00:17:00
Well ..... Najib is right ...we need the Chinese ... not for progress but to start a Civil war and get themselves 'parang-ed'. This China man is using Christianity to fight the Government because any action taken by BN will be seen as anti-Christian and anti-US. This is how the chicken Chinese instigates the innocent to pick a fight with Goliath / US. Well we have solutions for that ..... ISA !!!! smilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gifsmilies/angry.gif
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written by panca, November 08, 2010 23:35:08
Lynn, hwa beng just came out of psychiatrist ward, missed his medical session. He is hearing voices at night but actually it is CSL's voice asking him to get laid!

As dumb and dumber he can be in MCA as what amoOnos' goons.

I say go vote for PAS, do the maths 60 plus seats of PAS over 222 seats are just one partner of Pakatan Rakyat of the fraction that they share a balanced of power.

Hwa Beng is really has a head problem, which head again.....go ask CSL, he is one fcuking Man Cheating Arsehole who got the rest of the members under his dick!
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written by Mestizo, November 08, 2010 23:22:47
This country will be more peaceful if we have fewer people like this IDIOT and RACIST. Regardless of their race, anyone who go public with such racist statement like Lee Hwa Beng should be immediately charged for causing disharmony in this country.

MCA, Gerakan, MIC and various other political parties have been supporting UMNO in their racist policies and actions for over half a century. They kept quiet for their own personal benefit when UMNO move away from meritocracy and focus on racist policies and actions. We are aware there are some PAS leaders who were and still are extreme but let us deal with them. Right now, if we have to choose between a bunch of monkeys over those politicians from BN, I will choose the monkeys. Having DAP and PAS is a million times better than monkeys and probably a billion times better than BN.

We don't have to look far, we need to learn from Lee Kuan Yew. He has delivered and he has built a nation from nothing and they are now miles ahead of us. Why? Because they were serious of fighting corruption and racism unlike our politicians who only talk and talk. And...they promote meritocracy, which over here we did the opposite. There is no other choice. These politicians from BN apart from knowing how to frighten the people and blaming everything else on the opposition, did more damage to this country and building it. Enough is enough. We want to put our votes to good use this time.
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written by rocky, November 08, 2010 23:06:52
hwabeng said is wrong. still a politician who trying to cause trouble for DAP but it backfired. he is not a violent man, likely spur of the moment thing. But where was MCA when Dr.M delcared Msia islamic state. where was MCA when the constitutions was amended and rights of non muslims was taken away? and PAS and UMNO, who is extreme...UMNO la. UMNO is far worse cos they are hypocrites, just see how Allah issue handled by UMNO and PAS.
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written by lynn, November 08, 2010 22:35:32
PAS will never win 2/3rd majority in Parliament so cut the bloody crap. So, Ah Beng, you are a Christian huh? And you are using religion to scare off the non-Malay supporters of PAS. I hate bastards like you, using religion as a political tool. God commands Christians? You mudderfcuker xtian has got an incurable mental disease - God spoke to you, right? God "commands' you right? You hearing things at night? Voices? You are mentally ill! You are like those xtians I met at Assembly something, crying & sobbing uncontrollably, banging their heads on the wall, wailing, flinging their arms about, one mad xtian even removed her clothes & her fellow xtians had to stop her before she stripped stark naked. Yeh, i was there, and from that day on, religion freaked me out completely. SICKOS.
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written by nanyangren, November 08, 2010 22:33:50
Lee cock head - dont talk like an ultra bearded muslim who talks as if he own the quran.

Show us where in the Bible that God command the Christian to fight muslims and we would like to see your interpretation. Dont make your own judgement for the Lord said revenge is his.
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written by syd, November 08, 2010 21:58:38
what ever happened to "thou shalt not kill"?
In fact, it is also written in the koran that it is forbidden to kill another soul, except for just reasons. But believers are suppose to confront injustice and evil.
PAS malay MP's are some of the most educated you can find in malaysia. Dr Dzul is a good example, the MP for kuala selangor. Compare this guy to say, zahid hamidi, the present no2 defence minister, or nazri, and you know what I am talking about.
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written by youngbags, November 08, 2010 21:48:08
nothing to say better just shut up
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written by temenggong, November 08, 2010 21:45:56
I's been a long time we had a religious war... thank you. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Nixcloud, November 08, 2010 21:42:39
eih ah beng, if you believe in the bible like u claim, when it was written, islam was non-existent...

and i rather have tok guru and gang than your big "double sausage" lips and the government of corruption and greed.

stop dragging God into your personal agenda... kurang ajar!!!
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written by jayenjr, November 08, 2010 21:34:03


Hwa Beng

I should have stuck your photo above. You get the idea.

How stupid can you get? Or do you expect us be even more stupider than you, expecting us to buy your theology ? From who's behind did you pull out this explanation - that God commands Christian to fight an Islam theocratic state?

Chua Soi Lek's Labis flower behind?

Who is sending Muslim chaps to the Orang Asli, Sabah, Sarawak native women folk, charming them, marrying them, converting them to Islam, and then dumping them after that? The women folk, having converted, cannot return to their original religion?

Who forced Revathi to stay in a "Faith Rehabilitation Centers" when she didn't want to remain a Muslim? Your mother, is it??!!!

Who gives benefit to the Muslim orang asli by building them brick houses; whilst the non-muslim orang asli has to remain in wood huts, right next door to his Muslim Orang Asli brother?

Who has held up Bibles and banned Allah?

Who swore in a mosque that he "never met that girl", but is afraid to stand and face a public enquiry re: his possible role in the Mongolian Murder Mystery?

Who threatened civilians with severed cow heads?

Who damaged Indian temples?

Who caned the student for bringing non-halal food to school?

Are you so intoxicated by glue sniffing the smell emanating from Chua's behind - what is it? Some kind of spaced out effect on your brains - cheaper than LSD is it?

Time and again you MCA butt smelling jokers keep proving that you guys are clear running dogs to UMNO.
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written by albert zacharias, November 08, 2010 21:20:30
Dear Wah! Beng....

Please quote me where the bible says so, otherwise I call you a liar.

Please don't get Pastor Chew Weng Chee into problems lah... Don't bother to come to church SIB Sunday and get all of us innocent Christians into problem...Just sit at home and have a good fark....

I know for a fact... what is Caesar give it to him ... what is God's give him... You want both... what a fark you are!

Fark off Wah Beng...wah wah wah... cry like a baby..... If I see you alone, I will give you a nice kiss on your acne cheeks...
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written by Concerned_Citizen, November 08, 2010 20:59:29
The latest remarks by Lee followed similar comments by MCA president Chua Soi Lek in August, in which he suggested Muslim-majority nations were naturally corrupt in an attempt to urge Malaysians to shun PAS.


Soil Lick , Soil Lick, doesn't UMNo is a muslim-majority party, indeed only Malay can join it. What say you about this? Pas more corrupted or UMNO? PAS doesn't run the federal government, it doesn't have access to the country resources. UMNo on the other hand, run the country, it can spend money like no tomorrow. Are you suggesting that UMNO is already corrupted with billions lost and if PAS take over, the situation will even be worse?

Soil Lick only think about the girl that he licked last time or perhaps still playing in his imagination. By the way, his interpretation is free sex is not corruptions.
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written by asiana888, November 08, 2010 20:32:27
Aiyah! Don;t give this Ah Beng too much credit la. He is trying to make a political comeback ....

He becoming a Christian is to try to repent for his un-uterrable ways when he was Adun for Subang Jaya. He is not an authority or spokeperson for the Christians in Malaysia that will uphold righteousness, fairness and integrity of a caring government. We hope to have that come GE13!
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written by alacarte, November 08, 2010 20:32:27
Ai Yoh, Hwa Beng, since when did God command Christians to fight Islam theocracy State, any prove? How come so many of my Christian friends didn't tell me about this?
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written by Buayanegara, November 08, 2010 19:00:28
Hei U " anak perumpuan sundal" berani kau mencaci Agama Suci Islam.
Fcuking brainless chinaman stop fanning religious sentimen !!
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written by hellosunshine, November 08, 2010 18:53:25
"One of God's command is to fight against Islamic Theocracy State," he said.
Ah Beng, from which horse's mouth did you hear this commandment or did you poke your head into the horse's arse to hear it? smilies/cheesy.gifsmilies/grin.gif
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written by Revolution, November 08, 2010 18:31:54
Chua Soi Lek is sure more embarrassed than with the video .... Good move , AH BENG !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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written by educationist, November 08, 2010 18:29:05
Where was this chap when that uncrowned king, ex dictator declared our nation an Islamic state??

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