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Lawyers: Perak decision binding on PM's post


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Bu Chua Sue Ann, The Edge

The precedent set by the Federal Court's decision in the Perak constitutional crisis has created a binding effect on the prime minister and federal government, lawyers said.
The apex court today affirmed Barisan Nasional's (BN) Datuk Seri Dr Zambry Abdul Kadir as the rightful menteri besar of Perak, dismissing the appeal brought by former Perak menteri besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin in a year-long tussle for the state government.

Zambry's counsel Datuk Mohd Hafarizam Harun and Nizar's counsel Edmund Bon both agreed that the Federal Court's decision applied to the prime minister's position with regards to the Federal Constitution and its provisions on the Yang di-Pertuan Agong's role in appointing and dismissing the country's chief executive.

Applying the Perak precedent, Hafarizam said the prime minister similarly must tender his resignation if an opposition leader claimed to command the majority in the Dewan Rakyat and if the King did not consent to the prime minister's request to dissolve parliament.

"(If that should happen), if the Agong does not consent to the prime minister's request to dissolve parliament, the prime minister must resign or his seat will be deemed vacant.

"If you have to wait for parliament to be in session to determine whether the prime minister has majority confidence, some representatives might have defected and parliament would be hung and there would be no government (until parliament can resume sitting or be called)," said the Umno legal adviser in a telephone interview.

Article 43(4) of the Federal Constitution states: "If the prime minister ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the House of Representatives, then, unless at his request the Yang di-Pertuan Agong dissolves parliament, the prime minister shall tender the resignation of the cabinet."

That provision is similar to Article 16(6) of the Perak Constitution, which was referred to for the Federal Court's interpretation in Nizar's suit against Zambry.

Hafarizam and Bon noted that the Federal Court's decision today meant that returning to the legislature was not the only way to ascertain whether a menteri besar still commanded the majority confidence of the state assembly.

The general rule has always been to go back to the state assembly but in the absence of a sitting, the menteri besar or chief minister can still lose confidence, said Hafarizam.

According to Bon, Nizar's lawyers had argued the case with a view to "protect the monarchy" from being asked to make political decisions in determining the leader of the executive.

"Our argument requires the House to decide on the leader (of the executive). Our argument is not a form of rebellion against the rulers but meant to protect the rulers when they are asked to make political decisions," Bon said.

Bon, who chairs the Bar Council's constitutional law committee, also said it would be "dangerous" if a menteri besar or prime minister need not return to the legislature to determine their positions in the event of uncertainty.

"It creates a lot of instability. It will always mean that it boils down to the decision of one person. It's dangerous. It's not something we advocate," Bon said.

Meanwhile, Universiti Teknologi Mara's Emeritus Professor of Law Datuk Dr Shad Saleem Faruqi declined to comment on whether the Perak case has potential impact on the prime minister's office.

"I don't want to fall into the trap of saying the prime minister's position is in danger. He's got a comfortable majority. Any speculation is improper. It is improper to speculate about the downfall of the federal government," Shad said.

The prominent law professor also stressed that "all fine points in constitutional law are arguable". 


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written by MyBUDAK, February 11, 2010 00:48:45
this shows that Najis Mongolia punya power lebih kuat drp TDM... smilies/grin.gif
TDM only tarik the Supreme Court judges down nia...
Najis use 5-goondoo judges to tarik Perak into his pocket... smilies/cheesy.gif

last time TDM take-off Sultans immunity jacket n let them run naked in the public...
this time Najis give Sultan power to sack MB, erase Malaysia Constitution with "liquid paper"...
Siapa lagi hebat... smilies/shocked.gif
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written by ganbing, February 10, 2010 22:38:47
Umno will manipulate the law as it wishes. In ruling for the 3 frogs against speaker Sivakumar, the pariah judge ignored the provision in the constitution that the proceedings of the Assembly shall not be subject to any court. When Sivakumar sued the illegal speaker, another judge applied the same ruling against him, saying that the court cannot interfere. The law is whatever Umno's judges say it is.
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written by ganbing, February 10, 2010 22:30:53
Contradictions abound in this infamous judgement. The judges said the constitution is silent on whether a vote of no-confidence need to be taken in the Assembly. Then who gives the sultan the right to take a survey of no-confidence in his palace? The judges also said the constitution is silent on what happens if the MB does not resign if the sultan refuses a dissolution. Then who gives the sultan the right to sack the MB? The judges have given extra powers to the sultan that the constitution does not provide just to serve their political masters. The constitution has been used as toilet paper to wipe Umno's ass.
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written by Sabahfan, February 10, 2010 21:35:27
Sorry, for me the analysis is all bullshit.... THIS IS MOOLAYU LAND

DO YOU REALLY EXPECT ME TO BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS IN PERAK WILL EQUALLY APPLIES TO THE UMNO PM...

BULLSHIT MAN...

If Najis bin c4 ever loses a simple majority in parliament, all the judges and sultans will have different arguments and probably give a new interpretation to whatever clauses of the Federal constitution JUST TO ENSURE UMNO RULES FOR ETERNITY.

THE RAKYATS NOW should give a solution. The best one is find an ASSASIN and exterminate the frogs... tHAT WAY... there will be no more power grab from the choice of the rakyat.
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written by Susuit, February 10, 2010 15:42:47
Umno/BN's law = RM! RM! RM!
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written by Pegasus, February 10, 2010 14:53:23
Well, we have seen what jesters and clowns did to Perak crisis! And it shows...that they are willing to eat their master shit and their urine ...if ask to ...so...!
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written by earthman, February 10, 2010 14:24:07
"I don't want to fall into the trap of saying the prime minister's position is in danger. He's got a comfortable majority. Any speculation is improper. It is improper to speculate about the downfall of the federal government," Shad said. ----- Professor Dr Shad.

He said that he does not want to comment and yet he comment that the prime minister has a comfortable majority. A professor is supposed to be learned and to teach others how to arrived at a conclusion logically. In this case we see a problem here in our higher education institutions.
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written by Motherchell, February 10, 2010 14:21:36
In this hole whole argument i have only one thing to say ------------Is the UTM so called Prof a lawyer or a Court usherer???
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written by Better My, February 10, 2010 13:23:48
Opening a pandora box of ambiguity on the rights of governing with this precedent. You have righly pointed it out, Chua. Opening a can of worms? Who has the rights govenment in this situation or variation of it? You law /legislature guys can talk as much as you. It is wasted time and resources. You know why? This mob wont care stuff about rules. They just want to suit them. Tomorrow, in the same scenario, the mob's court would say something else to suit them. Another insult to the will of Malaysian, especially to the malay people who want change but are stuffed again.
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written by wali10, February 10, 2010 13:23:32
Salam & Hi to all,
I think the implication is that should several and sufficient BN component party YBs quit supporting BN or turned independents and BN loses majority, Najib has to go. All that need to be done is for the several BN YBs to just threat the ruling coalition about switching allegiance.... and BN has no choice but to buy them with undisclosed sum of $$$$$$ to retain power. What an opportunity for all the UMNO, MCA, MIC and other BN-component YBs to make money!!
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written by ibabonma, February 10, 2010 12:52:44
They screwed up everything: Judiciary, Police, AG Chambers, MACC and now the Law Makers i.e. the State Assemblies and Parliament and we are now under Monarchy rule.

Dr M, u sudah bisu ke? Dulu u naik gajah hantam sultan sana-sini, sekarang kenapa diam bodoh? . smilies/angry.gif
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written by NSTPravda, February 10, 2010 12:05:27
Bon, who chairs the Bar Council's constitutional law committee, also said it would be "dangerous" if a menteri besar or prime minister need not return to the legislature to determine their positions in the event of uncertainty.
Ah, but it is also "dangerous" to kill people with C4, but it is $emua-nya OK if you swear on the Qu'ran you have not done it!!!

Universiti Teknologi Mara's Emeritus Professor of Law Datuk Dr Shad Saleem Faruqi declined to comment on whether the Perak case has potential impact on the prime minister's office.
... maybe our appointee learned law professor is so scared shi*tless that he forgot all his legal and moral principles... the poor guy knows who majerine his roti.

Ra$uah $ayang eh!smilies/tongue.gif
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written by passion, February 10, 2010 11:32:18
what makes you think when similar case happens to parliament, umno will yieldingly obey? the bigots will come out with most absurd excuse of all time to stay in power. my 2 cent bet
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written by durianbesar, February 10, 2010 11:29:43
Datuk Dr Shad Saleem Faruqi you are an arsse hole
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written by Wisdom above, February 10, 2010 11:06:07
Let's see whether this Federal Court decision can be used to defeat the BN Federal Government and also defeat the BN State Governments ?
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written by ez24get, February 10, 2010 11:03:39
But this is exactly what UMNO wants! They know that their present position is secured as the Selangor Sultan and the Agung is beholden to UMNO. The PM won't be removed by the Agung.

But on the other hand is the opposition wins the next General Election, they will ask the Agung to remove whosoever is appointed by the opposition to be the PM.

UMNO is the dirtiest and got the judiciary to work hand in hand with them to perpetuate their dirty deeds and continue their corrupted ways. What do you people expect when an ex-UMNO guy is the head of the judiciary?
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written by singhkris, February 10, 2010 11:00:52
Binding? My foot! Precedents did not bind this court. They will just give another interpretation and make a decision to favour their masters. Anyway, did our CJ not say that he will not take part in proceedings involving UMNO? Well he did in this case without batting an eyelid! They do not honour their own words!
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written by bambooman, February 10, 2010 10:58:01
hello sue ann,

when that happen to najib the court jokers ( i mean judge ) will tell you that it is a different landscape. the BN gomen do not have to honour and apply whatever that happened to perak situation!

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