By LOURDES CHARLES, The Star
KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamarudin is being investigated under Section 233 of the Communications and Multimedia Act 1998 for an article he wrote recently titled Let's send the Altantuya murderers to hell.
It is learnt that eight police officers from the Federal Commercial Crimes Investigations Department (CCID) visited Raja Petra’s house in Sungai Buloh here at about 9am on Friday.
They seized a laptop and a CPU (central processing unit) before leaving at about 11am.
According to Raja Petra’s wife Marina Lee Abdullah, her husband had also been served with a notice requesting him to present himself at the CCID office in Bukit Perdana on Friday evening.
It is learnt police officers from the cyber crimes investigations unit are expected to record his statement over the article he wrote and posted on the Malaysia Today online news portal on April 25.
CCID director Commissioner Datuk Koh Hong Sun confirmed his officers had visited Raja Petra to assist police in their investigations.
He declined to elaborate further.
It is learnt that the CCID officers would be investigating certain allegations made in the article that were deemed false and defamatory.
Under Section 233 of the Act:
1) A person who
a) by means of any network facilities or network service or applications service knowingly —
(i) makes, creates or solicits; and
(ii) initiates the transmission of,
any comment, request, suggestion or other communication which is obscene, indecent, false, menacing or offensive in character with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass another person; or
b) initiates a communication using any applications service, whether continuously, repeatedly or otherwise, during which communication may or may not ensue, with or without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass any person at any number or electronic address,
commits an offence.
2) A person who knowingly
(a) by means of a network service or applications service provides any obscene communication for commercial purposes to any person; or
(b) permits a network service or applications service under the person 's control to be used for an activity described in paragraph (a),
commits an offence.
(3) A person who commits an offence under this section shall, on conviction,be liable to a fine not exceeding fifty thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or to both and shall also be liable to a further fine of one thousand ringgit for every day during which the offence is continued after conviction
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Let's send the Altantuya murderers to hell
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written by talk2stop, May 03, 2008 01:01:10
written by talk2stop, May 03, 2008 01:01:10
To me RPK can be charged under Section 233 no question about. I hope the person/s press charges against RPK. If he/she doesn’t then they have something to hide. If they do they may or may not win but the collateral damages will be devastating.
I am pretty confident RPK is now armed and dangerous.
People we got a loose cannon here and about to ignite.
I am pretty confident RPK is now armed and dangerous.
People we got a loose cannon here and about to ignite.
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written by wangchung, May 03, 2008 00:24:52
written by wangchung, May 03, 2008 00:24:52
Rete! Thank God You are free. Please be extra careful... these goons might resort to all sort of tatic to get rid of you. Will pray for you.
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written by InEffective, May 02, 2008 21:24:24
written by InEffective, May 02, 2008 21:24:24
It appears we are fast approaching Zimbabwe's law and order standards - nice...
All apparatus of state (justice, law, order) comprehensively commandeered to service the interests of politicians.
Quite clearly our politicians believe that the rakyat and the nation's assets exist to serve at the pleasures of politicians.
Wonder if this is life environment we (the rakyat) wish to leave for our children ? (hint - see the news of Zimbabwe carefully, imagine your children's future)
All apparatus of state (justice, law, order) comprehensively commandeered to service the interests of politicians.
Quite clearly our politicians believe that the rakyat and the nation's assets exist to serve at the pleasures of politicians.
Wonder if this is life environment we (the rakyat) wish to leave for our children ? (hint - see the news of Zimbabwe carefully, imagine your children's future)
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written by mob1900, May 02, 2008 19:41:56
written by mob1900, May 02, 2008 19:41:56
Seems like coppers are 2 minds about it, 1st they said RPK's being investigated for 'commented on a case before the court made its decision' and now another under some vague Multimedia Act. We definately need IPCMC ASAP!
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written by carlitos, May 02, 2008 18:57:41
written by carlitos, May 02, 2008 18:57:41
apasal multimedia act?? RPK buat porn ke?
damn these people will throw the kitchen sink at RPK if they could.
damn idiots should spend time concentrating on improving the nation instead of wasting public money to get the police to go after RPK
damn these people will throw the kitchen sink at RPK if they could.
damn idiots should spend time concentrating on improving the nation instead of wasting public money to get the police to go after RPK
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written by carlitos, May 02, 2008 18:20:22
written by carlitos, May 02, 2008 18:20:22
Are we still not surprise why our children are at risk of being kidnapped by phedophiles when our nation police force time were abused to achieve some idiots politically motivated action on RPK?
How can there is even a shadow of a doubt from the Barisan Najis hard core supporters when it is very much obvious who are behind this abuse of power?
Shame on you all if you still support a tyrant who place more importance to their political image than the safety of YOUR children. Instead of concentrating to make our country safer from phedophiles they are being forced to concentrate up to 9 officers to go after RPK for thrumpt up charges.
Shame on you if you continue to support and vote for these people because then you are also saying those idiots political image is more important than YOUR children safety.
How can there is even a shadow of a doubt from the Barisan Najis hard core supporters when it is very much obvious who are behind this abuse of power?
Shame on you all if you still support a tyrant who place more importance to their political image than the safety of YOUR children. Instead of concentrating to make our country safer from phedophiles they are being forced to concentrate up to 9 officers to go after RPK for thrumpt up charges.
Shame on you if you continue to support and vote for these people because then you are also saying those idiots political image is more important than YOUR children safety.
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written by temanmu, May 02, 2008 17:55:36
written by temanmu, May 02, 2008 17:55:36
Waaaa... test case for Section 233 of the Act ...RPK wrong person to start with!
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written by ekayjay, May 02, 2008 17:13:18
written by ekayjay, May 02, 2008 17:13:18
probably it is time the rakyat show the government who the real masters of this country are. arise and be counted. let us show we stand up for justice and fair play. down with the largese of those in power. the power rests with the t=rakyat not those with titles and office. if the DP:M or even the PM has committed a crime, they should be made accountable - no two ways about it. may the rakyat be united transcending beyond the political divide to voice out in unision for justice to prevail.
long live rakyat malaysia.
cheers.
long live rakyat malaysia.
cheers.
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written by Proud_2b_Malaysian, May 02, 2008 16:41:47
written by Proud_2b_Malaysian, May 02, 2008 16:41:47
I feel sorry for this to have happened, especially when the people's roar of dissatisfaction came so loud in the GE12. It's a repeat of selective prosecution all over again. Why isn't the truly more seditious comments made by other more prominent persons investigated rather than this RPK article?
And to think that we are progressing towards a fairer and more dynamic nation expounded by AAB...it's just the opposite. So sad!
And to think that we are progressing towards a fairer and more dynamic nation expounded by AAB...it's just the opposite. So sad!
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written by suaraorang, May 02, 2008 15:44:30
written by suaraorang, May 02, 2008 15:44:30
If it has not already been done, can those of you who are good with creating banners, create good looking banners that has some words such as
- support freedom of speech
- is "Let's send the Altantuya murderers to hell" seditious?
- solidarity with RPK
- is Operasi Lalang 2 happening?
What is required are repeated points that will make the public think and ponder. Spread this banner to all the blogs. Let the readers decide for themselves if justice is being served.
- support freedom of speech
- is "Let's send the Altantuya murderers to hell" seditious?
- solidarity with RPK
- is Operasi Lalang 2 happening?
What is required are repeated points that will make the public think and ponder. Spread this banner to all the blogs. Let the readers decide for themselves if justice is being served.
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written by ctm999, May 02, 2008 15:01:20
I think he is being charge under section 2 (b) which means our hotheadedness and use of foul language have gotten him into trouble. I think he have warn us before this would happen.
written by ctm999, May 02, 2008 15:01:20
2) A person who knowingly
(a) by means of a network service or applications service provides any obscene communication for commercial purposes to any person; or
(b) permits a network service or applications service under the person 's control to be used for an activity described in paragraph (a),
commits an offence.
I think he is being charge under section 2 (b) which means our hotheadedness and use of foul language have gotten him into trouble. I think he have warn us before this would happen.
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written by budakindia, May 02, 2008 14:38:36
written by budakindia, May 02, 2008 14:38:36
oh yeah try proving that in court! The burden of proof lays on the prosecution will be huge! Unless they wanted to use the mattress trick again! 
IMHO if they use this trying to incriminate you, it's like trying to incriminate a person on being sloppy while eating his favourite nasi lemak! But again this is Malaysia and when a mattress can be a credible witness material! Hahahaha! Law and order in Malaysia run by over rated clowns!
IMHO if they use this trying to incriminate you, it's like trying to incriminate a person on being sloppy while eating his favourite nasi lemak! But again this is Malaysia and when a mattress can be a credible witness material! Hahahaha! Law and order in Malaysia run by over rated clowns!
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written by AsamLaksa, May 02, 2008 14:37:31
written by AsamLaksa, May 02, 2008 14:37:31
Another interesting point on how widely the court will apply the conviction under the Multimedia Act have to be balanced out with the safeguards to the accused's rights. In countries which have Bill of Rights, Human Rights Act or are party to some Human Rights treaty, any conviction have to take account of the rights of the accused. Every country has laws which are rather similar with the Multimedia Act but to convict those countries which have laws and convention to safeguard human rights, the courts have to balance out the law and the person's rights. This is why Bill of Rights or Human Rights Act are important. If Malaysia follows somthing similar with the European Convention of Human Rights, the detention under ISA breaches the ECHR on right to a fair trial. Even slander and libel laws have to comply with human rights.
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written by Watchdog, May 02, 2008 14:34:49
Why waste timewith this charade????
kids are kidnapped, people are murdered and you cant solve the mysteries yet you got time to go after RPK!!!! This is how taxpayers' money is wasted.
written by Watchdog, May 02, 2008 14:34:49
Why waste timewith this charade???? kids are kidnapped, people are murdered and you cant solve the mysteries yet you got time to go after RPK!!!! This is how taxpayers' money is wasted.
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written by AsamLaksa, May 02, 2008 14:30:02
written by AsamLaksa, May 02, 2008 14:30:02
It would come down to proving intention to make a conviction. So, it's how widely the court would interpret intention. This is because you can practically charge any person for the above act and you will find many bloggers including from BN committing the act per se (TDM is one similar example).
Here's a quick 101 on criminal law. Almost all crimes have 2 components, the act (actus reus) and intent (mens rea). The act is whatever the wrongful act is, for example the act above it's transmitting obscene, offensive, indecent, false, menacing publication. Then the second part is the intent. In this case the intention is intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass another person. Thus to get a conviction under section 233(1)(a), both components need to be fulfilled. You have to apply the specific act and intent for convictions under other sections of the act, so conviction under section 233(2) would require different act and intent than 233(1)(a). Just read the words carefully and you can get a rough idea how it works.
The act component is very wide and most bloggers from TDM to RPK fulfils it. The intent part is contentious and we do not know how widely the court will view it.
Another example of the relationship between act and intent is in a charge of murder versus manslaughter. Murder is basically killing with intent and manslaughter is killing without intent. So, a person who innocently throws a rock over the cliff without prior knowledge of anyone below and kills the person below, he commits the act but no intent to kill as his intent was to randomly throw a rock over the cliff, thus a manslaughter conviction rather than murder. Whereas a person who knows that people often walk beneath the cliff and intents to hurt people, and accidentally kills someone, he can be convicted for murder as the intent for murder is not just intention to kill but also include intention to cause harm to others.
It will be interesting if this gets to court.
Here's a quick 101 on criminal law. Almost all crimes have 2 components, the act (actus reus) and intent (mens rea). The act is whatever the wrongful act is, for example the act above it's transmitting obscene, offensive, indecent, false, menacing publication. Then the second part is the intent. In this case the intention is intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass another person. Thus to get a conviction under section 233(1)(a), both components need to be fulfilled. You have to apply the specific act and intent for convictions under other sections of the act, so conviction under section 233(2) would require different act and intent than 233(1)(a). Just read the words carefully and you can get a rough idea how it works.
The act component is very wide and most bloggers from TDM to RPK fulfils it. The intent part is contentious and we do not know how widely the court will view it.
Another example of the relationship between act and intent is in a charge of murder versus manslaughter. Murder is basically killing with intent and manslaughter is killing without intent. So, a person who innocently throws a rock over the cliff without prior knowledge of anyone below and kills the person below, he commits the act but no intent to kill as his intent was to randomly throw a rock over the cliff, thus a manslaughter conviction rather than murder. Whereas a person who knows that people often walk beneath the cliff and intents to hurt people, and accidentally kills someone, he can be convicted for murder as the intent for murder is not just intention to kill but also include intention to cause harm to others.
It will be interesting if this gets to court.
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written by dinsmann, May 02, 2008 14:18:49
written by dinsmann, May 02, 2008 14:18:49
di doakan RPK terus mendapat kekuatan untuk terus berjuang demi kebenaran dan keadilan. not many men have your courage in the face of adversity. hidup PR
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written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, May 02, 2008 14:07:11
written by HARIMAU BIN ABDULLAH, May 02, 2008 14:07:11
Na-shit dan Rose sudah kena hantu Altantuya. Tak lama dua-dua akan masuk Tg Rambutan.
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written by Lipanbara, May 02, 2008 13:47:04
written by Lipanbara, May 02, 2008 13:47:04
subjudice..yes that what they call..BUT I thought RPK wishes echoed that of Mr Sharibuu as well? Of coz any father would wish his daughter's killer be sent to Hell...What? you want them to go to heaven instead?
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written by Ben, May 02, 2008 13:44:48
written by Ben, May 02, 2008 13:44:48
I always wondered why David had to cut off Goliath's head after he had already knocked him down with his slingshot. Now I know.
The Rakyat have been patiently hoping for the government to arise to our expectations and change their ways but it looks like they don't appreciate the opportunity to make good. Instead they continue to oppress the very people who speak the truth. Hindraf is still in jail, ISA detainees continue to be incarcerated without justice or trial, RPK continue to be "questioned", Altantuya case is still pending, Badawi is still flying here and there, even with Parliament in session and we the Rakyat are still hoping. For what?
We pray merciful God deliver your people from the clutches of our oppressors and put them in the place where they belong.
The Rakyat have been patiently hoping for the government to arise to our expectations and change their ways but it looks like they don't appreciate the opportunity to make good. Instead they continue to oppress the very people who speak the truth. Hindraf is still in jail, ISA detainees continue to be incarcerated without justice or trial, RPK continue to be "questioned", Altantuya case is still pending, Badawi is still flying here and there, even with Parliament in session and we the Rakyat are still hoping. For what?
We pray merciful God deliver your people from the clutches of our oppressors and put them in the place where they belong.
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written by hibiscus22, May 02, 2008 13:30:31
written by hibiscus22, May 02, 2008 13:30:31
Pooolis, what justice you have done? Most of criminal cases solved with rakyat information, without rakyat you are nothing, just an empty uniform. Your master is rakyat remember that, trying to implicated RPK is not a very wise. Jangan cuba cuba jolok sarang sang tebuan!!!!!!
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written by Msian 2, May 02, 2008 13:20:56
written by Msian 2, May 02, 2008 13:20:56
RPK - Good to know you are safe. What kind of police force we have. RPK is not the devil. Only the the devil to the corrupted, killers and those who abuse their power to steal & create racial ill feelings. Hei policeman -- just work the many leads RPK & the bloggers have provided & you guys will have your hands full. If you cannot do that either you guys in the police are stupid or just choosing the cases to work on or under duress from the politically connect not to do anything good. Touch RPK or family, you will know the wrath of the rakyat.
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written by ChanRaj, May 02, 2008 12:48:40
written by ChanRaj, May 02, 2008 12:48:40
WARNING: DONT TEST THE RAKYAT! WE ARE BIGGER THAT YOU. RPK REPRESENTS US! HE IS SYNONYMOUS TO THE RAKYAT. TOUCH HIM AND YOU TOUCH US!
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written by sarawakian, May 02, 2008 12:25:47
written by sarawakian, May 02, 2008 12:25:47
why ask to come down on Friday?? so that if they find an excuse to arrest him, they get to keep RPK in "lokap" till Monday.
intimidation!
intimidation!
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written by mamakstail, May 02, 2008 12:16:57
written by mamakstail, May 02, 2008 12:16:57
Good! please charge RPK and let the news go international!! see who is on the loosing side. LOL!!!!
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written by foresight, May 02, 2008 12:16:03
written by foresight, May 02, 2008 12:16:03
Why the double standard ? How about investigating Mahathir under Section 233 of the Act for annoying and menacing Badawi ?
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written by spliff_roller, May 02, 2008 12:11:11
written by spliff_roller, May 02, 2008 12:11:11
"The truth is an offence, but not a sin" - Bob Marley
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written by little dragon, May 02, 2008 12:10:33
written by little dragon, May 02, 2008 12:10:33
first it was d seditions act, now it's d multimedia act. mana satu? wat is d offence la?
hv these buggers investigated d utusan n tv3's articles post-elections n also on d "babi" issue? i m sure it won't b too difficult for them to find something dat fits d bill. y practice double-standards?
hv these buggers investigated d utusan n tv3's articles post-elections n also on d "babi" issue? i m sure it won't b too difficult for them to find something dat fits d bill. y practice double-standards?
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written by ekt tan, May 02, 2008 11:47:28
written by ekt tan, May 02, 2008 11:47:28
RPK, the authorites are trying to intimidate and scare you. They are afarid of what has been exposed regarding Alantuya's case. Perhaps there is more to this case then meets the eye. Umno is using this as an excuse to shut you down as they have always felt that your blog may have played a significant part in their losses in the March GE. They need to slience you but the Rakyat is on your side. The Rakyat is not afarid to support you in your just cause to speak the 'truth'or expose wrong doings of people in power. Be strong and not let them break your spirit.
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written by nk1881, May 02, 2008 11:46:30
written by nk1881, May 02, 2008 11:46:30
Update from Rocky Bru
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http://www.rockybru.b******t.com/
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written by fikri9205, May 02, 2008 11:41:29
written by fikri9205, May 02, 2008 11:41:29
RPK has survived Kemunting.This is nothing to him.This is still a prove of "no-freedom" of media in the nation.Come on guys,what they did to RPK is like pouring petrol on fire.They had just incurred our wrath. RPK RPK RPK!
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written by delCapo, May 02, 2008 11:31:14
written by delCapo, May 02, 2008 11:31:14
At 6.30pm, 2 hours after our dear RPK entertained those buggers at Bukit Aman, he walk ed, or rather swaggered out of the gates unscathed.... big smile & in quite a jovile mood.
They couldn't break him...
Marina, Wee Choo Keong & some of the usual bloggers were there waiting with a bunch of reporters.
Everyone left shortly after exchanging some handshakes and laughs... RPK said he had 2 attend a dinner appointment... hehe... very confident from the start he wouldn't miss it.
I'll leave it to RPK to fill us in on the details....
Long Live RPK!!!!!!!!!!!!
They couldn't break him...
Marina, Wee Choo Keong & some of the usual bloggers were there waiting with a bunch of reporters.
Everyone left shortly after exchanging some handshakes and laughs... RPK said he had 2 attend a dinner appointment... hehe... very confident from the start he wouldn't miss it.
I'll leave it to RPK to fill us in on the details....
Long Live RPK!!!!!!!!!!!!
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written by msiaman, May 02, 2008 11:23:31
written by msiaman, May 02, 2008 11:23:31
Quoting the law is of no use. If by just quoting the Act means automatically get the purported person in the wrong guilty, I wonder why why I made the police did not take any action on the organization I reported?
The police told me that if I made it easy for people to commit a crime, means I do not have the right to action as I encourage the perpetrator to commit crime. Going by the same argument, I think these people through their inaction and even though through repeated volunteer of information by RPK, the police seem not interested in going after the person in suspecious circumstances. If the authorities are not able to act in the manner deem reasonable and convincing to the public, their reputation will just go further and further down the drain.
The police told me that if I made it easy for people to commit a crime, means I do not have the right to action as I encourage the perpetrator to commit crime. Going by the same argument, I think these people through their inaction and even though through repeated volunteer of information by RPK, the police seem not interested in going after the person in suspecious circumstances. If the authorities are not able to act in the manner deem reasonable and convincing to the public, their reputation will just go further and further down the drain.
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written by mei yen, May 02, 2008 11:21:45
It is not just about RPK. This being his website, he is also held responsible for all those, you know who? Those who have been making abusive remarks, foul language and name calling against ... you know ... all the minister so and so, wives of so and so and so on and so forth.
This is one reason why other bloggers take the trouble to approve comments before posting. Don't want to get into trouble with the law. RPK doesn't do that cause he believes in the freedom of commentators to voice their opinions but hey! fellas! for his sake ... THINK! before posting anything, especially when you know that what you say is going to be abusive, hurt or defame anyone.
written by mei yen, May 02, 2008 11:21:45
It is not just about RPK. This being his website, he is also held responsible for all those, you know who? Those who have been making abusive remarks, foul language and name calling against ... you know ... all the minister so and so, wives of so and so and so on and so forth.
This is one reason why other bloggers take the trouble to approve comments before posting. Don't want to get into trouble with the law. RPK doesn't do that cause he believes in the freedom of commentators to voice their opinions but hey! fellas! for his sake ... THINK! before posting anything, especially when you know that what you say is going to be abusive, hurt or defame anyone.
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written by nk1881, May 02, 2008 11:20:54
written by nk1881, May 02, 2008 11:20:54
RPK to be now charged under different Act - Communication and Multimedia Act. To be convicted under this act, need to prove that what RPK wrote is false. So it should be innocent till proven guilty right? So wait for the Altantuya trial?
Lawyers out there, pls provide advise.
Lawyers out there, pls provide advise.
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written by shan, May 02, 2008 11:10:04
written by shan, May 02, 2008 11:10:04
Dear policeman,Why are you behaving like so?Do you not have any intelligence?Are you no god fearing.,Just bcos mdm 12% complained, you guys rush over to our Big Chiefs place and create all this ruckus.What will you do when the DSAI comes to power and screws you up.Are you goning to say that,you we ordered to do so and ask for forgiveness.,.Who will forgive you?Our BIg Chief?DSAI?.,I say that even they forgive you, YOUR CONSCIENCE WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU FOR THE ATROCITIES THAT YOU CREATE,JUST BCOS YOU ARE THE CUSTODIAN OF THE LAW which is use at the whims and fancies of the custodian of MALAYIA.
Do you think we like to pass unneccessary remarks on some one who is innocent?We the people want the truth to prevail,.Many of you past superior have been in office,some good some bad,.The good ones have a beautiful harmonious life.The bad ones, well I wouldn't want to name them, bcos you can charge me for sedition,but I bet my last $$ you know who they are.,One chief of the state has a good for nothing drug addict son and another had stoke,.How to lead a normal retirement?..Touch your heart and hear to your conscion speak to you.
You are not robots and definately not dumb to hear one side of the stories only.,.Find the murders,find the green Vitara,and whatever the force is hiding from the court.,.Just b'cos the accused is a policeman,doesn't warrent the an unfair trial..,.We are looking for a new horizon,a new chapter,a new Malaysia,.for our families including yours.,.Please ,please,please,Go get the drug trafficker,thiefs,murders and solve these problems instead of pushing our DEAR BIG CHIEF RPK,.,We humbly ask you this.,.whatever happens the people are watching and god always answers the prayers of the downtrodden.
Do you think we like to pass unneccessary remarks on some one who is innocent?We the people want the truth to prevail,.Many of you past superior have been in office,some good some bad,.The good ones have a beautiful harmonious life.The bad ones, well I wouldn't want to name them, bcos you can charge me for sedition,but I bet my last $$ you know who they are.,One chief of the state has a good for nothing drug addict son and another had stoke,.How to lead a normal retirement?..Touch your heart and hear to your conscion speak to you.
You are not robots and definately not dumb to hear one side of the stories only.,.Find the murders,find the green Vitara,and whatever the force is hiding from the court.,.Just b'cos the accused is a policeman,doesn't warrent the an unfair trial..,.We are looking for a new horizon,a new chapter,a new Malaysia,.for our families including yours.,.Please ,please,please,Go get the drug trafficker,thiefs,murders and solve these problems instead of pushing our DEAR BIG CHIEF RPK,.,We humbly ask you this.,.whatever happens the people are watching and god always answers the prayers of the downtrodden.
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written by omarkhayyam, May 02, 2008 11:08:10
written by omarkhayyam, May 02, 2008 11:08:10
This is even worst than operasi lalang ...... do not allow them to silence a good man ......
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" ...... BUT this is for the future of our children we must act now
cheers
"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" ...... BUT this is for the future of our children we must act now
cheers
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written by talk3talk4, May 02, 2008 11:06:28
written by talk3talk4, May 02, 2008 11:06:28
Don't have to speculate what RPK will be charged under. U know and everyone knows what is happening now.
You never know, he may even charge him for shaking his cock more too many times after a pee and poor RPK will now be charged for masturbating under some obscure law.
You never know, he may even charge him for shaking his cock more too many times after a pee and poor RPK will now be charged for masturbating under some obscure law.
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written by fireduck, May 02, 2008 11:05:09
written by fireduck, May 02, 2008 11:05:09
Please lah, what is CCID investigating Petra for? It must be made clear under whose report or orders.
Section 233. Improper use of network facilities or network service, etc.
(1) A person who â€â€
(a) by means of any network facilities or network service or applications service knowingly â€â€
(i) makes, creates or solicits; and
(ii) initiates the transmission of,
any comment, request, suggestion or other communication which is obscene, indecent, false, menacing or offensive in character with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass another person; or
(b) initiates a communication using any applications service, whether continuously, repeatedly or otherwise, during which communication may or may not ensue, with or without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass any person at any number or electronic address,
commits an offence.
(2) A person who knowingly â€â€
(a) by means of a network service or applications service provides any obscene communication for commercial purposes to any person; or
(b) permits a network service or applications service under the person 's control to be used for an activity described in paragraph (a),
commits an offence.
(3) A person who commits an offence under this section shall, on conviction,be liable to a fine not exceeding fifty thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or to both and shall also be liable to a further fine of one thousand ringgit for every day during which the offence is continued after conviction.
OK, looks like subsection (2) is out, as I don't think there is 'commercial purposes' involved. Subsection (1) seems to be the area of interest here. Maybe the legal eagles can explain further.
But, from an ordinary Joe's point of view, there is nothing Petra wrote that is harmful unless someone feels the spiciness of the chilli padi. And he has already stated that opinions are like s-wholes - everyone has one, from the mamak stalls to the top of the ivory towers, EVERYONE has one. And I am sure Selev Shaaribuu has a strong one too. I think the least the police can do is to inform the rakyat under whose report this action was taken against RPK.
Section 233. Improper use of network facilities or network service, etc.
(1) A person who â€â€
(a) by means of any network facilities or network service or applications service knowingly â€â€
(i) makes, creates or solicits; and
(ii) initiates the transmission of,
any comment, request, suggestion or other communication which is obscene, indecent, false, menacing or offensive in character with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass another person; or
(b) initiates a communication using any applications service, whether continuously, repeatedly or otherwise, during which communication may or may not ensue, with or without disclosing his identity and with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass any person at any number or electronic address,
commits an offence.
(2) A person who knowingly â€â€
(a) by means of a network service or applications service provides any obscene communication for commercial purposes to any person; or
(b) permits a network service or applications service under the person 's control to be used for an activity described in paragraph (a),
commits an offence.
(3) A person who commits an offence under this section shall, on conviction,be liable to a fine not exceeding fifty thousand ringgit or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year or to both and shall also be liable to a further fine of one thousand ringgit for every day during which the offence is continued after conviction.
OK, looks like subsection (2) is out, as I don't think there is 'commercial purposes' involved. Subsection (1) seems to be the area of interest here. Maybe the legal eagles can explain further.
But, from an ordinary Joe's point of view, there is nothing Petra wrote that is harmful unless someone feels the spiciness of the chilli padi. And he has already stated that opinions are like s-wholes - everyone has one, from the mamak stalls to the top of the ivory towers, EVERYONE has one. And I am sure Selev Shaaribuu has a strong one too. I think the least the police can do is to inform the rakyat under whose report this action was taken against RPK.
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written by SocratesI, May 02, 2008 10:58:38
written by SocratesI, May 02, 2008 10:58:38
Where the PPPA muzzles Press and Media freedom, the ISA and OSA are used now with the Multimedia Act to muzzle anyone who has access to the Internet and a mobile network, and of course the Seditions Act muzzles free speech.
This is the tyrannical Barisan Najis Govt. and the legacy of Maha-Shithead and perpetuated by Bodohwi. It is time to replace this Govt. and all its self-serving b*stard members pronto !! OUT WITH BN !! PR TAKE OVER, NOW !!
This is the tyrannical Barisan Najis Govt. and the legacy of Maha-Shithead and perpetuated by Bodohwi. It is time to replace this Govt. and all its self-serving b*stard members pronto !! OUT WITH BN !! PR TAKE OVER, NOW !!
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written by whiteheart, May 02, 2008 10:55:42
written by whiteheart, May 02, 2008 10:55:42
Is this the beginning of Malaysia Rouge ala Khmer Rouge? Will the perpetrators receive retribution when they are 90 years old and many innocents have to die first? Will the People prevails as in Phillipines Peoples Power or ends up murdered liked in Myanmar? When injustice rules, is it the will of God because the people have sin and deserved such punishment? Can DSAI make a difference? Will heroes and martyrs emerge in this time of hopelessness? As I know not the answers to this questions, being a coward I am, I have decided to migrate.
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written by ngiuchap, May 02, 2008 10:55:05
written by ngiuchap, May 02, 2008 10:55:05
Too ALL bloggers, readers and supporters of MT, please pray for the safe return of RPK. This is the best we can do if we cannot be with him physically.
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written by IbnAbdHalim, May 02, 2008 10:54:38
written by IbnAbdHalim, May 02, 2008 10:54:38
The people are with you Pete. You've gone through the worst and you'll pass through this. None can harm you unless Allah The Almighty permits.
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written by Capt Siva, May 02, 2008 10:54:26
written by Capt Siva, May 02, 2008 10:54:26
with the case of the raba-raba ex-minister still in full swing, there may be an attempt by the no.1 to influence and use raja petra to crush the no.2 so that the no.1's position is unassailable.
the police and other internal security bodies are under the no.1.
this may be an opportune time for the no.1 to damage no.2 without taking out the trump card of soild evidence held by no.1 against no.2.
it sounds feasible.
if i were in the no.1's place, this is something i would consider
the police and other internal security bodies are under the no.1.
this may be an opportune time for the no.1 to damage no.2 without taking out the trump card of soild evidence held by no.1 against no.2.
it sounds feasible.
if i were in the no.1's place, this is something i would consider
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written by Capt Siva, May 02, 2008 10:49:57
written by Capt Siva, May 02, 2008 10:49:57
Can we, the supporters of TRUTH and Raja Petra do anything for him.
Petition, gathering, marching, whatever lah.
Can Raja Petra's colleagues in arms lead us, the readers, in any way to secure that Raja Petra's rights are not trampled underfoot like so much dog-poo.
Please tell us what to do and we'll be there.
it's a weekend, we can go anywhere.
Please HELP us to help the VOICE OF TRUTH.
Petition, gathering, marching, whatever lah.
Can Raja Petra's colleagues in arms lead us, the readers, in any way to secure that Raja Petra's rights are not trampled underfoot like so much dog-poo.
Please tell us what to do and we'll be there.
it's a weekend, we can go anywhere.
Please HELP us to help the VOICE OF TRUTH.
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written by chin, May 02, 2008 10:45:28
written by chin, May 02, 2008 10:45:28
This act pretty much makes everyone in cyberspace a criminal. Suggestion, comments, that annoy, harass...
Does threatening to sue also constitute a threat? If so, the DPM spokesman should be arrested as well.
Hell, anybody who has participated in a flame is guilty. Or send a nasty e-mail.
Then this act is there to suppress all forms of free thought or speech. And used selectively by the government to terrorize anybody they don't like. It applies to almost everybody........
Does threatening to sue also constitute a threat? If so, the DPM spokesman should be arrested as well.
Hell, anybody who has participated in a flame is guilty. Or send a nasty e-mail.
Then this act is there to suppress all forms of free thought or speech. And used selectively by the government to terrorize anybody they don't like. It applies to almost everybody........
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written by Rohani Hitam, May 02, 2008 10:45:20
written by Rohani Hitam, May 02, 2008 10:45:20
The Altatuniya trial must be conclusive and all allegations investigated first before the CCID can prefer any charges against RPK.
Any attempt by the authority to block the investigation into what RPK has alleged can be considered abuse and manipulation of power. This shall be open to judiciary examination regardless who takes over the mandate to govern the country in the near future.
Any attempt by the authority to block the investigation into what RPK has alleged can be considered abuse and manipulation of power. This shall be open to judiciary examination regardless who takes over the mandate to govern the country in the near future.
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written by POKKU, May 02, 2008 10:39:04
written by POKKU, May 02, 2008 10:39:04
I'm cofused,what is RPK been investigate for??? Sedition??? Multimidia??? or what???
maybe we better have silent movie like during charlie chaplin's day... everybody is free to make their own guess.... and nobody get arrested.
maybe we better have silent movie like during charlie chaplin's day... everybody is free to make their own guess.... and nobody get arrested.
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written by cartman26, May 02, 2008 10:38:45
written by cartman26, May 02, 2008 10:38:45
RPK,
You are the man. You've got them peeing in their pants, that is why they are looking for you. May god be with you.
You are the man. You've got them peeing in their pants, that is why they are looking for you. May god be with you.
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written by RitchieLow, May 02, 2008 10:35:28
written by RitchieLow, May 02, 2008 10:35:28
I just don't see how the CCID can charge RPK under those listed acts, if they can then they ought also to charge all those behind posts by NST, Star, Utusan that are in the same vein or worst. We never gave it a second thought as seditious or contravenes the above act. Guess, I'll have my eyes peeled from now on and quote them here.
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written by Windchime, May 02, 2008 10:33:36
written by Windchime, May 02, 2008 10:33:36
Aonther attempt to silence the voice of the people! As they say, the truth will prevail. And when that happens, may god have mercy on these perpetrators.
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written by Amadas, May 02, 2008 10:32:34
written by Amadas, May 02, 2008 10:32:34
RPK,
You are a real warrior and defender for the TRUTH and may ALLAH protects you and punish the real murderers and send them back to hell!!
You are a real warrior and defender for the TRUTH and may ALLAH protects you and punish the real murderers and send them back to hell!!
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written by raven1958, May 02, 2008 10:29:26
written by raven1958, May 02, 2008 10:29:26
The straw that broke the camel's back.....the PR will be in power sooner then later.....
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written by malaysia devil, May 02, 2008 10:29:11
written by malaysia devil, May 02, 2008 10:29:11
History of Police Brutality, Shootings and Deaths in Custody
Malaysia abstained from voting to activate the Optional Protocol to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel and Unusual Treatment 1984.
read more at: http://malaysianindian1.b*****...tings.html
Malaysia abstained from voting to activate the Optional Protocol to the United Nations Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel and Unusual Treatment 1984.
read more at: http://malaysianindian1.b*****...tings.html
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written by greenarrow, May 02, 2008 10:28:03
written by greenarrow, May 02, 2008 10:28:03
When you dont speak the TRUTH..people reject you
When you had spoken the TRUTH...many may not agreed with you..even the Authority poach you down
-Greenarrow writes
When you had spoken the TRUTH...many may not agreed with you..even the Authority poach you down
-Greenarrow writes
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written by mikewang, May 02, 2008 10:25:07
written by mikewang, May 02, 2008 10:25:07
".....any comment, request, suggestion or other communication which is obscene, indecent, false, menacing or offensive in character with intent to annoy, abuse, threaten or harass another person; or..."
Basically I don't think anyone here find anything offensive or obscene with RPK posts unless, of course, they want to nail him for using the four letter words in utter frustration and exasperation of our system.
If you make a police report against someone who libel against you, the police will not take up the case but will instead advise you to sue the slanderer in a civil court.
That was what Rahman Talib did in the '60s.
However, he lost.
The honourable gentleman subsequently resigned from TAR's cabinet.
Basically I don't think anyone here find anything offensive or obscene with RPK posts unless, of course, they want to nail him for using the four letter words in utter frustration and exasperation of our system.
If you make a police report against someone who libel against you, the police will not take up the case but will instead advise you to sue the slanderer in a civil court.
That was what Rahman Talib did in the '60s.
However, he lost.
The honourable gentleman subsequently resigned from TAR's cabinet.
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written by macaufan, May 02, 2008 10:21:38
written by macaufan, May 02, 2008 10:21:38
last year wen Mohd Mohd Taik make polis repot against RPK, MT has got half million hits ! RPK thanks d polis & Mohd Taik !
Now with d latest Najis & Rosmahai polis repot.... RPK will gonna thanks them for MT hitting > 1mil hits !
at d end of d day....... wat's d polis investigation end up? tadak... apa pun tadak....? wasting public money & time only ! hooi.... polis, kalau ada masa lebih baik pigi tangkap penjenayah.
Now with d latest Najis & Rosmahai polis repot.... RPK will gonna thanks them for MT hitting > 1mil hits !
at d end of d day....... wat's d polis investigation end up? tadak... apa pun tadak....? wasting public money & time only ! hooi.... polis, kalau ada masa lebih baik pigi tangkap penjenayah.
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written by leonardo, May 02, 2008 10:18:57
written by leonardo, May 02, 2008 10:18:57
Fellows, in order to help ensure RAJA PETRA KAMARUDIN 's safety, we will keep giving our comments not only on this blog, but on as many other blogs as we can, we want to keep him under biggest exposure possible.
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written by Kathy, May 02, 2008 10:16:55
written by Kathy, May 02, 2008 10:16:55
If the judiciary has been doing its job this matter would have been cleared up by now. Looks like someone is playing for time here.
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written by apa jadi, May 02, 2008 10:13:52
written by apa jadi, May 02, 2008 10:13:52
I skipped that article when RPK published it. I really get bored with the whole issue, where we know where justice lies.
But after this news broke out. I revisited the article. I don't find anything seditious. So, where is the catch line?
Reading through the sect 233 attached here, I am afraid there are in that case many blog articles that contravene the act. Why only RPK then? In fact, RPK can make charges against some blogs that are offensive towards him too.
My take is, sue RPK for a few hundreds of millions for those who know they are clean. Why don't they?
But after this news broke out. I revisited the article. I don't find anything seditious. So, where is the catch line?
Reading through the sect 233 attached here, I am afraid there are in that case many blog articles that contravene the act. Why only RPK then? In fact, RPK can make charges against some blogs that are offensive towards him too.
My take is, sue RPK for a few hundreds of millions for those who know they are clean. Why don't they?
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written by shamadz72, May 02, 2008 10:12:44
written by shamadz72, May 02, 2008 10:12:44
RPK is really a master of strategies. By writing a provoking article and baits his opponent to take action against him is just a pure publicity stunt to ensure it will gain wider publicity. I bet now more and more people is flocking Malaysia-Today at the time I am writing this comment to get more information on what this whole thing is.
Kuddos to RPK. I salute you my man. Just tell us how we can help you out!
Kuddos to RPK. I salute you my man. Just tell us how we can help you out!
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written by sitiawan, May 02, 2008 10:03:39
written by sitiawan, May 02, 2008 10:03:39
At this rally in Kampung Baru in late 1987, the politician who is now the Deputy Prime Minister was seen with the crowd that was already hot-tempered. We will recall that the banners and slogans shouted then included warnings such as ‘May 13 Will Happen Again’ and vain boasts such as ‘This Keris Will Drink Chinese Blood’.
Is this not SEDITIOUS?
RPK Seditious? Hogwash!!!
Is this not SEDITIOUS?
RPK Seditious? Hogwash!!!
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written by justme bc, May 02, 2008 10:03:08
written by justme bc, May 02, 2008 10:03:08
Dear RPK, you are not alone on your journey to justice, righteousness, we are all behind you. If they dare to touch a single strand of your hair without any justification, the people's power will nail their coffins and sent them to hell together with the muderers of Altantuya.
Hidup RPK, hidup Malaysia today, hidup bangsa Malaysia.
Cheers for a better Malaysia for our children!!!
Hidup RPK, hidup Malaysia today, hidup bangsa Malaysia.
Cheers for a better Malaysia for our children!!!
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written by Debbie, May 02, 2008 10:02:56
written by Debbie, May 02, 2008 10:02:56
RPK did only quote the news from the on going investigations of those oxymoron officers and some peoples' slip of the toungue which came out in the so called fair and transparent media.
Seditious ..up urs .
Seditious ..up urs .
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written by redwine, May 02, 2008 10:01:21
written by redwine, May 02, 2008 10:01:21
may God bless you and save you from the evil people. Amin.
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written by SocratesI, May 02, 2008 09:59:57
written by SocratesI, May 02, 2008 09:59:57
It is obvious who is behind this police attack on RPK - Najis of course, and his Rots-MaHai. After finding out that they can't get RPK with the Seditions Act, they are now trying to find all sorts of statutes to try and throw the book at RPK to either put him away or shut him up through intimidation.
The police would do better to investigate further the owner of the green Vitara and widen their net to include the people who gave the order to the police Special Forces to kill Altantuya, rather than trying to intimidate and harrass RPK. Shameless Najis lackeys !!
DSAI, take over the Govt. and send these people to the Hell they belong, and as for Najis and Rots-MaHai, send them to Mongolia, and replace the pair of buffalos that plough the land with them. They have so much natural Najis to fertilize the fields !!
The police would do better to investigate further the owner of the green Vitara and widen their net to include the people who gave the order to the police Special Forces to kill Altantuya, rather than trying to intimidate and harrass RPK. Shameless Najis lackeys !!
DSAI, take over the Govt. and send these people to the Hell they belong, and as for Najis and Rots-MaHai, send them to Mongolia, and replace the pair of buffalos that plough the land with them. They have so much natural Najis to fertilize the fields !!
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written by slash n burn, May 02, 2008 09:55:34
written by slash n burn, May 02, 2008 09:55:34
Dear RPK, one thing for sure is those who persecute you with blind injustice will be reunited with Altantunya's killer in hell. God Bless.
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written by zul4kulim, May 02, 2008 09:51:59
written by zul4kulim, May 02, 2008 09:51:59
Does this clause mean, it covers any country that host the servers?
a) by means of any network facilities or network service or applications service
http://1426.b******t.com/2008/...vices.html
a) by means of any network facilities or network service or applications service
http://1426.b******t.com/2008/...vices.html
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written by sjeevan, May 02, 2008 09:51:23
"Yes, I am a very emotional person as many may have suspected by now. But I can also be very stubborn and stiff-lipped as well when facing an adversary, as the Special Branch officers from Bukit Aman have discovered. And I would not hesitate to deny my body food and water as an act of defiance just to prove to my jailors that they may incarcerate my body but they can never own my mind or break my spirit."
RPK IS NO ORDINARY PERSON! THE POLICE SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO A MAN WHO'S IS SO REVERED BY HIS COUNTRYMEN
THE REAL BATTLE BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND RPK HAS BEGUN!
THE AUTHORITY HAS INSTIGATED THE POLICE AGAINST THE PEOPLE!
HISTORY HAS PROVEN, THE ULTIMATE VICTORS WILL BE THE PEOPLE!
NOTHING IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PEOPLE’S POWER!
LET US RISE AND FIGHT THESE FORCES OF TYRANNY !
LET THE GENERATION AFTER US LIVE IN A PEACEFUL MALAYSIA!
written by sjeevan, May 02, 2008 09:51:23
"Yes, I am a very emotional person as many may have suspected by now. But I can also be very stubborn and stiff-lipped as well when facing an adversary, as the Special Branch officers from Bukit Aman have discovered. And I would not hesitate to deny my body food and water as an act of defiance just to prove to my jailors that they may incarcerate my body but they can never own my mind or break my spirit."
RPK IS NO ORDINARY PERSON! THE POLICE SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN DOING WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO A MAN WHO'S IS SO REVERED BY HIS COUNTRYMEN
THE REAL BATTLE BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND RPK HAS BEGUN!
THE AUTHORITY HAS INSTIGATED THE POLICE AGAINST THE PEOPLE!
HISTORY HAS PROVEN, THE ULTIMATE VICTORS WILL BE THE PEOPLE!
NOTHING IS MORE POWERFUL THAN THE PEOPLE’S POWER!
LET US RISE AND FIGHT THESE FORCES OF TYRANNY !
LET THE GENERATION AFTER US LIVE IN A PEACEFUL MALAYSIA!
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y u guys till now has not weak up? umno rejim days r numbered, y u guys still b their lap-dog? d whole nation got no respect to polis ! tak malu ke jadi polis macam ni? bangun & bekerja dgn penuh integrity ! jangan jadi lap-dog corrupted rejim umno lagi.