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Wednesday, 21 May 2008 18:49

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My grandmother, Tengku Badariah, who married her cousin, Raja Sir Tun Uda, was one of the 44 children of Sultan Ala’eddin Suleiman Shah and was the elder sister of Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah, the Sixth Sultan of Selangor and Second Agong.

NO HOLDS BARRED

Raja Petra Kamarudin 

Selangor now has a new state government after more than fifty years of Merdeka but the new State Assemblymen and women, plus the Members of Parliament and EXCO Members from Pakatan Rakyat, appear a bit ignorant of Selangor’s history. It can be expected (and forgiven) if the man-on-the-street (or woman, as the case may be) does not know much about Selangor history. But those in government would be expected to know at least the skimpy details of the state's history.

First of all, Selangor territory used to include Negeri Sembilan and part of Perak extending to Kampar and Tapah. Due to the ‘war’ between Selangor and Perak (over the rich tin fields in that area), the British decided to redraw the Perak-Selangor boundary. To make it easy for everyone and to avoid future territorial disputes, the Bernam River was adopted as the new state boundary, thus ‘shrinking’ Selangor a wee bit.

Negeri Sembilan was ‘annexed’ after the Chinese massacred all the Malays, including Raja Busu and his entire family, in Lukut in 1834. Later on, Kuala Lumpur and Perang Besar were also annexed. Kuala Lumpur is the Federal Capital of Malaysia while Perang Besar was renamed Putrajaya and is now Malaysia’s administrative capital.

Selangor used to be under the protection of the Sultan of Perak until 1766 when Sultan Mahmud Shah, the 16th Sultan of Perak, installed Raja Lumu as Sultan Salehuddin Shah, the First Sultan of Selangor. Raja Lumu was the son of Daeng Chelak, the Second Yamtuan Muda of Riau. Daeng Chelak, in turn, was the son of Upu Tenribong Daeng Rilaka, the Raja of Riau, who was in turn the son of Upu Lamadusalat.

Sultan Ibrahim Shah succeeded his father, Raja Lumu, as the Second Sultan of Selangor in 1778. Sultan Ibrahim Shah had 23 children from his four wives but it was Sultan Muhamad Shah from his third wife (Che Halijah Maharaja Lela Hussain) who succeeded him as the Third Sultan of Selangor.

Sultan Muhamad Shah had twelve children. However, the Fourth Sultan of Selangor was his nephew, Sultan Abdul Samad, son of Raja Abdullah (Tengku Panglima Besar), who was the younger half-brother of Sultan Muhamad Shah from Sultan Ibrahim Shah’s fourth wife.

Sultan Abdul Samad had seven children, none who succeeded him as Sultan. The Fifth Sultan of Selangor, Sultan Ala’eddin Suleiman Shah, was his grandson from his eldest son, Raja Muda Musa. Raja Muda Musa died on 7 July 1884 while Sultan Ala’eddin Suleiman Shah ascended the throne on 1 August 1898.

Sultan Ala’eddin Suleiman Shah, the Sixth Sultan of Selangor, had ten wives and 44 children (my grandmother, Tengku Badariah, who married her cousin Raja Sir Tun Uda, was one of the 44 children and was the elder sister of Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah). Due to British intervention, Sultan Abdul Samad’s eldest son from his first wife, Tengku Musa’eddin, was not allowed to ascend the throne. Instead, Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah became the Seventh Sultan of Selangor in 1938 but was removed by the Japanese in 1942.

Tengku Musa’eddin ruled from 1942 to 1945 as Sultan Ghiathuddin Riayat Shah after which Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah was given back the throne when the Japanese surrendered in 1945. Tengku Musa’eddin was then sent into exile in the Cocos Islands but was allowed to come home ten years later where he died in Kelang in 1955 without leaving any heirs.

Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah became the Second Agong in 1960 and died that same year after which his son, Sultan Salahuddin Abdul Aziz Shah, became the Eighth Sultan of Selangor. Sultan Sharafuddin Idris Shah, the present Sultan of Selangor, is the Ninth Sultan of Selangor.

Over the last 40 years, Selangor has had 14 Chief Ministers (Menteri Besar), seven appointed and seven elected.

The seven appointed Chief Ministers are:

1.    Dato’ Hamzah Bin Abdullah (1948-1949)
2.    Raja Sir Tun Uda Al-Haj Bin Raja Mohamad (1949-1953 and 1954-1955)
3.    Dato’ Othman Bin Mohamad (1953-1954)
4.    Tun Dr Abdul Aziz Bin Hj Abdul Majid (1955-1956)
5.    Tuan Muhammad Ismail Bin Abdul Latiff (1956-1958)
6.    Tan Sri Abdul Jamil Bin Abdul Rais (1958-1959)
7.    Dato Abu Bakar Bin Baginda (1959-1964)

The seven elected Chief Ministers are:

1.    Dato’ Seri Hj Harun Bin Idris (1964-1976)
2.    Dato Haji Hormat Bin Rafei (1976-1982)
3.    Tan Sri Dato Hj Ahmad Razali Bin Haji Mohd Ali (1982-1986)
4.    Tan Sri Dato Haji Muhammad Bin Haji Mohamad Taib (1986-1997)
5.    Dato Seri (Dr) Haji Abu Hassan Bin Haji Omar (1997-2000)
6.    Dato Seri Dr Mohamad Khir Bin Toyo (2000-2008)
7.    Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim (2008- )

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written by FHaq, May 21, 2008 | 19:02:51
Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim (2008-2016 )Two Terms (thats it no more )
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written by R Hum, May 21, 2008 | 19:03:51
Thanks for the history. How come when I was in secondary school, we were not taught all these .

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written by junjun40, May 21, 2008 | 19:09:06
RPK sir, thanks for the insight.
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written by MsLim, May 21, 2008 | 19:12:38
Dear Raja Petra,
I trust 101% what you write. Of course you are a Prince of true royal blood. Even if you are not, I really do not care. That good-for-nothing who said that you are a commoner.. ah.. just treat him as an ignorant fool. Somehow I know in my heart that you will give him a good education on the Selangor Royal Family.

It's somewhat complicated butI enjoyed reading. Thanks all the same.
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written by Richy, May 21, 2008 | 19:22:54
After reading this history of Sultanates of Selangor, I have become a bit giddy already. So many names to remember. Hope the Selangor Excos' find some time to memorize. I heard once my friend told me, in the case of Sultan Johor, he would ask the officers when they least expect about names of his predecessors and history of Johor. Many of them do homework before menghadap Tuanku.
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written by indianputra, May 21, 2008 | 19:24:31
RPK, thank you for highlighting the history of Selangor. It just crossed my mind, while reading the article, the sufferings undergone by the Royalty and the rakyat in those days and we, who are enjoying the current situation, forgets the past, the sufferiongs of people, the dedication of people, the will to move forward so that the future generation, that is us, will enjoy the bounty of the nation.

THe UMNO and BN must reflect what they are doing and understand that all or any of their actions, good or bad will affect the future generation of Malaysia.
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written by Sarjan Hasan, May 21, 2008 | 19:27:23
R Hum - i think u always ponteng kelas sejarah lah.
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written by Motherchell, May 21, 2008 | 19:28:33
WOW!Pete , you are better then any of the Phd's in History. You have explained the the space between the events in Selangor for the layman like Stephen Hawkings did to Time!!! You are truly a chip of the old block!!!
Great work Your Majesty! God Bless all your generations!!
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written by jeya, May 21, 2008 | 19:30:17
Ah So Neeh! RPK!
So this is what some so & so was trying to imply when he said u had Two Fathers!
The levels some would sink to!!!
Catch up with u soon RPK! I have been warned by "warlords/warladies" to keep away from "associating with U!
But now that I have fully grasped how to post, so expect more from moi'
Cheers, Godspeed! & love & regards to Marina & Kids { & grandkids???}
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written by daliman, May 21, 2008 | 19:39:10
should have included in our local history books. btw RPK, may i ask, who's royal grave was that in Jugra, the most dominant one by end of the road to the left?

just for our general knowledge. cant find the info in any local history books or internet?

thanks.
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written by HL Ooi, May 21, 2008 | 19:39:55
Dear RPK,
Was this Raja Abdullah the one who was involved in the 3rd Larut War? Or was it someone else?
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written by freedom lover, May 21, 2008 | 19:40:37
RPK, without any offence to you sir, the moral of the storyline I read above is:

1) marry as many women as possible
2) produce as many children as possible

Sorry sir, its against my principle. I am one woman's man and two kids is enough!
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written by orangmsia, May 21, 2008 | 19:41:13
Thanks for the history PRK.

Indeed it is very sad, after May 13, 1969 federal government took over Kuala Lumpur from Selangor. Later it was Putrajaya.
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written by Watcheyes1, May 21, 2008 | 19:42:54
YM RPK how are you sir? I hope you had recovered from your back pain. Nice to hear from you again. The Selangor history that you had writen is really a masterpiece of knowledge.

Thanks for highlighting the whole Royal history of Selangor. GOD bless you and your family YM RPK.

Take care.
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written by jganasan, May 21, 2008 | 19:47:08
Such exotic names
Daeng Chelak, Upu Tenribong Daeng Rilaka, Upu Lamadusalat.
Wonder where they originated and what was their religion. Must be before the Indian traders arrived and spread Islam amongst the rulers and all their subjects were forced to follow suit?
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written by VLeong, May 21, 2008 | 19:52:11
freedom,
Its not about your principle, but during the old days...it is about the survival and succession...making sure you have heir...etc. You will be surprised how many wives the Chinese emperor have...
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written by delCapo, May 21, 2008 | 19:56:38
Funny enuff i was at Kuala Selangor Bukit Melawati over the wekend....

The royal history of Selangor is well covered in the muzium... content of this article on a nice chart
Nice to learn some history.... also the links to the Johor & Brunei royals...

cheers, RPK
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written by raven1958, May 21, 2008 | 20:09:59
Due to British intervention, Sultan Abdul Samad’s eldest son from his first wife, Tengku Musa’eddin, was not allowed to ascend the throne. Instead, Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah became the Seventh Sultan of Selangor in 1938 but was removed by the Japanese in 1942. Tengku Musa’eddin ruled from 1942 to 1945 as Sultan Ghiathuddin Riayat Shah after which Sultan Hisamuddin Alam Shah was given back the throne when the Japanese surrendered in 1945

Only two executives had absolute powers in this country's history.......the British and Japs....
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written by cruzeiro, May 21, 2008 | 20:32:02
Very nice piece of history, RPK.

As for that guy who has a hate website against you (two now, actually) - let them bark all he wants or hang himself.
Like as if people read what you write becos of your "royal status"......

All that matters is one is good - that's a "royal" enough for me.
As for the name, it's only as good as the person that carries it.
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written by JaguhKampung, May 21, 2008 | 20:35:40
I find it odd this article of Selangor Sultanate history is posted under "No Holds Barred". Corridors of power would seemed more appropriate to me. It doesn't really matter which section this is posted, but I wonder whether this is really a historical education for the present Selangor government or something else.
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written by Negarakuku, May 21, 2008 | 20:45:01
Dear YM RPK!

Thank you for the Selangor history insight. For us you are KING. Our KING!!!

You are Che Guevara, Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Gandhi - 3 in 1 combo.
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written by me_in, May 21, 2008 | 20:51:00
To me ,it is not important if you are a commoner or a royalty.
Honesty and integrity are more important.
I only know Dato Haron Idris as I was at his residence Jalan Raja Muda during the May 13th.
A energetic college student from Technical College Jalan Gurney. The rest is history.
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written by KotaDamansara73, May 21, 2008 | 21:17:08
RPK,

What is the reason the Chinese masacre the Malays in 1834?
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written by Sagaladoola, May 21, 2008 | 21:20:17
Goodness gracious... I never learned all these when I was in school. So much is missing . I realise I learn more history , geography and politics after all my schooling days are over.. Gosh...
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Regards,
http://sagaladoola.blogspot.com
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written by teo siew chin, May 21, 2008 | 21:27:11
wohhhh that is one big royal tribe!
i hope it dont culminate into any royal P.I.A for some smilies/grin.gif

me no care about color of blood - it can be blue,green,purple
as long as it runs in good decent veins, in more ways than one!
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written by VLeong, May 21, 2008 | 21:32:25
http://www.sabrizain.demon.co.uk/malaya/sgor6.htm
Article on the Lukut Massacres
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written by benny loh, May 21, 2008 | 21:52:43
written by cruzeiro, May 21, 2008 | 20:32:02
Very nice piece of history, RPK.

As for that guy who has a hate website against you (two now, actually) - let them bark all he wants or hang himself.

The odd guy came to my site. Had only to advise him that it is common decency among bloggers to provide his genuine details at his web before RPK (or any blogger)can take him seriously
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written by acacia, May 21, 2008 | 21:59:43
Hi RPK

Quick comment: It is true that the British did use Sg Bernam to mark the boundary between Perak and Selangor, but the previous border was never that far north (i.e. Tapah and Kampar). Kampar, where I'm from, is at the southern tip of the Kinta Valley and I am familiar with the local history dating back to before the arrival of the British. Though there were never properly mapped boundaries in those days, it was definitely part of Perak by the time tin was 'discovered' (I use inverted commas because the natives always knew tin was there) and well before that.

And to answer the question by jganasan, the names sound exotic because they are Bugis names.

Nav.
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written by Daryl, May 21, 2008 | 22:01:05
I guess there will always be people there to question aalmost about everything but this definently help. Now I wish one of our ex-PM can review his family tree for all to see. If it is nothing it is just to reveiw how screw up our definition of Bumiputra. This is not seditious I hope.
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written by overseaMas, May 21, 2008 | 22:10:07
All the history in any corner of the world base on certain bias interest. Hence sad to comment that Malaysia history we learn from school actually is UMNO create history.
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written by Kritz, May 21, 2008 | 22:53:19
The Bugis Connections

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_of_Selangor
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written by Wakeupmsia, May 21, 2008 | 22:54:47
Most of us are not taught on the our States' history in general and Selangor's history in particular. We know of Parameswara, Sir Raffles, Sultan Mahmud Shah of Melaka (I think), Hang Tuah and all the Hangs.... After that - full stop - blank! Only - Merdeka! Merdeka! Merdeka!

What has our Education Ministers or the ruling Govt. of past and present been doing? Absolutely nothing constructive to enhance the comprehension of its historical value for the benefits of the future generation! HISTORY = HIS STORY! We learn from history. Do the good, discard the bad. This world will be a better place for mankind to live if we can learn from history.

Perhaps, they feel that the Royalty history is irrelevant and does not serve their political agendas. So, why 'educate' the citizens?

PRK, thanks for the article. Today, I have gained a bit more knowledge on the State of Selangor's history. Sure, my kids will know as well.
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written by adisi, May 21, 2008 | 23:24:27
Dear People of Malaysia,

Fair enough we have been spoon fed with only 1 side of the history. However, this does not stop each one of you to study more history. The point is, you all are still the spoon-fed products that was produced in the first place. History such as what RPK wrote is an example that many of us are too lazy to read on more or research by yourself. All things want to be readied in front of their eyes and then swallow the facts given and then continuously blame the government for not doing enough.

The point is, our biggest problem, as usual is the inactions and too much complaints. Go la to internet/library/reliable sources and learn history. Read on la the likes to Ahmad Bustamam, Dr Burhanuddin Hj Helmi, Pak Sako, Chin Peng, Said Zahari and the likes.

I bet after government change to Pakatan Rakyat later pun, the same noise will be made again and again because the hardest thing to change is always and has always been YOUR-BLOODY-SELF.

Semua nak harap orang lain yang tukar but sendiri tak mau improve! Bodoh kan manusia ni? Sangatlah bengong! And worst, even other people tell you a grandfather story, the ignorant person that you are will believe it 100% as a history fact. I am not saying RPK is not writing the truth but, as an example, given an input, think, process and synthesize la the info first, before deciding true or otherwise.

Self leadership is one bloody thing we Malaysians failed miserably. Thus the current situation. It's too bloody easy to blame other people but yourself.

An ayat in Quran (not sure which ayat) : Nasib sesuatu kaum (I hope you interpret this all people and not any particular race) tidak akan bertukar selagi ia sendiri tidak bertukar.

So, do you want to start to act, people? Otherwise, sambung la your complaints tu. Sampai mati pun sama ja. Inaction and incapable bunch of people! Tau complaint je.
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written by acacia, May 21, 2008 | 23:40:59
The reason we aren't taught the true history of our nation is because UMNO wants to erase all traces of non-Malay and non-Muslim historical facts from our mindset.

No where is it stated that the main religion of peninsular Malaysia used to be Hinduism, with a fair amount of Buddhism (and the old animistic practices) even though it's blatantly obvious.

The presence of Chinese and Indian communities from the days of the Malacca empire is never given prominence. Speaking of the Malacca empire, Sejarah Melayu clearly states that many of the prominent court officials were Tamil Muslims (e.g. Tun Mutahir) who were constantly vying for power with the Malay Hindu remnants (not everyone converted to Islam when the Sultan did, and the Malay Hindus still held much power). The battle for influence was eventually won by the Tamil Muslims, with the effect that the Malay Hindus got marginalised (to the point where none remained after a few generations).

Of course then there's the May 13 incident, always blaming the 'opposition' (implying it was Chinese) without mentioning the fact that weapons were handed out at the Selangor MB's residence to retaliate against the earlier demonstration (which was admittedly provocative).

Also, we learn very little of the orang asli and their history, which is a shame.
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written by johntyc, May 21, 2008 | 23:54:02
I have a question for RPK. Sultan Ala’eddin Suleiman Shah is the 5th or 6th Sultan of Selangor?
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written by cheemengwong, May 21, 2008 | 23:57:39
Wow, a revelation to me.

I was born bred in Kg. Raja Uda. My parents were married there. My grand parents settled there and my great grandparents came from China and settled there.

I did not know how the name Raja Uda was linked to so many previous royalty in Selangor.

Used to be a small kampong where I used to catch fighting fish along the longkangs. None to be found after 1976. We used to dip a rattan basket and there were plenty!!!.

The land where we settled was finally acquired by JAIS. The mosque yet to be built.

We need better Sejarah teachers. Kudos to RPK.
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written by drrafick, May 22, 2008 | 07:46:46
There is 2 conclusion here:
a. The Selangor Royal Family are actually Indonesian..
b. Going by the number of wives they have, it is interesting to find out, their actual religion.
c. This further concurred that all people are visitors to this land called "Tanah Melayu". Some came from indonesia,others came from china, india,europe etc.. We are all visitors to this land and are equal.
d. Not one race is superior than the other
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written by temenggong, May 22, 2008 | 08:11:05
In the Naning Wars 1829-1832 the British killed Dol Said and his followers who resisted British taxes. Naning is near Tampin, on the Malacca/NS border.

Lukut
http://sejarahmalaysia.pnm.my/portalBI/detail.php?ttl_id=44&spesifik_id=182&section=sm03


The Lukut Massacres were the first chinese uprising in Malaya.

The Lukut Massacres
http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/sgor6.htm


The chinese from Malacca were already present by 1630 in large numbers and were exploited by the malay rulers.
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written by eeyaw, May 22, 2008 | 08:26:15
Abang Pete,

Pleasantly surprised your change of topics to history but usually not my cup of tea and I can see the volume of response to your education to us about Selangor's Royalties.

My question is since your siblings are of blue blood do you foresee any potential in one of them becoming the Sultan in the near future?
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written by kedahan63, May 22, 2008 | 08:51:59
Whew! YM, that's some family tree you've got there. Luckily, we were never tested on our knowledge of State Royal family trees with the excepting of Parameswara and a few from Perak (whose names I've forgotten).

I can't even begin to imagine Kedah's Royal family Tree! All I can remember is Raja Bersiong because his story was turned into a movie by the late Tunku. Come to think of it, AV media is playing such a big role in our lives now, why doesn't someone convert the dry, written history of the world into an AV media. Chances are most of the urban kids would ace their exams ;-)
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written by sydput, May 22, 2008 | 09:55:30
Thanks for telling me that inter-racial massacres were normal occurence and was not entirely a malay dominated/initiated thing.
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written by RitchieLow, May 22, 2008 | 10:46:13
"Negeri Sembilan was ‘annexed’ after the Chinese massacred all the Malays, including Raja Busu and his entire family, in Lukut in 1834."

The above statement jolted my mind as it is both barbaric and graphic when envisaged. I googled it a bit and came up with this.

"In 1834, Raja Busu decided to impose a ten per cent levy on all tin extracted and exported from Lukut. This greatly angered the local Chinese miners, as well as their financial backers in Melaka. .. As survivors fled into the countryside and news of the atrocity spread, Malays in the region converged upon Lukut. The Chinese attempted to escape over the border to British Melaka - but they were ambushed and killed"

Quite clearly the Malays and Chinese were the objects of manipulation of the colonial powers then for them to benefit without having to lift a finger of their own. Aggravated animosity between the "tribes" exists till this day though the "colonial power" wears a different face now.


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written by dmh1871, May 22, 2008 | 11:53:52
The problem with us Malay is that by nature we are an accommodating race eventhough as what you've said that "Negeri Sembilan was ‘annexed’ after the Chinese massacred all the Malays, including Raja Busu and his entire family, in Lukut in 1834" and yet they can still be richest man, billionaire, bankers, Chief Minister, Minister, Excos, Fed Coa Hc Judges, High rank in the army-navy-air force-police, DGs etc and yet they still say that we the malays are not fair and start questioning our rights and privillage, talk about meritocracy, level playing field and equal distribution AI YA LU TAK TAK TAU MALU KA. what they will do when they are in power? well history tend to repeat it self, think about it WAHAI ORANG-ORANG MELAYU
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written by Farmer, May 22, 2008 | 12:28:11
for those who missed the history. Dont worry, the History will repeat in near future. U can witness it.
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written by acacia, May 22, 2008 | 12:38:07
dmh1871: The UMNO-dominated BN is not fair at the moment. I will not deny that the Malays are an accommodating race, but this is changing over time. Since the NEP, UMNO has made Malays think that it is their right ... just so that UMNO-putras can get all the sweet deals and contracts. There is active discrimination in all the GLCs and public services. No doubt about it, just ask anyone who works there. Malays seem to think it doesn't exist ... just like the Chinese in Singapore seem to think there aren't any pro-Chinese policies there (at least we're more open about in Malaysia).
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written by Al Ambia, May 22, 2008 | 12:57:08
RPK,Now I know where you got your guts.Its in the blood.You are one of a kind,Keep up the good work
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written by adam, May 22, 2008 | 13:59:43
Dear YM Raja Petra,

Whoever you are, it does not matters to me.
Whatever you are doing now for the raayat matters most to me.

Hope you are in good health and may God bless you and family.
take care .
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written by cheekhiaw, May 22, 2008 | 14:19:23
The problem with the Malay that said that the Malays ‘is’ (sic) by nature an accommodating race "even though as what they said that "Negeri Sembilan was ‘annexed’ after the Chinese massacred all the Malays, including Raja Busu and his entire family, in Lukut in 1834"", is that he conveniently omitted saying that all the Chinamen that committed that monstrous act were 'all killed' by Malays which is perhaps more than just a very accommodating way to accommodate a reverse massacre.

And he say the Malays (as if all including those like him is really that nice) can accommodate other people “who can still be richest man, billionaire, bankers, Chief Minister, Minister, Excos, Fed Coa Hc Judges, High rank in the army-navy-air force-police, DGs etc”, as if all the Chinese in Malaysia participated in and supported the said massacre, and their future is the dictate of some arrogant self-proclaimed accommodator boss like him that claims to speak for all accommodating Malays.

And he yet say that the Chinese, presumably, still say that the Malays (presumably including himself) “are not fair and start questioning their rights and privillage (sic)”, as if those aspects (the one newly created by him may be telling) are exclusive to the Malays, and positions in life are to be apportioned by people like him by way of counting colors and no need to involve aspects like learning, diligence, endeavor etc. which he seems to have no accommodation for.

And he complains about “talk about meritocracy, level playing field and equal distribution” as if they are all one and the same thereby making his accommodative claims and ability to accommodate the very concepts he waves around suspect.

He finally warns that “well history tend to repeat it self, think about it”, and with “WAHAI ORANG-ORANG MELAYU” as if exhorting all Malays to accommodate his devilish hope that the kind of situation (massacre and killing) that started his dubious accommodative claims would again visit this land.

Such a vile idiot whatever else he may pretend to be finds no accommodation in the domain of the civilized..

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written by cheekhiaw, May 22, 2008 | 14:27:07
Perhaps to that idiot, the new term 'privillage' was meant to accommodate his concept of 'privileged pillage'.

Most telling...

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written by conteng, May 22, 2008 | 15:18:15
YM Raja Petra,

Names that you've mentioned in your articles seemed all too familiar from my school history books. However you've managed to fill in the times gaps. For one I did not know that the Selangor Sultanate was installed by Perak.

We have no right to intrude into your family history and make disrespectful comments. Ampun Tuanku.

It is interesting to know that even though coming from a migrant background (being chinese) and all I am involved in and able to garner the culture and the food of this blessed land. I am Malaysian and I am proud to be branded as one no matter where I go.

The richness of the Malay Legacy has been wiped out totally blinded only by money.(by certain quarters) Progress is important, however we still need to look back at where we started and see how far we have deviated from our values in life. That being our culture and traditions. The Malaysian Hospitality is not a dream but a fact long forgotten, hustle and bustle in the city life will make us forget of what we truly are. I remember the days where neighbours would receive you in open arms even it was an inappropriate hour, now Malaysians have grown weary of each other. Through misdeeds by those charged with power, money politics and the list goes on.

The current society status did not come overnight, it is like waves that carved the 12 apostles along the Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia. Bit by bit that the damage was done and subsequently segregate us as a nation of multiracial / cultural society. However lucky for us, we are living human beings, we will not stand there and wait for the waves to cut a piece of us bit by bit, we will move away from this segregation to be truly one nation one voice.
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written by Super Admin, May 22, 2008 | 15:45:34
Dear RPK,

Reference to article “A Little Bit of Selangor History”, Dato’ Abu Bakar bin Baginda was the first elected Chief Minister of Selangor. On YM Tengku Abdul Rahman’s suggestion, he resigned from the Police Force to stand for the General Elections at that time, and having won was made the First MB. Your correction to this wee bit of information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.



Shamsul Bahar
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written by puchonguy, May 22, 2008 | 16:02:24
Dear friends,

I seem to have missed something: did someone in the Selangor PR government make disparaging remarks against RPK and question his ancestry, hence triggering this article? I have tried to find any news articles on this matter but have failed. What happened? Who made the remarks?

Thanks,
A Puchong Guy
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written by inoi, May 22, 2008 | 17:32:28
Daulat Tuanku.
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written by jivan, May 22, 2008 | 17:39:21
Thanks RPK.

OK Pakatan Rakyat, please study & do your homework. We believe in you, don't let us down.

Hidup Rakyat!
Kuasa Rakyat! Makkal Sakti!
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written by thinker50s, May 22, 2008 | 18:36:49
written by drrafick, May 22, 2008 | 07:46:46
There is 2 conclusion here:
a. The Selangor Royal Family are actually Indonesian..
b. Going by the number of wives they have, it is interesting to find out, their actual religion.
c. This further concurred that all people are visitors to this land called "Tanah Melayu". Some came from indonesia,others came from china, india,europe etc.. We are all visitors to this land and are equal.
d. Not one race is superior than the other

Totally agreed with drraflick, we're all visitors to this land and there is no 'ketuanan' this or that.
Justice for all!!!!!! Long live RPK. Keep the truth coming!!! You're the man.
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written by kksam, May 22, 2008 | 18:47:55
Dear dmh1871, because of people like you BN is so arrogant to the point they declared they can stay in power for another 50 years. Yes thanks to you. FIKIR BAIK-BAIK LA WAHAI RAKYAT MALAYSIA. SAY NO TO RACISM SAY NO TO BN, KATAKAN TAK NAK!!!!
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written by gorshan, May 22, 2008 | 19:33:58
and now perhaps a history too of the indian muslim in malaysia and how they come to be position of powers today?
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written by Blackgiring, May 22, 2008 | 21:46:16
...RPK please tell us a bit about the pirate and hooligans behaviour some of the Royal family....
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written by cheekhiaw, May 22, 2008 | 21:51:51
MUSLIM TALK

and now perhaps a history too of the indian muslim in malaysia and how they come to be position of powers today?

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the same ways the Turks became the lords of the Sunnis and the Monggols that of the Shias...

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written by lord, May 23, 2008 | 07:21:24
first malay viceroy of Selangor, Tengku Kudin and Tunku Dia Udin, are they both the same person?
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written by chin, May 23, 2008 | 13:46:55
This article has got me googling selangor, Perak and Negri sembilan's history.

A lot of strife and war over its 300 years of history since the Chinese migrated here in large numbers. Malay sultans fighting each other with and without the help of rival Chinese gangs. Sometimes even with Indian and Arab mercenaries, and a comical incident of these mercenaries running away after one was killed. Chinese gangs massacring each other over territories. Bugis princes joining the fray with or without invitation.

Actually given the size of the Chinese population at the time of our independence, there would have been a serious threat of civil war if no agreement was reached. Our Chinese ancestors in Malaysia weren't as peaceful as we would have liked. I guess the Chinese and Malays in Malaysia are descended from pretty violence stock somewhat like Australia.

But even with the isolated incident with Raja Bongsu in Lukut, the Chinese miners were generally aligned to one sultan or the other. Chinese have a long history of allegiance to kings.

Our rich history should be great material for local made movies.
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written by shiokguy, May 24, 2008 | 17:17:25
Dear YM RPK
Do you have the family tree with picture?
I am kind of loss after 3 paragraphs.

Shiok Guy
http://shiokguy.blogspot.com/
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written by mambogan, May 28, 2008 | 16:46:25
YM RPK,

i take my hats off for you. the guts you posses. so informative and detail. the government thinks that the public is still a fool. they do not realise that we have already achieved 50 years of independence, most are educated and very much exposed to corruption.

thank the Pakatan Rakyat for saving Selangor from going to the dogs. being born and brought up in this state, only significant changes are gonna made soon in this state.
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written by Syncnister, May 29, 2008 | 18:03:30
Replying to :

" written by acacia, May 21, 2008 | 23:40:59



Of course then there's the May 13 incident, always blaming the 'opposition' (implying it was Chinese) without mentioning the fact that weapons were handed out at the Selangor MB's residence to retaliate against the earlier demonstration (which was admittedly provocative). "

Just imagine mobs of gangster march provocatively through a kampung. The Ketua Kampung, feeling provocated and unsafe of such unruly manner hand over weapons to vilagers for self defense. He is the Ketua Kampung afterall ... with great power come great responsibilities, to quote Spiderman uncle.

What happen after that, if you ask me ... is the fault of the unruly provocateur. If I'm defending myself, won't think much about where I swing the parang right?

Anyway, Acacia ... thanks for admitting which side is the provocateur. It put things into perspective.

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written by Syncnister, May 29, 2008 | 19:05:33
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written by drrafick, May 22, 2008 | 07:46:46
" There is 2 conclusion here:

c. This further concurred that all people are visitors to this land called "Tanah Melayu". Some came from indonesia,others came from china, india,europe etc.. We are all visitors to this land and are equal. "


The problem I have with this argument is that it ignore the history all together. As if, all those hundreds of years of stuff before the first Sultan of Selangor never happen. For instance is the first Kedah royal family is also people who drrafick refer to as "Indonesian"?

The other thing is that, before the colonials divide the nusantara as Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Philipines etc. Melayu is one race (among other ethnic race) that occupied this geographic location called Nusantara.

And ... surprise .. surprise ... Nusantara is the other words for Malay Archipelago.

In addition to this, back on those Selangor Royal family startup days. I doubt it that the term "indonesian" is being used at all. Probably because there is no Indonesia yet. The correct term should be Bugis. And Bugis are also Melayu.

Anyway, there is a fine thin line that differentiate between ethnic race and visitor race. So your conclusion that we are all visitors sounds like something is missing in it.

How about this. Let say 100 Malays go to China and start a kampung there. And stay there for generations. In hundred years will we hear that Melayu are native race of China?

Read carefully what written above. I did not imply that because of this differences, we are all not equal.

Let us all be equal despite of it.

Cheers!
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written by tempias, June 05, 2008 | 16:50:29
RPK,
My husband has an old document /certificate dating back to 1957 with the Selangor state crest and says he is registered as a subject of the Ruler of Selangor under the Selangor Nationality Enactment Act 1952,it was signed by Dato Paduka Zaleha Ali's father,who was at the time the Registrar,Selangor Nationals.Have you any knowledge of such certificates? I presume the Selangor Sultan at the time had granted these after Merdeka.

We appreciate any of your comments...
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