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Under Islamic law, a non-Muslim parent has no rights over a Muslim child


Tuesday, 01 January 2008
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MCA and Ong Should Demand That Cabinet Makes A Decision Preventing Any Conversion Of A Child To Islam Unless Consent Is Obtained From Both Parents

The government’s maintenance of the status quo by renewing the annual permit of the 13 year old Herald - The Catholic Weekly newspaper to continue printing its Bahasa Malaysia section with no restrictions on the use of the word Allah for God, is a step in the right direction. However the controversy over its initial refusal to renew the publishing permit unless the word Allah was dropped because Allah is exclusively reserved for reference to the Muslim God, was completely unnecessary and shows the extremist nature of government officials handling issues of such sensitive nature; more so when the word Allah has been used without any complaint or problems for the past 50 years.

Such maintenance of the status quo is merely preserving and defending existing rights and a lot still has to be done to restore our constitutional right to freedom of religion lost as a result of several Federal Court decisions such as the Lina Joy case and the recent Subashini case. The Lina Joy case barred the right to freedom of conscience and religion by Muslims to convert back to their original religion effectively making a Muslim or a convert a Muslim for all eternity.

The Subashini decision is more pernicious in that it allows a Muslim parent who has just converted to convert his or her children without the consent of the other non-Muslim parent. This is a great step backward that not only denies the right of freedom of religion but also the constitutional and biological right of a parent over their children.

This is a great step backward that will only encourage a divorcing couple fighting over custodial rights of their children to convert to Islam to gain an advantage in securing custodial rights over the other parent. Despite such negation of the rights of non-Muslim parents, DAP is shocked that MCA has openly endorsed supported and welcomed the Federal Court ruling.

What is the point of civil court having jurisdiction to hear and decide on matrimonial disputes involving a spouse who has converted to Islam when it will take no action to prevent that converted spouse to also convert their children. Ong Ka Ting should read the judgement in full and realize that the impact of allowing such unilateral conversion by any parent regardless of objections from the other parent. The other non-Muslim parent will not be able to re-convert the child out of Islam. The child will also be deprived of its right to convert out of Islam at the age of 18.

By changing a child's religion without the consent of both parents will cause much heartbreak. Worse is that Subashini’s case has effectively lost custodial rights of both hers sons (where one is converted whereas the other remains unconverted with the mother) if the father proceeds with the conversion. Under Islamic law, a non-Muslim parent has no rights over a Muslim child.

DAP unreservedly condemns such support by Ong and MCA in denying the biological right of Subashini as a mother. All non-Muslims should open their eyes and realize that in support of UMNO’s Islamic state, Ong and MCA are willing to sacrifice the parental rights of non-Muslims just to preserve their government positions. Ong should retract his support and demand in Cabinet decision barring any conversion of a child to Islam unless consent is obtained from both parents.

LIM GUAN ENG


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written by miwaki, January 01, 2008 01:34:15
This thing can only happen in third world country,I don't believe Americans will follow this rule.Anyway,nobody forces you to embrace Islam,you reap what you sow-lah my friend.

MCA of course will lose more seats b'cos of the above but even without it,MCA will lose seats since they are just followers of BN and not the leaders.MCA and Gerakan prefer to be cursed and condemned by the people rather than leaving BN as they cannot survive without UMNO.To them,there is no way they can earn ministerial salary if they are out of the government.What a pity !
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written by surgeffect, December 31, 2007 22:20:14
Please, as a matter of maturity and equity, don't use the Latin term Res Ipsa Liquitor where one's actions speak for itself, to construe a whole religion based upon one person's action. Probably you are educated as you have come across such Latin phrases, but as high as you are, you surely do not know everything out there. One must ask, what is the whole nature of that law, why was that law brought about, and what are the exceptions, whether internal (within the doctrine) or external (outside that doctrine but is still within the whole concept of the religion) concepts would apply.

I would also like to add, that there is a possibility that my approach or opinion may be wrong in various ways as I am not educated in Islam nor Islamic Law. If so, I sincerely apologize. However, I still definitely disagree with you and how you dealt with the issue Sutha.
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written by monstercat, December 31, 2007 21:04:41
Such a sad case. The civil court dare not set a precedence for this case. The judge that dissent is who? Non-Muslim? I do not know yet; but he/she dared to dissent. The other judges, takut the ustaz and ulamas and the Muslim communities accuse them being un-Islamic. Oh, that's a no-no. Bad for their image!
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written by RumahPanjai, December 31, 2007 18:41:03
That's an easy way to attract more converts. if you want custody of your children in a divorce just convert lah. By the way the wife can do likewise too. Promoting a scenario of being a convert for convenience? As for the children their religious freedom does not exist since their converted parent decides for them. The sad sad thing is, when they reach maturity they can't opt out of it.
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written by Sutha, December 31, 2007 17:16:15
Well, that is islamic justice. We can brag in any and every direction. But the happenings speak for themselves. Res Ipsa Liquitor.
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written by Harbinger, December 31, 2007 13:47:26
Shit!!This is sooooo unfair and dangerous !!!They underestimate the ties that bind a mother to a child she has carried for 9 months and nursed thereafter. If it was me , I'll do anything and I mean ANYTHING just to be with my children.My children and I will never be parted just because some religious nuts say so!!Imagine the pain inflicted on the children and the mother because of the forced separation.The cunning and the sly(eg. Subashini's ex)are making use of the religion to their advantage and the lawmakers endorse it.Shut up Ong ! Shut up MCA ! You're not fit to speak on our behalf,you balless twits !!!!Anyone who thinks the mother has less rights than the father should have their children forcibly removed as well.Don't talk thru your butt !!!!
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written by mikewang, December 31, 2007 12:40:15
I predict the biggest BN casualty in the next GE would be MCA.
Only MCA candidates contesting in Malay majority or plurarity seats stand any chance of winning.
If DSAI message gets to the Malays, MCA may even be wiped out in those traditionally safe seats.
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written by densemy, December 31, 2007 12:12:09
Under Islamic law not even muslim parents have any rights over their child... or at least they willingly give up their rights as a parent and allow their children to be indoctrinated by someone who could be teaching them anything

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