Who says so?

They distort everything and give people the impression that Islam is such a stupid religion. If they say something and say that this is their personal opinion it would not be so bad. But when they say that this is what Islam asks us to do then they make Islam look really stupid. Then we get upset when people make fun of or ridicule Islam.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin

All sermon readers must pray for wellbeing of Agong, rulers and people

All khatib or sermon readers in the country have been told to pray for the wellbeing of the Yang di-Pertuan Agong, the rulers and people in the “doa” after the Friday sermons.

Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom said, the action of a khatib in Penang of replacing Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin’s name with Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng’s in the “doa khutbah” was therefore inappropriate.

“Let’s not take advantage of that (sermon) by praying for other than the respective rulers or sultans and Muslims as stipulated,” he told reporters at a Tabung Haji breaking-of-fast function, here, tonight.

“If all the ‘tok imam’ want to pray for the local leaders, confusion will arise among Muslims when the mosque is supposed to be a place for unifying the Muslim community.”

Jamil Khir was commenting on the controversial use of Lim’s name, replacing the King’s, after Friday sermons at some mosques in Penang recently.

He said it was not wrong to pray for a particular person so as to receive divine blessings but not through the Friday sermons.

“We should understand the long-standing ruling, and no one will get angry if you want to go home and pray for someone. It’s up to you.”

He urged all khatib in the country to preserve harmony and be mindful of the sensitivities of the local community who belong to different political parties and have different ideologies and beliefs, when delivering the sermons. – Bernama

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Jamil Khir: Nurul Izzah has sinned by tarnishing country's image

Those who tarnish their country's image with the aim of causing turmoil are regarded to have sinned, says Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom.

"We should love our country and be prepared to defend it, as defending our own country is a 'jihad' (holy war) which carries a big divine reward. Hence, if the reward is big (for such a 'jihad'), it is also a big sin for one to tarnish one's own country's image and honour to cause upheaval in the country," he told reporters after handing over Raya contribution from the Federal Territory Islamic Religious Council (MAIWP) for patients and certain hospitals in the Klang Valley, today.

He was earlier asked to comment on media reports that Lembah Pantai member of parliament Nurul Izzah Anwar had allegedly said things that had tarnished the country's image and reputation in an interview with an Indonesian newspaper recently.

She was alleged to have made inaccurate statements about the New Economic Policy and had belittled the capability of the country's submarines. – Bernama

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The Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department, Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom, appears to be much in the news nowadays. Unfortunately, in both instances as reported by Bernama above, Jamil Khir is wrong on both counts.

Before that, allow me to digress a bit and take you back to a time about 20 years or so ago when I made one of my pilgrimages to Mekah (I think I probably made about ten or so trips in all).

About a dozen or so friends were at the house to send me off, as is customary for Malays who are about to make the pilgrimage. All these friends have not yet made the pilgrimage and it is believed that if we were to mention their names and ‘summon’ them while on Mount Arafah (Jable Rehmat) then God would bless them with a pilgrimage.

I asked these friends for their full names and reminded them to also list down their identity cards numbers. After all, I said, with one billion Muslims and hundreds of thousands having the same name (such as Muhammad Abdullah) we must ensure that God knows exactly who I am praying for. So the identity card numbers against their names will guarantee that God would know exactly who I am ‘summoning’ to Mekah.

To my amusement they did just that. They wrote down all their names with their identity cards numbers and gave me the list. They of course did not realise I was just pulling their legs.

If God is who we say He is then we really do not need to list down their names with birth certificate numbers and identity cards numbers. God will not get confused and will know whom we are praying for. Need I also carry their photographs in my pocket to ensure that my prayers do not get diverted to the wrong person?

Now, on the matter raised by Minister Jamil Khir, it is not compulsory for the imam to mention the Agong’s, Sultan’s, Prime Minister’s, etc., names in the Friday prayer sermons (kutbah). There is nothing in the Quran that says this is compulsory. You can do so if you wish. But it is no sin if you do not do so and neither does it violate Islam.

The way the Minister is talking, however, is as if this is the law (Islamic law) and the Minister’s statement is probably going to confuse not only the non-Muslims but the Muslims as well. The Minister is either ignorant of Islam -- as most Umno Ministers are -- or else he is trying to mislead the people.

If the imam were to just pray, “Oh Lord, please bless all our leaders and guide them to the right path and open their hearts so that they steer clear of sin and injustice and rule this country with justice and fairness…..etc.,” that is good enough.

Are we adding to what even the Prophet Muhammad himself did? In the Prophet’s last sermon in Arafah just before he died, this is what the Prophet said:

“All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action.

Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not, therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O ALLAH, that I have conveyed your message to your people."

Did the Prophet pray for anyone specifically or mention anyone by name? Were the names of kings, emperors, rulers or leaders mentioned in the Prophet’s sermon?

What the Prophet did say, however, is that Islam forbids Ketuanan Melayu because all mankind comes from Adam and Eve and no race has superiority over others. Why are the imams not emulating the Prophet by including this in their Friday sermons?

The Prophet also said, “Remember, one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds. So beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.” Why are the imams not including this in their Friday sermons?

Instead of praying for the rulers/leaders, like what the government has decreed, the imams should remind them, like what the Prophet did, to “not stray from the path of righteousness”, and to remind them, like what the Prophet did, that “one day you will appear before ALLAH and answer your deeds.”

It is perplexing that Malays foam at the mouth to ‘uphold the dignity of the Prophet’s name’ but they refuse to follow the simple instructions that the Prophet gave them.

“All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those to others again…,” said the Prophet. But the imams are not doing this so I shall have to do it.

Okay, now to the next news item from Bernama about what Jamil Khir said, “Nurul Izzah has sinned by tarnishing the country's image.”

Again, either Jamil Khir is ignorant about Islam or he is trying to mislead the people. Islam says that ‘amar makruf, nahi munkar’ is compulsory. So, if the country allows or perpetuates misdeeds, transgressions, injustice, corruption, persecution, racism, abuse of power, mismanagement of the taxpayers’ money, and so on, then it is our Islamic duty to speak out against it. In fact, speaking out alone is not good enough as far as Islam is concerned. We must oppose it not only with our mouth but also with our hands, says Islam -- in short, with force.

So what is this Jamil Khir talking about? Nurul Izzah has not sinned, as he says, for exposing the wrongdoings of the government. In fact, it is the opposite. Nurul Izzah would have sinned if she keeps silent. By speaking out, this means Nurul Izzah is a perfect Muslim, not a sinner.

Aiyah, sometimes I wonder where these people gained their religious knowledge from. They distort everything and give people the impression that Islam is such a stupid religion. If they say something and say that this is their personal opinion it would not be so bad. But when they say that this is what Islam asks us to do then they make Islam look really stupid. Then we get upset when people make fun of or ridicule Islam.

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written by gentek003, August 30, 2010 15:27:36

I'd say to the politicians. Enough distorting the meaning of Islam lah. You are just making people confuse with and stop politicize the religion. People like you are the ones who let people misunderstood the meaning of Islam and insult it.

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written by edmundkang, August 30, 2010 00:10:20

All the past actions by some stupid people has tarnished Islam. I believe many non-Muslim like me does not have good impression of Islam. But I think it is good that in MT, RPK has enlightening us. At least I am seeing the merit of Islam here. Never has I been this receptive to Islam teaching. I hope you will share more with us so we understand better.

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written by JIVJAGO, August 29, 2010 14:10:39

Hypocrisy and quarrel will predominate during these present age and all wise men of a known sanatana dharma acknowledges these.

Legitimate system of linking mankind with the supreme god will gradually fade away and replaced with the bogus man made religion.

All these information is well documented and readily available for the one who is unselfish and sincere to seek the truth to relink with the Lord.

Be open-minded and get the facts right by using your given senses,intelligence and mind.Do not limit yourself with the so called myth/stories foretold by someone some ages ago.

Even at present time there are so many distortion from the actual fact depending on which side of the fence that you belong or which part of the story that you want to believe.

Ask your self these the world has been in existence since billions of years and religion is only 1000 to 2000 years old.....what is the oldest religion in the world.....

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written by PUF DD, August 29, 2010 03:26:29

whenever i atend friday prayers, during the idris name is mention,i turn my palm towards ground but when Tg.Amir, i will rise my hand high.

Idris betray the almarhum wishes and deny his family rights and kerabat rights. Is an open secret to the kerabats,

Daulat Tuanku Amir.x3

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written by Motherchell, August 28, 2010 03:06:01

Other than my dear Azly. Bakri, Farish ,Zaid, Tok Guru etc who speak the truth and the renaissance , none of the others really care about the destruction of the Nation thro' minions in Power who still think the sun rises in the East. What baffles me are ones like Raja Nazrin who should care to clear the air as the buck for religion stops at this feet!!

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written by Ocassey, August 28, 2010 00:14:09

The Quandong people always say, " Sek Siu-Siu , Pan Toi Piu !" ( Know just a little and pose as a representative ) !!!!

Surely most of these so-called "experts" "qualified" in such fields are really hypocrites as they portray to be representatives of the Almighty and they are unquestionable ! They pretend to quote in the Arabic lingo to stunt you and then translate their babblings (after twisting the real meanings) into pure simple BM/BI for you to feel guilty and breathless ! If you argue with them further , they will "throw" the book at you and shout "BLASPHEMY ! " Basically every one of them, however learned they may be , is just a HUMAN BEING underneath some specially accepted designed garments !

Ordinary Buddhist pay respect to the yellow robe and not the wearer who has gone through years of elaborate teachings to become a qualified monk ! Being human , one may be subjected to one or more of all the known vices ! Whether that happens or not , ONLY TIME WILL TELL !

So abhor from using Blasphemy to crucify thy enemies for that will be a CARDINAL SIN !!!

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written by capricorn, August 28, 2010 00:11:35

Suddenly alot of the UMNO ministers have become experts in Islam, saying that this and that is against Islam, that this and that is a sin. Islam is a beautiful religion but it is these so called experts that are the sinners of Islam and they shall be judged by their actions. For these so called experts are using Islam to further their ill intentions.

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written by Rozlan, August 27, 2010 20:14:16

Jamil Khir said Nurul Izzah had sinned.Hmmm.What about him who defended all type of corruptions by UMNO.Nurul Izzah wa scritizing all those things.Those who had put Malaysia to shame wer enon other than UMNO.The worl are ridiculing our corrupt legal systems.They dont understand why UMNO was so interested in pursuing cases that have no evidences,ISA and so many other things

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written by journeyman, August 27, 2010 18:35:44

"But my views has always been how is it that the writers of the Koran can produce whole speeches by Mohammad,pbuh, every word of it? And the Koran was written 30 years after the death of Mohammad, pbuh. In other words, even his close followers have long died."

you have three options.

one, get help from a respectable muslim (as a guide, try hard not to get help from an umno member/supporter) as to who to talk to, to get yourself enlightened with true islam and how the quran was revealed, collected, reproduced etc. and how exhaustive it was to reproduce and recognise a bona-fide tradition/sayings of the prophet. relying on wikipedia and general googling means you still wank while looking at kate jackson's poster.

two, keep on wanking (read: relying on unsubstantiated writings).

three, take a number and queue behind fft, ffw (now, this is new, isn't it?). when called, drop your soiled pants.

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written by alacarte, August 27, 2010 18:08:11

UMNOputras are the main culprits who made Islam look extremely restrictive, Their motive is to garner more Malays votes so that they can continue to loot the country, they think this strategy might work because lots of Malays think Islam belong exclusively only to the Malays, much like the 'BUMIPUTRA RIGHTS' they have under the present Gomen. What better way to steer the Malays to support them by creating fear and siege mentality to the Malays?

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written by sioponthan, August 27, 2010 14:34:07

Zakaria himself admitted that he was wrong in terms of how to pray and place, and Nurul Izzah has exposed the weaknesses(should be privacy) of our country that other countries will never do things like that.

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written by DPG, August 27, 2010 13:45:46

Islamists will only quote that part of the Koran which will reinforce their arguments or views. Other parts of the Koran which goes against their argument, they will just ignore or remain silent. But my views has always been how is it that the writers of the Koran can produce whole speeches by Mohammad,pbuh, every word of it? And the Koran was written 30 years after the death of Mohammad, pbuh. In other words, even his close followers have long died.

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written by Devoe, August 27, 2010 11:30:06

Beware of those self proclaimed Muslims but never practiced to be it.

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written by popuri, August 27, 2010 11:17:30

The problem is not Islam, its a portion of mislead and misguided Muslims.

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written by IbnAbdHalim, August 27, 2010 11:07:53

Hello Jamil, since when have you been elevated to play god? If Nurul Izzah sinned, then which part of Hell will Jamil Khir placed her?

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written by Rozlan, August 27, 2010 07:24:21

Dear Pete,

If a muslim scholar befriended UMNO,instead of getting more religious and knowledgeable he become worse adn dumber.UMNO is a curse to the muslim masses and Islam.A muslim shouldnt go near it to prevent get infected..

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written by Malaysian Abroad, August 27, 2010 05:43:32

Bad people do evil things. But only religion and ideology make good people do evil things

-6

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written by Singa, August 27, 2010 02:38:40

Humans made God so they can insult Him.
There is no God ! Your conscience is your God, stupid people!!
Believe in Science and Richard Dawkins !

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written by Fart Fart Wah, August 27, 2010 01:24:01

I do not understand Islam. When kafirs pray for the well being of non-kafirs it is not aknowledged or even appreciated. The kafirs pray that the country will remain peaceful, tolerant for one another , pray for its leaders their wisdom for running (not ruining) the country well and for their well being. In fact the kafir Catholic Church prays loudly every Sunday during Mass for the non-kafirs that the non-kafirs will be blessed by God. Now the non-kafirs say ..OH NO!! you cannot pray for the kafirs unless you pray that they convert to being a non-kafir. This kind of reasoning is from the sewer. I for one cannot accept the fact that I read in the blog where one non-kafir wrote that when you mati and go up there the Angel will ask you..Hey you what religion ah??Now in my mind he is assuming that there is a non kafir heaven and another place for kafirs. In fact I can conclude that Allah himself is a non kafir.. a Muslim from the way the writing is done. So I like to ask a few questions. Please tell me how to answer my kafir friends.
When there is tsunami, earthquake, natural disaster and what not..in a non-kafir land all the kafirs ( christains, and what not rush in and pour millions of dollars and donations and food and what not to help the non-kafirs. In fact I also know that many non kafirs depend on their daily living from kafirs. And many kafirs do not hesitate to help a non-kafir. Many donate blood too to save a non-kafir's life. and so on and so on..I don't have to ramble. also in big big hotels.( I hope it is halal and not hal-hell) Now when the kafir kicks the bucket and he goes up there and he is suddenly in front of this Angel ( if there is one to ask this question) Woi!! you what religion ah?? And he says I am a Christian and another one says I am a Buddihist and so on and so on..And this Angel says it sounds gross. I would like to ask the non kafir Angel or Allah(praise be his name) how come man?? All my life my friends here and I have been helping out your non-kafir fellows..you mean I cannot go in for a drink also ah?? And to be really serious in this issue if this is as our UMNO MOOOOOftis make it out to be...I do not want to know Allah( praise be his name) for what these people are teaching is completely a different Allah that I know off...they are making a mockery of Allah's(praise be his name again) justice and compassion and love for his creatures. So you see I am a kafir and I like to remain one until all this wrong teaching is thrown out of UMNO's Mooftis and Ulamas..
And as for this hal-hell thing they are doing well there is an Angel waiting to ask..Woi! wrong place!!!..turn left and go down another 1000 steps...!!!! you will meet a guy called Hal-Hell.!!!!!!!.

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written by Davy McChester, August 27, 2010 00:16:27

UMNO clowns are hypocrites conspiring to destabilise the State Govt of Penang by their ultimate weapon ,when everything else fails ,RELIGION.

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written by cheekhiaw, August 26, 2010 22:42:17

The gods actually listen to 'prayers' of idiots from the dark ages?

What's too stupid to be spoken is often sung - Voltaire

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written by temanmu, August 26, 2010 22:35:57

UMNO is afraid that Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng preaches ‘amar makruf, nahi munkar’ and actually practices it and Nurul Izzah doesn't preach it but still practices it !

UMNO only knows to foam at the mouth!

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written by nanakassim, August 26, 2010 22:22:25

asiana888, the khutbah is destined to go high tech under these malays. Soon, they will distribute the khutbah in CDs. Next, you can read it on YouTube.

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written by Oscar Winner, August 26, 2010 22:18:14

Dear pete,
I love the way you whack those pretentious UMNO muslims. I always wonder what their own religion is which is so different from what I have read about in all your postings. Like you once said, many are not well-versed in Arabic, so they interpret quran the way they like it. When you quote from the quran in English, it’s so obvious that islam is a beautiful religion. I have never heard any UMNO minister quote any verse to explain to the people the way you do, and explain so as to justify their actions. Just like what they often say “it’s in or against the constitution” but will not explain fully what is stipulated in the constitution. It's so obvious what they want to fool the ignorant

Come to think of it, is UMNO afraid the malays will master English language and read the quran written in English??

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written by onnetline, August 26, 2010 21:56:31

Jamill Khir Barharom,
Your are greatly mistaken.
Nurul Izzah is not bad mouthing the country but just the UMNOs racist and corrupted shitheads ...... seen plentiful around in Malaysia.

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written by PennStater, August 26, 2010 21:11:31

Pete -- you just asked for their IC number? which one? You got to remember that members of PDRM carry two MyKads!

You should have asked them for their UMNO membership numbers and that way they will be sure to be "summoned" by God Almighty!

Here's a new tag line: The UMNO membership card - never leave home without it (only recognized in Malaysia when BN is still in control)!

haha!

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written by asiana888, August 26, 2010 20:36:57

Wow!?

I never knew that Friday sermons in mosques need to be read from a prepared text ... including the prayer? Like that then muslims just go to mosque and do their prayers and take the leaflet home - no need to have one more civil servant (khatib/tok imam)??!!!

It reminds me of churches in communist countries where the priests only read from prepared text by the communist government.

If like that .... how can a 'tok imam' share his "inspired" message from God to the faithfuls?

Scary la .... maybe Imam Mahdi (Messiah) when he come to Malaysia need a list from dUMNOs before He can reach out to His faithful? Gila betul?

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written by uxzee, August 26, 2010 20:31:44

As a minister incharge of Islamic Affairs, Jamil Khir has sinned more than any average Muslim. He seems to pick and choose and wrongly expose PR's leaders' 'errors'. Doesn't Jamil Khir know that Islam also forbids corruption, Injustice, murders, misrule, croynism, thievery, misinformation, unfair practices, unfairness to other races and religion, ... etc. Have we ever heard Jamil Khir voicing out on these ills ?

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written by Better My, August 26, 2010 20:19:08

There a sense of deja vu about this piece, Malay Man, Malaysian Heart.

It was like the day you were in Kamunting sitting quietly behind the class (as in an MT office somwhere now) and letting it all unfold before you from the inman sermon ( as this Jamil Khir Baharom is saying his pieces). Your sudden urge to jump out and say what is on your mind (above).

I say this chap Jamil Khir Baharom is about to get the headache of his life (just like the inman for turning up in Maestro;s class) for coming into the presence of the Mastero.

Yes, Islam is made to look really stupid by many muslim who left their brains behind except the chick pea-sized sub-component when they go about their daily routines and talk in public. Thats the ways non-mulsim see it - but no harm done, mostly the non-mulsim understand the stupidity of it all. The muslim themselves must speak up to correct the errors of the the stupid ways. If only you have the mainstream medias at your disposal, then you would accelrate the msrat learning curve and declerate or end the unqualifed personal interpretation coming off a pea-size brains.

If this is any consolation to those who think this is another muslim bashing, many christians elder/die-hards equally commit the same errors of their own interpretations of Christianity. . If I can get some $ for each of the different denomination interpretation on the bible versesand its link to todays living, I would do very well dollar-wise. I find it quite it amusing that the understandings can vary so widely.
The main difference is christians opinions are pretty harmless and non-political, whereas Muslim opinions, such as those by Jamil Khir Baharom and so MANY others by BeEnd bad muslim mob are politcal, purely for the purpose of advancing their poltical agenda to dominate over others, to strike the fears onto others.

Using Islam to strike the fear into opppositiion or to bully opposition is a cowardy un-Islamic act, to me. it should be seen as an affront to all good muslim people, as the oppostion are also muslim too, just as Zaid said," I am a Malay, too" There is no end to the use religion in poltics. Of couse, BeEnd will never understand that as they have lost all prideand dignity on behalf of the Malay. The good future malay, filled with pride, will not use religion to win arguments or threaten others but use policies material to convince the masses.

Marginalised Sabah PKR in the lastest resturcture - keep your heads down. The future is full of opportunities for you guys once PR sets foot in Putrajaya.

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written by Nixcloud, August 26, 2010 20:17:29

another katak bawah tempurung....

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written by a guest, August 26, 2010 20:09:23

Geeez. . ., I am not going to doa' for leaders or rulers that are corrupt, thieving and suck the peoples' blood without doing anything!

As usual, for tomorrow's Friday prayer's doa' , my palms will automatically face the heavens when the Khatib cite the well being for all the Ummah (the masses) and face the earth when he cites the wellbeing. . ., well you know who!

No UMNO goons or any Minister from the Prime Minister's Department is going to force me to whom I wish to doa"!

My doa' is my business with my Creator. . ., it has nothing to do with the Minister from the Prime Minister's Department, the UMNO goons or Utusan Meloya!

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written by roggon, August 26, 2010 20:09:16

The moslems make islam stupid because the Moolayu UMNOs are damn stupid!!! For that reason, everytime I see or hear an individual who spupports UMNO ro the BN must be stupid!!!!

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written by bambooman, August 26, 2010 19:53:59

hello Jamil Khir Baharom,
Islam is Universal......why are you only advising only malaysian sermon readers ? ? ? ?
either you are under a coconut shell or.......... fat ros mama's sarong ! ! !
stupid comment from a minister ! ! ! !

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written by theAlphamale, August 26, 2010 19:52:10

Another well written article to exposed the confusion or the confuser.... When we treat each other as equals in the eyes of God only than can we find peace and prosperity in our land called Malaysia. We should emulate countries that have proven the formula of equality and transparency.... Continue the writing RPK.. Great job.

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written by red1, August 26, 2010 19:16:47

When the Messiah or Imam Mahdi comes, he will unite the Muslims. He only won't tell you who those Muslims are. They are not those with Muslims names nor shout Quranic verses to tyrannize people. The ones who follow the Messiah most likely will be those who today remotely identified with Islam.

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written by hellosunshine, August 26, 2010 19:13:30

Not only the Muslims, the non-Muslims can also bear witness all across the nation to the endless sins committed by these munafik Muslims in Umno like Mahalanun and their lapdogs in the religious depts like Harussani. These sinners think God is too busy tending to all the problems in the Middle East and the rest of the world and He missed little old Malaysia under the radar. Judging from their antics and continuous racist propaganda and plundering, these people do not fear God and do not believe in God's wrath. smilies/shocked.gif

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written by a guest, August 26, 2010 19:09:45

God is no debtor to any man whether iman, pastor, priest or monk. Each is free to pray for all things. Whether God answers or agrees is another. God's answer can be "Yes", "No" or "Silent". He don't care if what you pray for is not in his Will and plan of things.

BN and UMNO goons can pray for something.
DAP can pray for another.
PAS can pray for good things

GOD answer as HE wish lah. Why are we quarelling whether who can pray for who!

I pray for Najib everyday. What do I pray? Private lah.

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written by Democrats, August 26, 2010 19:07:40

Problem with many Muslims, especially umnoputras and our misguided imams and muftis is they think they are more superior than ALLAH, that is why they have to protect ALLAH, rather than ALLAH is bigger than them, so that they should be humble and accept his teachings. They also feel ALLAH belong to them, so no one else can use them, rather than feel they belong to ALLAH.

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written by educationist, August 26, 2010 18:33:29

Coming from u our dear RPK, the issue of the sermon in Penang is now as clear as daylight.
But it is obvious, the UMNOputras will continue to muddle the issue!!