Court says ‘yes’ to Allah for Christians
(The Malaysian Insider) - It will be a glorious new year for some 850,000 Catholics in Malaysia.
In a landmark ruling today, the High Court here lifted the home minister’s ban against the Catholic church publishing the word “Allah” to refer to the Christian God in its weekly paper, Herald.
Counsel for the Herald, Porres Royan, told reporters outside the crowded court, “The court has granted the declaration that the applicant has the Constitutional right to use the word Allah. I believe the ministry is bound by the court’s decision.”Senior Federal counsel Datuk Kamaludin Md Said said, “I was made to understand the ministry has already issued the permit for 2010.” The publishing permit for the Herald expires today.
He added that he will consult the ministry for new instruction, when asked about his next course of action.
The government had said that the ban was necessary to avoid confusing the majority Muslims in the country. Islam is the official religion in Malaysia.
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written by Fart Fart Wah, January 02, 2010 16:25:05
written by Fart Fart Wah, January 02, 2010 16:25:05
open and shut case.......................
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written by popuri, January 02, 2010 11:24:38
written by popuri, January 02, 2010 11:24:38
The Catholics have been using Allah for centuries. Why do we need you to stir up a big fuss about it now?
Which religion you chose to embrace does not matter, as long as your religion teaches compassion, love and respect. You're on the right track.
Which religion you chose to embrace does not matter, as long as your religion teaches compassion, love and respect. You're on the right track.
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written by Evol, January 01, 2010 20:24:03
written by Evol, January 01, 2010 20:24:03
There should not be any case at all, the stupid Govt shouldn't have issue the order to stop using Allah for Christians, wasting our tax payer money only, how can Najis claimed Rakyat Didahulukan?
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written by Proarte, January 01, 2010 18:13:34
written by Proarte, January 01, 2010 18:13:34
alpha 100 wrote:
"My prayer is for Home Ministry not to appeal but to allow Christian to use the word "Allah" for their internal publication (basically publication eg bible, herald for non-muslim only) and for their worship in their place of worship. "
Why for 'non-Muslim only' ?
Is the Koran only for Muslims to read? Do the Korans available in Malaysia have 'For Muslim only' caption in the front cover?
Do the Azan prayers on RTM with their Koranic verses being read and televised come with the caveats ' For Muslims only' ? Discrimination in all its forms is not allowed by Allah.
When will the Home ministry start being logical and non-discriminatory?
"My prayer is for Home Ministry not to appeal but to allow Christian to use the word "Allah" for their internal publication (basically publication eg bible, herald for non-muslim only) and for their worship in their place of worship. "
Why for 'non-Muslim only' ?
Is the Koran only for Muslims to read? Do the Korans available in Malaysia have 'For Muslim only' caption in the front cover?
Do the Azan prayers on RTM with their Koranic verses being read and televised come with the caveats ' For Muslims only' ? Discrimination in all its forms is not allowed by Allah.
When will the Home ministry start being logical and non-discriminatory?
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written by alpha100, January 01, 2010 17:08:18
written by alpha100, January 01, 2010 17:08:18
Anyone in Home Ministry reading this!
My prayer is for Home Ministry not to appeal but to allow Christian to use the word "Allah" for their internal publication (basically publication eg bible, herald for non-muslim only) and for their worship in their place of worship.
Those in authority may have a very narrow perspective when they 1st considered the banning of the use of the word. But now that the Christian authority has highlighted that the word "Allah" has been used by
Christian for decades; the Home Ministry and their allies should reconsider their stand and allow the use of the word. This I believe is better than appeal and create love/hate relationship while promoting Malaysia1!
My prayer is for Home Ministry not to appeal but to allow Christian to use the word "Allah" for their internal publication (basically publication eg bible, herald for non-muslim only) and for their worship in their place of worship.
Those in authority may have a very narrow perspective when they 1st considered the banning of the use of the word. But now that the Christian authority has highlighted that the word "Allah" has been used by
Christian for decades; the Home Ministry and their allies should reconsider their stand and allow the use of the word. This I believe is better than appeal and create love/hate relationship while promoting Malaysia1!
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written by IbnAbdHalim, January 01, 2010 12:24:13
written by IbnAbdHalim, January 01, 2010 12:24:13
He added that he will consult the ministry for new instruction, when asked about his next course of action.
The instruction is to appeal and the appellate court will rule in gomen's favour.
Down with UMNO racists!
The instruction is to appeal and the appellate court will rule in gomen's favour.
Down with UMNO racists!
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written by RumahPanjai, January 01, 2010 10:25:25
written by RumahPanjai, January 01, 2010 10:25:25
Our general perception of the appeals court is as good as stepping on dog shit! The appeal judges want to be little "allahs" too.
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written by Semut Jantan, January 01, 2010 05:32:10
written by Semut Jantan, January 01, 2010 05:32:10
What else are reserved words for UMNO, PROJECTS? COMMISSION? SUAP? POLICE-BRUTALITY? MURDER-COVER-UP? BOCOR?
The list goes on, but I don't mind they own some of them permanently. Because the words do confuse the innocent users. The words do tarnish the users after all these 50 years of UMNO shits desecreting the vocabulary of otherwise clean usages.
The list goes on, but I don't mind they own some of them permanently. Because the words do confuse the innocent users. The words do tarnish the users after all these 50 years of UMNO shits desecreting the vocabulary of otherwise clean usages.
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written by Ben, January 01, 2010 04:00:43
written by Ben, January 01, 2010 04:00:43
Take heart, tis a new year and a new chapter in Malaysia's history. Tis a new year gift to remind us that there is a power that is bigger than ministers and those appointed into authority. We must use this as an encouragement from our Lord that when we stand in the gap, He will hear us and grant our petition and favour justice. O you of little faith, take heart and know that He is God. Amen.
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written by The Hammer, January 01, 2010 03:44:43
written by The Hammer, January 01, 2010 03:44:43
Agreed with some of the comments mentioned; it is too early for the Christians to be excited regarding the decision. What goes up can also come down rapidly!
Why don't these Christians use EL ALLAH instead! Time for CHANGE!!
Why don't these Christians use EL ALLAH instead! Time for CHANGE!!
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written by penangboi, January 01, 2010 03:29:52
written by penangboi, January 01, 2010 03:29:52
I don't want to be a kill joy especially on the first day of a new year but let's admit it.
In BolehLand all so-called landmark decisions in Malaysian courts are subject to appeals and 10 out of 10 appeals end up with rulings going against the first ruling.
What? You don't think so? Remember Perak MB fiasco? Remember all the other rulings in appeals by UMNO/BN which all ended up with 'bought' judges dishing out rulings in favour of UMNO/BN?
My advice is don't start bringing out those champagne yet.
In BolehLand all so-called landmark decisions in Malaysian courts are subject to appeals and 10 out of 10 appeals end up with rulings going against the first ruling.
What? You don't think so? Remember Perak MB fiasco? Remember all the other rulings in appeals by UMNO/BN which all ended up with 'bought' judges dishing out rulings in favour of UMNO/BN?
My advice is don't start bringing out those champagne yet.
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written by brotherhood, January 01, 2010 01:36:47
written by brotherhood, January 01, 2010 01:36:47
Where were all the Voices of Sabahan so call Catholic's Natives Political Leaders?..especially their Politicans from PBS...PBRS...UPKO....???...
And where were the Voices of those Chinese Leaders in the BN Govt who are screaming out loud that they are Christians ?? like in LDP....MCA...Garakan ..All cowards with their Silence on this issue.....such hypocrites.
And where were the Voices of those Chinese Leaders in the BN Govt who are screaming out loud that they are Christians ?? like in LDP....MCA...Garakan ..All cowards with their Silence on this issue.....such hypocrites.
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written by Proarte, January 01, 2010 00:24:44
written by Proarte, January 01, 2010 00:24:44
It would have been more meaningful if the judge was a Malay Muslim. The issue of bias will sadly now be an issue.
Malay judges unfortunately being generally below par intellectually and in legal matters due to UMNO's policy of controlling the judiciary, will not dare to go against their master UMNO who has appointed and promoted them for a very specific reason, that is to secure its hegemony. Our judges have increasingly been seen to be willing prostitutes of the ruling power.
Unfortunately Pakatan leaders as well have shown their moral cowardice particularly Anwar Ibrahim. He could have made an unequivocal statement when this issue arose saying that Allah is a universal term for the Abrahamic faiths. But he chose to keep a cowardly silence. Shame on you Anwar!
Anwar is so insecure in his political support amongst the Malays that he continues to play his trademark duplicitious politics.
Malay judges unfortunately being generally below par intellectually and in legal matters due to UMNO's policy of controlling the judiciary, will not dare to go against their master UMNO who has appointed and promoted them for a very specific reason, that is to secure its hegemony. Our judges have increasingly been seen to be willing prostitutes of the ruling power.
Unfortunately Pakatan leaders as well have shown their moral cowardice particularly Anwar Ibrahim. He could have made an unequivocal statement when this issue arose saying that Allah is a universal term for the Abrahamic faiths. But he chose to keep a cowardly silence. Shame on you Anwar!
Anwar is so insecure in his political support amongst the Malays that he continues to play his trademark duplicitious politics.
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written by singhkris, January 01, 2010 00:08:52
written by singhkris, January 01, 2010 00:08:52
WE thank Allah for the court's wisdom in this decision.
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written by budakindia, December 31, 2009 23:57:02
written by budakindia, December 31, 2009 23:57:02
And the higher courts will overturn the ruling! Yawn! What else is new in loony Malaysia? 
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written by truthreallyhurts, December 31, 2009 23:47:20
written by truthreallyhurts, December 31, 2009 23:47:20
Aiya! Wayang kulit saja! We all know what will happen next..... AGee will appeal next week, and THREE crony Jesters will hastily overturn the decision. No wriiten judgement.... so case will die .... ALLAH-mak!
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written by peter, December 31, 2009 22:22:38
written by peter, December 31, 2009 22:22:38
Don't be too happy.. "a glorious new year"? Well, in a matter of time, they will appeal and put a umNO-nazi party judge on the seat and there goes your "glorious new year". People don't ever forget you're living in Zimbawasia.
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written by Sabahfan, December 31, 2009 22:10:00
written by Sabahfan, December 31, 2009 22:10:00
HAAAAAAleluia....
But as a christian, I AM still NOT happpy because sure the appeal court will overturn this in a weeks time.
However, if the court decision becomes permanent... I will send another rm50 to MTs account
Promise is a promise RPK
But as a christian, I AM still NOT happpy because sure the appeal court will overturn this in a weeks time.
However, if the court decision becomes permanent... I will send another rm50 to MTs account
Promise is a promise RPK
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written by asguard, December 31, 2009 21:41:09
written by asguard, December 31, 2009 21:41:09
To the catholics....don't be so happy about it.... for oblivious reasons.... we have to wait and see if there any meddling from UMNO or one its evil cohorts!
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written by asguard, December 31, 2009 21:41:09
written by asguard, December 31, 2009 21:41:09
To the catholics....don't be so happy about it.... for oblivious reasons.... we have to wait and see if there any meddling from UMNO or one its evil cohorts!
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written by educationist, December 31, 2009 20:42:03
written by educationist, December 31, 2009 20:42:03
The ruling is , of course welcomed.
That the UMNOputras will get it overturned at the higher courts is without doubt.
But it is indicative there's semblance of justice in our judiciary-how can any one in his right sense claim that the term Allah is exclusive to Malay Muslim usage only?
That the UMNOputras will get it overturned at the higher courts is without doubt.
But it is indicative there's semblance of justice in our judiciary-how can any one in his right sense claim that the term Allah is exclusive to Malay Muslim usage only?
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written by Proarte, December 31, 2009 20:17:44
written by Proarte, December 31, 2009 20:17:44
If UMNO is smart, it would not appeal. It would be an unnecessary distraction which will make Malaysia the international laughing stock revealing the shallowness of Islamic practise and understanding in Malaysia.
I dare any Muslim to deny that the God of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammed is NOT Allah.
If they are stupid enough to do so, then it is clear they have not read the Koran but only the UMNO manifesto.
I dare any Muslim to deny that the God of Abraham, Jesus and Muhammed is NOT Allah.
If they are stupid enough to do so, then it is clear they have not read the Koran but only the UMNO manifesto.
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written by Stupid me, December 31, 2009 19:46:27
written by Stupid me, December 31, 2009 19:46:27
The Court of Appeal's decision will be directly opposite to that of the High Court. Anyone keen to bet?
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written by Nixcloud, December 31, 2009 19:22:26
written by Nixcloud, December 31, 2009 19:22:26
is Allah not an arabic word whilst Tuhan is malay...
my middle eastern christian friends (yeah, no typing error, there are christians in middle east) uses the word Allah too...
Malaysia very funny!!!
my middle eastern christian friends (yeah, no typing error, there are christians in middle east) uses the word Allah too...
Malaysia very funny!!!
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written by ekt tan, December 31, 2009 19:19:10
written by ekt tan, December 31, 2009 19:19:10
High Court judge who delivered this decision can consider himself sacked as of today for going against UMNO.
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written by strifus, December 31, 2009 19:15:21
written by strifus, December 31, 2009 19:15:21
Ah, oumrie thanks for pointing it out to me. Its been a long time since I have sung or spoken BM. Have a great new year 
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written by betasigma, December 31, 2009 18:56:03
written by betasigma, December 31, 2009 18:56:03
same old umno trick,the court of appeal would jus overturn the high court decision as usual under the fake judiciary.
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written by wongnoball, December 31, 2009 18:44:38
written by wongnoball, December 31, 2009 18:44:38
I say AMEN to Common sense....... lets move on next matter for Freedom of Conversion ala Lina Joy then Body snatching!! Then make redundant JAIS, MAIS......... Let society judge your behaviour be it Islam, Christian, Buddist, Hindu....no need to show power that by following a certain religion ideology all Crime will not exist...Nirvana Created....these are MISGUIDED teaching.....
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written by RFernandez, December 31, 2009 18:42:02
written by RFernandez, December 31, 2009 18:42:02
So now it's time to change our national anthem lyrics to Allah Kurnia kan..instead of TUHAN kurnia kan..
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written by coolandy, December 31, 2009 18:41:47
written by coolandy, December 31, 2009 18:41:47
Don't be too happy with High Court Judgment. Wait for the Appeals Court.
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written by my oumrie, December 31, 2009 18:37:37
written by my oumrie, December 31, 2009 18:37:37
Opps, wrong spelling.
@Strifus: Actually, there IS a word meaning GOD in Bahasa Malaysia. It's TUHAN, like in our NegaraKu "....Rahmat Bahgia, TUHAN di kurniakan, Raja kita, selamat bertahta....". Or maybe you don't know our National Anthem....?
@Strifus: Actually, there IS a word meaning GOD in Bahasa Malaysia. It's TUHAN, like in our NegaraKu "....Rahmat Bahgia, TUHAN di kurniakan, Raja kita, selamat bertahta....". Or maybe you don't know our National Anthem....?
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written by my oumrie, December 31, 2009 18:36:37
@Strifus: Actually, there IS a word meaning GOD in Bahasa Malaysia. It's TUHAN, like in our NegaraKu "....Rahmat Bahgia, TUHUN di kurniakan, Raja kita, selamat bertahta....". Or maybe you don't know our National Anthem....?
written by my oumrie, December 31, 2009 18:36:37
@Strifus: Actually, there IS a word meaning GOD in Bahasa Malaysia. It's TUHAN, like in our NegaraKu "....Rahmat Bahgia, TUHUN di kurniakan, Raja kita, selamat bertahta....". Or maybe you don't know our National Anthem....?
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written by bambooman, December 31, 2009 18:30:06
written by bambooman, December 31, 2009 18:30:06
"GOD" to the indonesian melayu can be TUHAN......but to the umno....."TOO LAN"
tiew niamah umno!!!!!!
tiew niamah umno!!!!!!
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written by malsia1206, December 31, 2009 18:27:20
written by malsia1206, December 31, 2009 18:27:20
No thanks to the High Court for this landmark judgment but it lends legal credence to the doctrine no single group can lay seige the the word "ALLAH" in their religious practice. From time inmemorial, that has always been the situation. It's ONLY IN MALAYSIA some smart arses think and act as they themselves are bigger than ALLAH Himself. And they happen to be the biggest hypocrites in this country.
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This time, these crooked bastards want to take ownership of ' Allah ' too !!