I do not think that i have read the above improperly .
It translates to Ketuanan Melayu again.
I say go get a life to the prince.
The country belongs to the people, all and it is proper.
We dont need a racist prince.

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Dear Tengku
You have obviously been grossly misinformed or you are living in the 14th century . If thats the case , Penang , Malacca should return to the Straits Settlement . We gave up our British citizenship for your malaysian citizenship . If what you say is right that Malays have been coerced into giving non-malays citizenship then I proposed you tell that to the Malaysian Govt to allow Penang to rejoin back the British Empire . That also goes for Sarawak and Sabah . I also suggest you take up history lessons that Kelantan was once part of the Siamese empire and you can go back to them . Thank you .

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Federal Constitution Article 3 (1):
Islam is the religion of the Federation; but other religions may be practised in peace & harmony in any part of the Federation.

I hope MSM media do not spin again.

Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.

Malaysia Bersatu.

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lagi-lagi Malay Special RIGHTS!!!

What Rights do you WANT???

Kick the Chinese out of Malaysia!!!

Blow away the INDIAN to INDIA!!!

Then you'll be HAPPY in Malaysia, RIGHT!?

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It's ok, seems like he prefers the Bumis to be spoon fed forever. If that's the case, I'm actually more than happy at least those who believe so will forever be staying in a cave and waiting for the food to be sent to their mouth. He should actually see the fact that the modern Bumis do not really need any protection in order to compete with the non-Bumis in any field. His comment is actually belittling the Bumis and described them as though they can survive on their own, but need to depend on the non-Bumis. Come on, your Bumi race can do much better than that.... dont belittle them.

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From a melayu centric pov, the prince is absolutely correct.

One of the flaws in such pov has been amply sounded out in former apartheid Africa.

Any reader should therefor ask the benefit of re doing an apartheid trial and error plicy in governing a country.

My first reaction is one of a shock - my ignorance of how such a prince thinks the world revolves around melayu centric, or how ignorant such a prince can be!

My!!

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...that Malays had been coerced into giving non-Malays citizenship and the latter should therefore not seek equality or special treatment.

You have obviously been grossly misinformed or......being used.

We don't need a racist prince.
Certainly!

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This kelantan prince needs someone to translate the constitution for him. How can you blame the rakyat for saying he is not intelligent and do not seem to understand the constitution. Clearly the constitution says we are a secular country but islam is the religion of the federation. If they talk too much, why allow alcohol and gambling if really Malaysia is an islamic state. Its because Malaysia cannot survive without the taxes paid by these 2 vices. What hypocrites.

This Tengku should know that long before the malay, the indian hindus and chinese were in Malaya. maybe the tengu should trace his family three, there will probably be lots of hindus and indians among his ancestors.

As chaptokam said, Kelantan was once part of the siamese empire. Maybe the tengku would like to trace his family three back to siam.

Seems that the only royalty that seem to be really intelligent and non a racist is Tengku Nazrin. At least he is one person all the rakyat has respect for.

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Yeah, send him back to Golok. He wouldn't be a prince today but a Siamese peasant being loyal to the Thai King instead.

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This is surprising given that they have been under PAS for so many years, and certainly PAS does not promote Ketuanan Melayu.

Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu is the bigger problem. They only invite extremists to talk at their seminars. Soon you will hear of these ultras calling for a repeat of May 13.

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Chinese and Indian have already STRIP almost naked for you.

What is left is G String only.

What else do you want??? How about our Anus???

That's the Reason BN are buried in the General Election.

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As posted by Wisdom, our Federal Constitution clearly states that, Islam is the religion of the Federation & it does not mean that we are an Islamic country!

As such, when the Crown Prince says that, Malaysia is an Islamic country, either our Federal Constitution is wrong or the Crown prince is lying.

Am I right or am I right?

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Dumb prince makes dumb statement and calling himself a prince , must be the dumb kids on the block . Just to enlightened the history of Kelantan ;

Under the terms of the Anglo-Siamese Treaty of 1909, the Thais surrendered its claims over Kelantan, Terengganu, Kedah and Perlis to Great Britain, and Kelantan thus became one of the Unfederated Malay States with a British adviser.

Kelantan was the first place in Malaya to be occupied by the Japanese, who invaded on December 8, 1941. During the Japanese occupation, Kelantan came again under control of Siam, but after the defeat of Japan in August 1945, Kelantan reverted to British rule.

Kelantan became part of the Federation of Malaya on February 1, 1948 and together with other states attained independence on August 31, 1957. On September 16, 1963, Kelantan became one of the component states of Malaysia.

The Non Malays and the Malays should thus have equal status in Kelantan and in Malaysia by virtue of the fact that Kelantan was also under British at some time . If you think you want to pull wool over our eyes I think you have been USED by the Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu , that all from me .

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Negara ku
Tanah tumpahnya darahku,
Rakyat hidup
bersatu dan maju,
Rahmat bahagia
tuhan kurniakan,
Raja kita
selamat bertahta,
Rahmat bahagia
tuhan kurniakan.
Raja kita
selamat bertakhta.

Aren't all Malaysia sing the same. Looks like we non malays live in Malaysia on charity.

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Malays are disillusioned not because of discussions on welfare state ..etc etc.
Malays are disillusioned because of the ACTIONS of UMNO.UMNO does not fight for Malays but for the elite UMNOPUTRAS.
The 12 PRU shows that the Malays have rejected UMNO and have wisely chosen PR.

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this prince is an idiot. no wonder he hates tok guru nik aziz so much. everyone knows the strain relationship between the current kelantan government with the istana (read tengku razaleigh)

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“The Malay rulers are the head of the Islamic religion and Malaysia is a Islamic country (negara Islam), not secular. We have our own formula (as a country) which is different from others,” What is the formula can anyone explain? Looking into the constitution, I can only gather that Malaysia is a secular country rather than an Islamic country. Someone should explain the formula.

“Thus, it is not appropriate for these other ethnic groups to have citizenship, only (later) to seek equality and privileges,”
Can anyone explain the status of the non-malays in the country? How do you explain to those whose grandfather, father, and himself were all born in Malaysia and never have set foot in the land they so called came from?
Why don't they openly say that they don't want non-malays to be in the country?
Atleast Idi Amin was not a hypocrate by packing the Asians out of Uganda.
Well, the non-malays have to take care of the Malays. Most of the Malays are openly admiting they are inadequate and uncapable rise up on their own effort. Well, it is no harm helping the weak. Non-Malays should help our incapable Malay friends. But my Malay friends are surely capable and they don't need anyone's help.

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Crowd only about 1000 people...hmmm...very dismal...looks like attended only by UMNO people.Told you already..MALAYS ARE MUCH,MUCH SMARTER THAN YOU THINK.They don't want UMNO.UMNO has only given Malays a shit life.Now Malays want a better quality life under PR,free from poverty,oppresion,corruption and judicial intimidation.So Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu, you can bungkus

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tengku faris,
your comment has landed a punch in my face as a young chinese malaysian

it is truly heart-breaking...

after the elections, i had dreams of coming home to malaysia, to serve the people of my country... in the past month i couldn't contain my excitement, i have spoken so proudly of my country, to my colleagues from all around the world.

but i guess reality truly bites, there is no country to return to,
it's akin a case of unrequited love,
because i am only a 2nd class citizen...

do i have a choice? can i reverse history?
my family has been in malaysia for generations...
what do i do in china? i can't read a single word of chinese!

but it's okay tengku faris...
i am young, blessed with an IQ of 180, with stacks of qualifications behind my name,
i will dry my tears, there is no point crying anymore,
if that's what my fellow malay countrymen think, that i should be forever second to them, i guess it's time to move on...
do you know how much it hurts to read your words?
i am not your charity, my dignity is my right

i will bring my talent, my passion, my intelligence, my taxes, my love to the many other countries in the world who will have me,
where life is really much more comfortable, when equality is my right as a citizen, where i will truly be valued and loved...

goodbye malaysia

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With due respect to the Prince, he is now wading into the quagmire of political quicksand. He may be unwittingly reading a text written by some UMNOputras.

Just like many from the Straits Settlements of Penang, Melaka and even Lumut, we were all borned British subjects. We exchanged British citizenship for Malaysian citizenship without my consent.

Let's hope the Kelantan Crown Prince is in newspapers jargon "misquoted". Otherwise, he need to get a crash course on Malaysian Constitution 101.

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dumb statements like this only make the structure of a monarchy (Malaysian style) more venerable. He isn't making the Malay cause more palatable; indeed it is unacceptable.
More of this and he might be staring at a movement that would call for the abolishment of the monarchy all together.

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"I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

Martin Luther King

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This is a political statement normally made by aspiring politicians from UMNO Youth.
It's not right for those who wish to maintain their royal decorum to enter into such polemics for he will then face rebuttals which may be unpleasant.
Or he could enter politics.

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Dumb Prince,
How much did UMNO pay you to read that statement ?? Money for your creditablily and integrity , Dumb prince ,just sold your soul to the devil ,tau ke ? HANTU

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Tengku, with due respect to you. Chinese or for that matter, non malays have never been equal in Malaysia since 50 years ago. Never, we have never been equal but instead have been trampled upon, we have been unfairly discriminated even though we have not done too badly.

It is very painful when the country is rich and could have been a lot better whereby all malaysian would have been a lot better if only UMNO had followed the good spelt out in Islam but instead UMNO had actually screw Islam, brought disrepute to Islam while championing Islam at the same time.

In the eye of Islam, should UMNO be damned. UKNO is corrupt to the core and why the cry to save UMNO by the very same crook who is the main cause of the problems that we ahve today.

Not just the nin malays have been discriminated but Malays as well. That is UMNO.

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Bigot Prince,

Yes, as a king you need a territory to set up your throne. But then, who you think you are? Who is your rakyat? Who is the Malay in Malaysia? Citizen rights during Malaysia formation as a new country symbolizing you as a head of state. Talk and speak directly Prince! Oh, let me help you to say it "I need Malay's rights for the sake of my kingship"!

Am not happy with you Prince.

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the conclusion was Malays are becoming confused....U know why..we got dick he*** up there who use the usual stuff...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
And as for u Faris...theres a ferris wheel who cld take u to ur dream land.
One cld be a tengku , o sultan, or raja....does god give a thought or a damn about it?..neither would I...since I am made in his image..
Shalom

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Some people don't seem to see the hands that feed them.
Nor do they know who or when their butts have been kicked.
They just prefer to be the dumb ones, and prostitute their rights to the highest bidder & do as they are told.
Maybe sufiah can teach them a thing or two .....

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Is somebody trying to upstage Raja Nazrin here?
Pathetic attempt to please the UMNO peasantry, if you ask me .....
No Sirree, Tg Faris - that was uncalled for, and very thoughtless.
Sorry - No points for you, Tg!

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One step forward, now three steps backwards

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Dear Tengku Faris,

Ampun Tuanku. You are mistaken that the non-Malays are challeging Article 153 of the Constitution. We are not. After all, the so-called "special rights" are not really that special... they pertain to language (you can have it), religion (you can have that), the Monarchy (you keep it), and certain quotas for business and education.

What we are against is the abuse of such priviledges. Such as the NEP. The NEP is not a special right, but a government policy that has gone on for far too long. Remember, the Constitution only grants the special rights as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. Meaning, your rights end where mine begin.

Also, you have put additional wording into the Constitution. You say we have the absolute right to worship as we please, "but just so long we don't provoke Islam". The provocation part is not in the Constitution. We are allowed our religion in peace, just like anyone else. Who would want to provoke Islam, since it is the official religion of the country? It seems that most of the provocations are from some bigots who profess to be Muslims, but are just chauvinists and racists. Which you sound like one of them.

You also forget that we all agreed to a gentlemen's agreement that the special priviledges (which are not rights) were to be reviewed 15 years after Merdeka. It is now 50 years after Merdeka, and the crutches are still there. Otherwise, why bother giving up being British subjects?

Actually, much of the special priviledges as enshrined in the Constitution are peanuts. It is the abuse of such priviledges like Ketuanan Melayu and the NEP for the benefit of the elite that has made the priviledges seem evil. And, you are perpetuating that evil. After all, the NEP has not benefited the majority of Malays and the other Bumiputeras of East Malaysia.

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In his speech, Tengku Raris said the 12th General Election results have shown that the Malays are being “challenged” and thus Malays unity is of the outmost priority.

I am not sure whether Tengku Raris' statement represents the royalties. Surely the tone is different from that of Selangor and Perak royalties.

More than 1 month after the election. It looked like the country is still not settled. This is getting worrying.

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I beg your pardon Your Highness,

You are wrong. Equality is the inevitable result of Meritocracy. Without Meritocracy there is no progress in this country.

I could not careless if you are the King - If you are wrong I will say you are wrong.

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Racist Pig(Babi) Prince.

First of all, there's no such thing as a/the "Malay" race.

And the Indians were the ones who used the term 'Malai" for this peninsula, and its people living here.... maybe some 1500 yrs ago.

Then of course, various other Indian terms, like Raja, Sultan, Bumi-putra, Perdana Menteri, etc. ....

So if 'Raja' is of Indian origin, then 'kerajaan' also must be Indian, the actual 'Bumi PUTRAs and RAJAs', the Indians.
And don't forget, it's the Indians, the ones more responsible of spreading Islam here... while you damn Melayus just love to give so much credit to the Arabs.

Then another fact. It's the British who actually "institutionalised" such a thing a the "Malay Race", "the Malay Peninsula", "the Malay Archipelago", etc.

So!!!!!
There's no such/actual thing as the "Malay" race - lah, BODOH!

Even that socalled 'Ultra-Malay" M-a-h-a-t-h-i-r --- has an Indian (and Hinduish) name!!

So without the British, there won't be such a thing as, The Malay Peninsula, Malaysia, -
and thus -- no Malay Race -- too lah - you stupid dumb prince.

And --- this Ketuanan Melayu crap should be only in the Peninsula, OK?
Sabah and Sarawak are not part of the Tanah Melayu, and they are not 2nd or 3rd Class citizens, OK?

Sabah and Sarawak folks are "as if" in status as Brunei or Singapore, an independant nation..... and Sabah, Sarawak joined the Federation to be treated as equals... and not the bloody Melayus enrich themselves by riping off the natural resources of East M'sia!!
Without Sabah and Sarawak, could we(ie Malaysia) be quite rich as it's now??

Stop this Ketuanan Melayu crap, when it's all about Islam's treating nonMuslims as Dhimmis (ie slave status) --
and all about other races having to toil and sweat while Malays (in the eyes of most nonMalays) are just free-loaders!

The NEP is about the nonMalay-Muslims, esp. the Chinese helping the Malays forward - which in practise is the Malays are stealing from the Chinese to enrich themselves!!!

POINT: AT SOMEBODY ELSE'S EXPENSE (ie RIGHTS/DUES)!... whether they be Chinese, Indians, or East Malaysians!!

Is this Ketuanan Melayu all about..... the "I Master, You Slave" thing?

How wonderful if nonMuslim countries too treat the Muslims as their slaves or 3rd class citizens!!!

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Yes, I’m waiting for another statement to be made by RAJA MONGREL – RPK’s evil twin brother!

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Ai..yo !! Really fed-up with this issue. Back to the future again.

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Hello, everyone. Please calm down.

We seem to have a SELECTIVE ATTITUDE when it comes to Royalty.

We want so-called 'good' royalty like Raja Nazrin and dislike 'bad' royalty like Tengku Faris.

Let us not be like Dr. M who have a penchant for SELECTIVE MEMORY and SELECIVE TREATMENT.

At least His Highness is not going about it by waving a keris like KERISMUDIN and later going behind our backs plundering PETRONAS for a shopping trip to Paris like the MONGOLIAN YAK.

Tengku Faris IS NOT AN UMNOist.

And while we may disagree on his statement, let us be more polite and respectful. Remember, a member of the Royalty is the one who is permitting us to post all sort of nonsense on MT for free.

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Maybe this prince do not receive "kickbacks" from no nonsense Tok Guru and he is sore. He yearns attention and the only common way a Melayu can do that is by being a racist. Typical.

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Halo Tengku Faris,

You must be reading Utusan, Berita, and the Star while at the golf course.
Pls don't be fooled by the bangsawan and jutawan inside umno.

You should instead lead your own race to compete against other countries and civilisations around the world based on meritrocracy.

Buat apa hanya nak jadi juara kampong ??

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I am awaiting the replied about this article from our dear Malay friend. And I will definably like to hear from RPK. What say about you all?

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Saya sangat terkejut besar membaca rencana Malaysiakini di atas. Bagaimana seorang kerabat diRaja boleh membuat pernyataan yang tidak mengikut fakta sejarah. Sejak bila orang Melayu dipaksa (coerced) untuk memberi hak kerakyatan kepada orang bukan Islam? Dari buku mana baginda mendapat fakta ini? Ataupun penasihat baginda yang mana yang memberi maklumat ini? Dan...siapakah yang selalu melaung-laung dan menyebut-nyebut tentang "ketuanan"?

Dalam zaman moden ini pun, masih ada lagi isu "ketuanan" dan pemberian hak keistimewaan kepada golongan tertentu. Bagaimana negara kita nak maju?

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What is this Crown Price talking about? Giving 2.7 million non-Malays citizenship and should show gratitude? Is someone here trying to re-write the history books? Pleasae enlighten me.

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Outdated prince, racist prince, stup** prince. A prince coming out of nowhere and wants to be the saviour of the malays but it will make matters worse. Better shut his own mouth than asking the rakyat to keep quiet.

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Fascist.

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Well, Crown Prince Tengku Faris Petra, why then don't you then just FO back to Thailand,Sumatra or if you wish to go further back in history, to Yunnan in South China, where your ancestors originally came from?

Even if it's true that the British coerced the Malays, what has that got to do with those Indians & Chinese M'sian citizens of today, most of whom were born in M'sia. Are you suggesting another holocaust, but with this time the victims being the non-Malays?

The Constitution is supreme, and a louse and worm like you should give up sucking the blood of your subjects. Why don't you try real work and getting a real job instead of the 'Gaji Buta' mentality you have of living of the people's hard eraned money?

Equality is earned, not given, you dickhead!!

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he looked like he was forced to read the prepared text..

“The election results have shown that the Malays are disunited and facing other ethnic groups who are more dominant politically and economically,”

should have been read as

“The election results have shown that the Malays are disunited and facing UMNOputras who are more dominant politically and economically,”

Keep issues of RELIGION separate from politics and we will be alright.

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dear malaysian,

i feel very sad with statement made by the prince. although i'm a malay, it is hard to digest that there're still people out there wanted to be segregated by races. What a pity.

To Malay/Muslim:
- islam tidak pernah mengajar penganutnya berpegang kepada unsur perkauman. malah, terdapat larangan yang sangat keras terhadap perasaan ashabiah (berpuak-puak).
- sebagai manusia dimuka bumi ini, sudah tentu kita tertakluk kepada peraturan Ilahi tetapi peraturan tersebut tidak pernah menyuruh kita membeza-bezakan warna kulit, bangsa, dan keturunan.
- tidak salah kita berasa bangga dengan kaum, keturunan, dan budaya tetapi ianya mestilah berlandaskan kepada perinsip keadilan dan kesaksamaan. tetapi ingatlah bahawa adil tidak semestinya samarata
- sebagai muslim kita percaya bahawa Allah swt pasti akan membantu orang-orang yang taat kepadaNya. malangnya, keadaan hari ini meletakkan muslim di lembah penghinaan. orang-orang bukan islam melihat islam dengan penuh kebencian. adakah islam yang salah atau orang-orang islam tidak mengamalkan islam dengan betul dan ini menyebabkan nusrah dan bantuan Allah swt terhenti. adalah tidak mungkin Allah swt menghina hambaNya jika hambaNya taat dalam erti kata yang sebenarnya.
- dunia yang kita hidup ini bukanlah matlamat kita. hanya tempat persinggahan yang sementara. islam mengajar bahawa apabila kita hadapkan tumpuan kita kepada akhirat, dunia ini akan datang kepada kita dengan penuh rasa hina. sebaliknya, jika kita halakan tumpuan kepada dunia, kerugian akan datang kepada kita di kedua2 alam

To Chinese,
- as a malay, of course there's feeling of jealousy especially when we see the gap between us. look at our houses, cars, etc. of course, you reap what you saw. why it is never heard that chinese community helping other races in business world?
- while you talk about equality in this country, can you look a while what's happening in business environment? why in many chinese companies, the racial issue is never ending story? it is not fair that you blame the racist malay but forget your own.
- many blamed corrupt government officers (mostly malay) but many neglected who are the corrupt payer. we know, no demand-no supply, why blame only one side? who the first? is the receiver or the payer? i always get road summon because i never gave any hint to give rasuah when I did wrong
- because of that, malays get worried if the government not willing to protect their interest.

To Indian,
- by percentage, indians are minority thus minority is always tend to be neglected. look at the whole world.
- compare to chinese, indians are more sensitive with their religion. we always believed that chinese are only looking for money. they do not really care about their religion. not malay(muslim) and indian(hindus). the two are very much related to religion. then we need to have more understanding between each other. speaker from mosques and bell ring from temples are always an issue.
- when we see hindus build temples as where they like, then it is not good for relationship. in many places we can see few temples were built very near to each other. everytime when local authority wanted to demolish these no-permit temples, then great anger will take place
- lastly, i pity indians the most. they got nothing. they do not have government to protect and they do not have strong business community to support their living

there are many issues need to be sorted out. at the moment, malays received the most blamed. i hope all of us do not forget to see our own self. we always think we're right but in actual situation, it is not always like that.

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Woooit Faris!
Are sure you are a prince.. you are dumb and don't look like one! Making stupid statements like that, offending your 'Rakyat'! Creating a fool out of the royalties, I hope your parent will punish you for that! I suggest to remove your 'Tengkuship'!

Mind you, we are the 3rd generation born in Malaysia and it is 'Tanah Tumpahnya Darah Ku (kita)'. We spoke very good Bahasa Malaysia, infact I scored A1 in all my school examinations SRP, SPM, STPM, even lebih melayu dari melayu! We love our country and we die for our country and we are born Malaysian not immigrants!!!!! You humilated us and raised 'racial' sentiments.

Wooit Tengku, do you know what is respect? You have to earn it-lah, and looks like you are screwing up your own image already.

By the way, this planet 'Earth' belongs to everyone and if you read your history well (since you wanna be in 14th century's mentality)...Kelantan belongs to 'SIAM' and only incoporated in Malaya after the 1909 treaty. You know kah?

"Ampun tuanku. Sembah patik harap diampun. Izinkan patik menyampaikan berita kepada tuanku bahawa Rakyat Malaysia berbangsa Tiong Hua amat marah dengan kenyataan tuanku. Mereka dengan sebulat suara berpendapat bahawa kenyataan Tuanku amat tidak bertimbang rasa dan menghina kaum, bangsa dan negara. Oleh yand demekian, mereka dengan sebulat suara juga berpendapat bahawa Tuanku harus menarik balik kenyataan tersebut dan meminta maaf kepada rakyat jelata!"

Haahh..nampak tu. Hang ingat kito ni ape? Kewarganegaraan ni hak kito, memang our right bilo kito dilahirkan disini. Hak keseimbangan tu hak semua orang memang hak rakyat Malaysia, tak kiro bangsa dan suku kaum. Paham!

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Sawaadeekap Khoon Faris!

Are we supposed to be indebted to all this bullshit for being born in Malaysia? Does the other races and even the modern Malays share the same allegiance from the heart to the current royalty as the Thai's have to their King or is it just the primitive obsolete constitution that forces us to be this way?

Khop Khun Kap.

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Another so called priviledged citizen who doesn't understand what it is to be a human being. Looks like it was his priviledged upbringing & his lack of intergration with various races in the country & the world has led to this narrow mindedness. Like an orthopedic surgeon says, if I were to cut U open, bone structure of one human is same as all others. No difference. This business of "priviledged" in mankind unfortunately is only reserved for the handicapped. So Tengku Iris, U mean to tell the world that Malays are so handi..... Not so my idiot. I have lots of intelligent Malay friends who are so independent & look to worldly challenges to make mankind a better place for all irrespective of colour or religion. Thinking like U is nothing more than a spoilt child up-bringing.

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Tengku Faris should read the malaysian constituition plus the histroy of Malaya in the forties and present Malaysia. His mind is still in the early forties and we suggest Tuanku of Kelantan should teach him the histroy.
Is he suggesting that the govt treat all non malays citizen as second class citizen with no any rights ?. What happen to any people born in Malaysia. All these people also subject to second class citizen? No human rights, no voting rights and nothing at all. We are all living in the 21 century now not in early forties. Wake up !!.

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Tengku Faris, You are Wrong!

It looks like GRATITUDE surpasses LOYALTY in your books. You ain't gona get any loyalty with your demand for gratitude.

Should we keep saying thank you, even though our religious freedom and educational opportunities are trampled on?

http://orangewaves.blogspot.co...wrong.html

RPK must be boiling by now. After all his efforts to make the royalty acceptable, and even loved again by the people...

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This stoopid Prince is actually helping another Old Prince in campaigning for the UMno high seat, so he have to play on the emotion of the kampung folk lah!

He really underestimate the intelligence of the ordinary Malay folk who had been swindled by the Umnoputras.

With inflation at it's all time high in Malaysian history, comes recession (which is inevitable) they will be hang high and dry under the Malaysian sun.

Good times ahead for crows and maggots.

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Never mind what this Kelantan prince says. We also have princes such as Raja Nazrin. Forgieve him Lord for he does not know what he says.

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I knew it wasn’t going to last and I am glad that I still have my pride and dignity intact! Unlike some folks, who will say anything, even disowning their race just to be part of the herd? Don’t you folks get tired of being called non-Malays?? To me it is a racist remark. I am a Chinese, a person, an individual with my own brains and fully capable of making my own decisions.

Why do the Malays get that special right and privilege to be called Malays and the rest of us become insignificant nobodies, known as non-Malays. Does that mean as a Chinese, my race, my roots and my history do not exist anymore in this country? I am a Chinese through and through and I am proud to be called and known as Chinese. And the rest of you, would you like to be known as non-Chinese? …. does it make you happy and proud to be known as non-Chinese? …. So stop trying to brain wash us into becoming a one race of nobodies. It be will be great if we can live harmoniously together but don’t expect me to give up my dignity by erasing my ethnicity, which is Chinese, Chinese, Chinese.

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Crown prince means the Agong someday. Name Petra might be the same as RPK but the quality of intellect differs so.

Malay unity is PAS and UMNO come together and be as one, with similar aspirations to maintain Malay supremacy in all things whether one is boleh or not is a different matter. No polemics here at all.

The Royalty, through the constitution is the safe keeper of Islam, agreed and very well. Do they control the policy of those groups whose actions so far had been deemed not too righteous and in line with Islamic teachings. If you are, then you've lost control even as to the points you just made.

Citizenship. Do you mean to say there are many types of citizenships here in Bolehland ? Are you then condoning or is practising apartheid ?

RPK for PM!

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only the Malays who can't get ahead in life by their own minds and abilities harp on issues of special rights. i have many Malay friends who are very intelligent and hardworking who aren't at all concerned about these special rights.

Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu should unite the Malays without using religion and rights issues. unite them by EDUCATING them. ensure all those poor kampung children (yes.. still poor and living in huts after 50 years of BN) get the right education to prepare them for 21st century.

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A dangerous future Sultan!!

I am tempted to suggest that we do a black-list of people such as this 'Prince', politicians, NGO leaders, political aspirants, etc etc etc who brings out racism matters. The list might include what was said as an archive to jog our memory.

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Dear eisham,
I wish to get some of my view and share with you all,
I agreed that what you had mentioned above but ....partial.
If every one is given the fair policy, Chinese businessman will give or offer? If Malay is being right educated and train to be independence, will there still need the spoon feeding until today even the NEP is being started since Razak period? Does Indian need to be like existing situations where every time the need to cry for something? Do you think that they need the crony "Ali-Baba" culture if the country is fair politicizes our citizen right? Please look at other country like Singapore, they are rich but do you think that they are paid good "unseen" offer to the government officer? Look at Malay in Singapore...there are straggling to strike the best as others...
If look at past history, it's like chicken and egg talk.
My advice is, we are facing global, so think future and act global. It's useless to be Juara Kampung as mentioned earlier. As the money is came from FDI and not from our King...please remember. And who will benefit if our country get rich and stable.....you mostly will know the answer.


Tq.

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looks like the kelantan sultan is pro BN. Strange he is a minority supporter....After nik aziz gone Pas is gonna to have a hard time with this prince taking over from his dad.

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Outstanding intellect on display.

Citizenship is not yours to give.
Citizenship is what is my rights, what i will get, and what I will take. I will never ever need your permission.

Get that clear in your understanding....

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Dear eisham,

Mostly agree with what you have to say. You do need some clarification on three things, though.

Yes, we Chinese are not really helpful when it comes to teaching others our business acumen. However, you assume we know "secrets" that only we can teach. That is wrong, as everything we know, the rest of the business world knows just as well. It all boils down to having goals, a workable strategy to achieve those goals, hard work, thrift, and the ability to pick oneself up from the many roadblocks and failures that will naturally occur in any business.

Malays don't need to learn anything from us, other than to have the courage to take the opportunities as they come (no matter how small), and the courage to face failure and rejection at every turn. And, courage is nothing more than the rejection of fear.

On Chinese businesses only hiring Chinese employees... this I agree has to do with our myopic (and usually wrong) perception that Malays are laid back (read: lazy). This perception is further enhanced by the perpetual crutches given by the government and the low quality of employable Malays. When I say low quality, I do not mean in terms of character, but marketable assets. Most are only fluent in a single language, while Chinese companies require us to be fluent in at least four (English, Malay, Mandarin, and another Chinese dialect). No offense meant, but this not the fault of the Malays, but the fault of the education system.

On bribery, I like you, pay my summonses. Most of the time when I asked to be summoned, the police will usually let me go with only a warning. Perhaps the police were not meant to be there, and giving out a summons would be risking a reprimand from their higher ups.

Business bribery, on the hand, although loathful, is a necessary evil that we partake in. Unlike a traffic summons, where we have broken the law and deserved to be summoned, businesses have done no wrong. However, we are hindered by all manner of "fantasy" red tape, which if we adhered to, we would be out of business. How to get around such red tape, other than to grease the hands that hold the keys to the gate?

Heck, if we were as efficient as Singapore, we'd be really happy. After all, who is ever happy in paying bribery? Only the receiver is happy. If the gamen departments were as efficient as those in Kelantan, we won't need to pay bribery.

By the way, have you had to get approval in Kelantan? It is a paradise compared to other parts of Malaysia. The PAS government will tell you up front whether can or cannot. If cannot, bribery also doesn't work. If can, they will tell you the timetable for such approval (which is usually very reasonable). Now, that's the way how things are supposed to work.

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This is Malaysia at the crossroad. Royalty is one of the instituition of the Malays that I would respect just because of its name and that should be the case. That would be the ultimate respect show by non-Malay to Malaysian as Malaysian and we expect rulers to protect and strengthen us rakyat as well.

On the other hand how do you response to this immature comments. Equality must be provided by the goverment to all their citizens without looking at their race, creed or religion period. If Malay is mature as Malaysian they should advice these potentially division comments by our Rulers that they must provide leadership, protection and strength for all Malaysian and not only Malays.

Dissapointing to the bone concerning the comments and make me wish all my family members move out of this country now. But, than again I hope Malay is mature enough to take this comment with a grain of salt and not follow blindly on comments like this.

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If there are any orang Kelantan here who want to express their views to your crown prince, the official website is alsultankelantan.gov.my. I tried to find an e-mail address or 'Contact Us' form, but failed.

Kerajaan negeri Kelantan can be contacted at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it . They even have a borang maklum balas: www.kelantan.gov.my/index.php?q=feedback

Perhaps complaints can be sent to the state government instead seeing as the royal house is unreachable.

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we in pas fully support the royalty as the guardians of islam.
it is true that we malays gave up jawi for bahasa malaysia so as to unite the nation.
it is also true that citizenship was not given willingly.
what tuanku said is true.
just look at the gulf countries and you will understand.
no matter how long you work there, there is no hope for citizenship.
unfortunately the younger generation in malaysia does not understand nor know this history.
once we in pas control the federal govt we will institute changes in our history books so as to educate the younger generation on how the nation was formed and the compromises made by sultans on behalf of the malay majority.
all should understand the past to embrace the future..
we in pas will institute changes in the federal constitution so as to make malaysia more islamic and thus transparent and honest.
we will work closely with the royalty to protect the malay rights while at the same time taking in to consideration the rights of other races and religions.
we will be free and fair to all.
with haji hadi awang as prime minister of malaysia and nik aziz nik mat as the spiritual leader we will move malaysia forwards in peace and harmony.
allahu alkbar!
hidup pas! hidup malaysia!

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Now, Mr. Lim and Karpal should screw this felar from top to the bottom for saying Malaysia is an islamic state. Wow! This felar is worst than PAS a thousand times.

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Another low blow! This Kelantan prince talks like a proper Umnoputera. You forgot that you are a prince and would be King for all Malaysians, not only Malays. All these shows sign of insecurity and fear of losing something. No quality of a King,if you ask me.

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What the idiot Tengku, there is no respect from me totally.

Faris you do not deserve to be a Tengku, go to hell. May be you should live in cave and join the Flintstone family.

PR is not saying any such statement and against discrimination.

Are you the one who is supporting BN and try to stir up the PR agenda?

Forever PR, Steve

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Tengku Faris wants us NOT to seek equality, so there should always be inequality in our society regardless...and this comes from a crown prince!!!! What will become of Kelantan when he become the Sultan!?! I would like to believe that you are reading from a text prepared for you without fully knowing the content.......

I am ashamed to have a prince like YOU, Tengku Faris.....

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Angfaulith wrote:
we will work closely with the royalty to protect the malay rights while at the same time taking in to consideration the rights of other races and religions.

What you mean 'taking into consideration'?? You should instead just say, our rights are long time 'taken for granted'.

This is not saudi arabia, nobody wants to be citizen there anyway. As soon as the oil dries up then you'll see how saudi arabia functions.

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Dumb prince makes dumb statement but there are also dumb people will follow. This guy is dangerous. Don't take him for granted. Someone from BR must speak up against him. Charge him under stirring up racial sentiment. Shut his mouth before he does more harm.

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The prince was only echoing His Master's Voice. Can't blame him. After all he only read out what was written (he read from a 11-page prepared text). I smell UMNO's handiwork.

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..... that Malays had been coerced into giving Non-Malays citizenship and the latter should therefore not seek equality or special treatment.....
Tengku:-
(1) you should have more capable & intelligent advisors to advise you on the Malaysian Constitution with regards Malaysia being an "Islamic State".
(2) Many states that formed Malaysia, namely Sarawak, Sabah, Malacca & Penang formerly belonged to Great Britain. Therefore, these people were already British citizens when Malaysia gained independence in 1957. It is like a transfer of citizenship.
(3)Even African slaves taken back to America to work the cotton-fields were ultimately given American citizenship. Who knows one of them with Afro-ancestry may even become an American president.
(4)Non-Malays in this country are NOT seeking "special treatment". But being legal citizens, shouldn't they be given "fair treatment"?
And lastly, I am very surprised that the above moronic piece of sh*t speech had come from a royalty. It would have been more fitting that idiotic speech had come from some political wannabe.

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It's quite shocking for the royalty to say such a thing. It almost renders the 12th GE election meaningless. Why does the royalty give Datukships and Tan Sris to non Malays then? OMG, my heart is broken to pieces. My heart is broken to pieces. Is there hope for non Malays? We have no right to seek for equality, what right do we have then? Are the non Malays the black equivalents of America? This is a dark moment for non Malays of Malaysia. The Kelantan royalty has taken the hope away from we thought we saw only about a month ago. Perhaps all these hopes were just a dream. We have been jolted up from our sweet dream. We have wake up to reality. This is reality!

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Yep! All of you had spoken your mind.

The idiot prince had clearly depicted his stupidity upon openning his mouth.

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What is the meaning of citizenship? Which country in the world says not all their citizens have the same rights?
You asked for privileges to come up, and were given. Unfortunately, the non-Malays did not supervise the privileges and so they got hijacked. Let's put the privileges in writing and go back to 1972 to review them after 15 years of Merdeka. Anything can happen in the name of privileges including murder or jail terms like in the case of LGE. You are not giving one bit to the nons and have brought Indons to add to the problems. We did not agree to give the privileges to the Indons! The people among themselves and of all races have no problems but leaders are causing problems so as to divide and rule and benefit billions after diverting attention.

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eveyone, hide all the kris, if this dumb prince has a chance to hold the kris....non-malay, you have to run for cover.... migrate overseas if it makes you feel safer

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Dear friends,

It is my considered opinion that Kelantanese are migrants from Pattani, Thailand. Upon defeat by Bangkok, some moved south. They are pendatangs.

Before that they emigrated to Pattani from Cambodia. They are Cambodians.

The British have no treatises with the Unfederated Malay States. These 4 malay states were exchanged with Thailand in 1909. They were vassal states.

In the run up to independence the UFMS were brought into the Federation along with the FMS and the Straits Settlements. Three 'nations' were brought together to form Malaya.

Then Sabah and Sarawak were brought in to form Malaysia. Malaysia today is therefore made up of '5 nations', and not 3 as erroneously presumed.

It was the consensus of the chinese and indians that led to the independence of Malaysia. That was the precondition, the rest details.

The non malays had no dealings with the malays. All dealings were with the British.

For the most part, most of malayan states were vassals of imperialists, except for a short brief from 1409-1511. Even then for a time being a vassal of China or Thailand. Thus there was never a ketuanan of any sort. It is a modern fallacious theory.

This is my opinion based on reputed historians. The prince has been ill advised by his historians and constitutional experts. It could be part of a conspiracy to raise racialism which we have been forwarned about. Please ignore it.

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Fascinating Malaysia !

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If all the CHINESE are to leave this country ... the economy of this country will go down the drain. And this is a fact!!

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Faris forgot the Sarawak and Sabah native. Send him to Thailand to be with Chin Peng

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visit here for more happy day

http://tbsbidayuh.blogspot.com

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dear bunda,

as i said, there're lots of issues need to be sorted out properly. of course the leaders are responsible for that but as citizen of this country, we have parts to contribute, each and everyone.

about your comments, the points are noted. Although i can give answers from my point of view, it will become never ending story. we need to have passionate when promote fair citizenship

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Sawaadeekap Khoon Faris

You will be the last dying breed of monarch to exist with the rest of the Sultanates. Fight among yourselves and remain in the little territory you belong since sharing power for one country comes only once in 5 years. Like your brothers in UMNO living envious of each other to become another island of their own.

Learn from your neighboring counterpart the King and people of Thailand.

The King of Thailand upon his demise would hand over his duties not to his STD infected Prince but the Princess for the position as President. The Princess is very much respected for her social duties and charitable work to be privileged to be the newly created President post as the monarch is now obsolete once the King perishes.

The King of Thailand is much loved and respected for his non involvement with politics and has peacefully united all Thai citizens formerly immigrants of Burma, India, China, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Northern Malaysian States and now the Whites (Farangs). Every Thai national proudly respects & wear the National Yellow color and Thai emblem pledging support for their King.


Kop Khun Kap

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Dear Crown Prince. Talk like that ah!

Like that everybody go back to where their ancestor came from lah!

No need to quarrel .

Remember, everyone is an immigrant! That includes you.

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OUTRAGEOUS!

This is an insult to people who recently denied the two-third BN majority and readily to give an opportunity to the country to build a ONE Malaysian nation, rather than a multi racial nation.

What about non-Malay who were born in Malaysia and Malaysian who are 2rd, 3rd and 4th generations? Do you consider them legalized citizens likening to their ancestors who came to Malaysia prior to its independent?

If the constitution holds true then non-Malay citizens will forever barred from seeking equality and making Malay the dominant race in the country and how well this can make Malaysia truly a ONE nation?

So long Malaysia continues to have these loose canons, it never able to achieve the ONE nation status and forever people are divided. When their positions are threatened, they must use racial issue to enhance their positions.

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I wander whether it got anything to do with Tengku Razaleigh ?

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lately we've seen some royalty who are vocal for all Malaysians.

sorry but this particular royalty in this article still living in the dark ages.
stupid man. really stupid. hey prince, if i see u i'll call u stupid right at your face. bollocks. might as well go live in caves lah if like this.

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OK, 1st of all, I'm going to openly state that I'm a Kelantanese and a Malay. I was watching Buletin Utama just now when they show the snippet of Tengku faris making the speech. To be honest, I felt sick in the stomach on how a prince (from Kelantan some more) can read such a speech (yes he was reading it guys, written by someone else...words by words). I always think that the whole 'gabungan-for-melayu' or whatever crap they called it would do much damage than good to the country knowing that most people who gonna make much noise in it will be the usual UMNO bunch. They should just call themselves UMNO!! I was a bit surprised how a crown prince can get caught up in the middle of all these nonsense.

However, for all the readers who posted the comment here, please stop the whole Kelantanese-can-go-back-to-Siam' and other Malay taunting. It too is uncalled for as the prince speech. Do not think that all Kelantanese (and Malay) agree with him.We are all Malaysian despite what those bunch said! Nothing will change that. This is part of the strategy to get the non malay upset. Remember what RPK cautioned us before? It was only a day after RPK warned us about all these...it was made after the whole MCA saying Chinese being cheated. Now it's UMNO turn to put fuel on the Malay!! Wake up guys, I know everyone is upset but DO NOT fall into their trap! DO NOT give them excuse to start something worse. Please, I'm begging all of the Malaysian to see what they're really trying to do!

Tengku Razaleigh is the uncle of Sultan Kelantan, so I'm not suprised this is part of elaborate plot by UMNO to turn the heat up on Malaysian who are just beginning to break down the race barrier! trust me, Tengku Faris does not know what he is saying, he just read it out of pages being given to him. Maybe it's a case of trying to do a' Raja Nazrin' (which I'm so proud of now that I'm living in Perak), maybe it's a case of naivety, but whatever it is, there's only 1000 people there. Do you guys know what that mean? Meaning it doesn't hold any weight to the current RAKYAT opinion.

I'm stressing again, do not fall into their trap...DO NOT get into the name calling of the Royalty. It's what they really want. Again, remember what YM RPK cautioned us. Do not give this hard fought victory away!

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Cleary uneducated !!!!

He should just stick to nicking cars for Kastam garages......Ikut tradisi lah !!!

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Tengku Faris,

U are going to be the Agung of Malaysia one day so don't say STUPID things like non-Malays should not seek equality.

I am a Malaysian first and foremost and will judge my fellow Malaysians on their own merit, and expect to be judged the same.

If you believe non-Malays should consider themselves second best to a Malay just because u/Umno/and other Malays supremacists say so, u should lift your head out of the toilet bowl right now.

Behave like a prince for all Malaysian or consider yourself a mere despot for the Malays only.

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I cannot help but to laugh after reading this article.. It very much relates to Pete's earlier article on Malaysians being prostitutes..

Well, looks like YM Tengku Faris, just proved that royalties too can be prostitutes. Come on, YM, let's be open. How much did UMNO pay you to read that speech? A return ticket to UK, may be? **wink** **Wink**

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The government not so long ago anounced that chinese got the highest household income around 5-6k, indians 3-4k and the malays 1-2k. Does this mean that only the indian and chinese are taxed and are actually paying the prince's salary???

Makan gaji pendatang? Betul ke ni?

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hiryu,

First, welcome to Perak. :-)

And thank you for posting. I am 100% in agreement with you. I am a strong supporter of the institution of the monarchy not because I believe the Sultan can save us but because I believe he has a strong role to play in the 'check and balance' of the government. There are good Sultans and there are bad Sultans. We in Perak still remember Sultan Idris whom you may not know of since you are new but ask any Perakian to tell you about him.

Institutions can be better or worse. Institutions can be manipulated. In itself the monarchy has a lot of potential for good, but...

'The right state of human affairs, the moral well-being of the world can never be guaranteed simply through structures alone, however good they are. Such structures are not only important, but necessary; yet they cannot and must not marginalize human freedom. Even the best structures function only when the community is animated by convictions capable of motivating people to assent freely to the social order. Freedom requires conviction; conviction does not exist on its own, but must always be gained anew by the community.' (From In Spe Salvi, 'In Hope We are Saved', encyclical letter of pope Benedict XVI.)

Since you are a Kelantanese, perhaps you could consider writing to your Sultan or your state government and expressing your views? (See contact info which I pasted above in a previous post.)

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This is the same privileged spoilt brat who drove a Lamborghini.. saw him at the F1.. after the race, there was the usual massive jam & police outriders had to buka jalan for him so he can show off his Lam to his female mat salleh companion.

Obviously this fella is not intelligent & not fit to be a ruler. Lucky I'm not a Kelantanese or I'll be very embarrassed to have such member of the royalty.
No respect for such idiot.

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Heyyyy, and how about us BORNEO natives?

Dontwe have the right to demand equal status? Going by the NEP argument, we borneo natives, justlike the orang asli in semenanjung should have higher previleges than the Malays...

Malays like Khir Toyo was born in INDONesia, so I should have the right to tell him to go back to indon instead of having the same previleges as me.
Unfortunately, we the borneo natives are the UNDERCLASS as Lim Kit Siang correcktly pointed out in parliament.

And if this Stupid prince tell me to go home, GO home where? I cannot go back to china becos i am not a chinese, I cannot go back to India becos I am not an indian, and I cannot go back to Indonesia becos I am not an indon.

Me, born true son of borneon soil, and so were my great great great great grandparents... AND I SHOULD BE THE ONE telling this stupid prince to go home to indonesia, becos most of the Sultans originally comes from Sumatra.

Now if this prince refuses to apologise on this remarks, then I should start a campaign to have him ABDICATE his princeship or further thrash the political party that he supports in the next election.

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****, this is all bad business!! Everyone should calm down and see the REAL MOTIVE off all this nonsense. These are the same bunch who has everything to lose... they've been gorging on the nation's wealth for so long, now that the well is drying up... these crazy dogs are panicking, biting and running all around. It's the same case with the running MCA dogs. These are the UMNO running dogs!

I'm fearing the worse from the backlash that will come tomorrow. The same ****ing bastards who started this will be laughing their asses off and watch the 'wayang kulit' unfold in days to come. Guys, stop being the puppets and being played by the puppeteers!

p/s: Anak Kampung, I'm currently residing in Bukit Chandan, Kuala Kangsar...so yes I know about Sultan Idris! . Will write a 'piece' and maybe Tuan Guru Nik Aziz can talk some sense into the Prince!

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The malays should thank the non malays for giving them a good life in Malaysia. If not for the non malays, the malays today will be still living in coconut trees, bathing in rivers, living in the jungles, etc...The non malays paid most of the taxes to the govt. which are then use thru' Nep to help the poor malays but most of the money are then hijacked by Umnoputras instead of the charities going to the malays. Can't imagine if thre are no non malays living in this country, how is the economy going to survive? When there are no taxes collected from the non malays, Malaysia will be bankrupt and the economy kaput and Malaysia will become the poorest and most backward nation on earth. We are the only country to have this "aparthied" system as known by the whole world. The non malays have been discriminated for generations, have been helping the malays for so long with the taxes paid to them, yet the malays are so ungrateful. What to do if they have no brains to think?? I am lost for words

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ONE question how much were you paid tengku by umno to make this statement, we have such contrasts in the royal families, on one end you have RAJA NAZRIN and on the other end you have this ???, ARE YOU ANOTHER UMNO LAP DOG like your saudara ku li. please lah who wants to take away malay rights, we want just equality, after 50 years of ketuanan and abuses under the name of deb and direct tenders, what malay rights are you talking about fool, growing up in luxury and privelages you must be either very stupid or very blind to what is happening around you in your own backyard in kelantan, which other race has taken the rice away from the kelantanese people, who are responsible, I DON'T SAY IT IS PAS, NOPE ITS NOT THEM ITS UMNO, The abject poverty you people are living under, puts you to shame, you are a fool if you cannot see this, GO HELP STRENGTHEN THE LIVELEHOOD OF THE MALAYS IN KELANTAN WHO ARE YOUR SUBJECTS BEFORE MOUTHING OFF ABOUT RIGHTS, WE DONT STEAL THE FOOD FROM THE KELANTANESE YOU DO.

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can somebody give him a keris so he can wave it while giving this speech ?

cheers

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Looks like this princess is belum matang lagi, pei main di meja budak kechil, bila matang baru mai duduk di meja besar

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This speech is most inappropraite and raising senstive issue that cause disharmony amongst Malaysians. The whole speech has a lot of contraditions in itslef , and causing disillution.
This speech is not welcomed.

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What Hiryu says makes sense. UMNO is desperate to divide Malaysians and we must be careful not to fall into their trap.

Also beware the Cybertroopers who may be posting highly inflammatory comments.

Also take a look at what one Malay blogger wrote here http://aisehman.org/:

"As a Malay, I apologise to all non-Malays that there are among my fellow Malays who hold such views.

It is disgusting, even if these people have a right to their opinions and a right to express them.

But don’t worry. Come the next elections, we shall make sure that those who hold similar views will not even come close to forming the federal government.

That’s the only lesson they can understand."

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it's indeed very dissapointed to hear this. our country is more than 50 yr old already and we are still harping on something, that this race is deserving this rights and that rights. why can't we work together to achieve our malaysian's goal. that's equal rights to each of every one??
very dumb prince!!

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I would advice all Chinese to "stay true to yourselves". That way you will always remain strong and be able to hold your head up and not be called prostitutes. And I guarantee you will be called just that, for selling your dignity and losing your brains and not being able to think and make decisions for yourself. It’s a shame to your own kind, if you can be so easily persuaded to become something that is not ingrained in your family’s genes. We are a proud people and we do not kowtow to anything that belittles us to the extent of making us into insignificant human beings. We are better than that and traditionally we are that and nothing less!!

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Now, this is what I call "Stirring Up A Hornet's Nest".And what a nest!. All these utterances (comments? feedbacks? remarks? history lesson? whatever you call them) really brings out the worst in we Humans.

For what it is worth, this is what may be the case;

1.TF may have been manipulated but definitely misled.
2.TF fared badly, maybe failed his PMR and SPM history tests.Hasn't the history book in schools been changed?
3.TF's faculties is not fully developed yet.
4.TF failed to review the text/speech that was given to him.Baca sahaja.
5.TF just applied to join UMNO, and is awaiting acceptance of his application.
6.TF has been charmed or hypnotized by some racist bomoh.

How else, of all people, a member of the royal household would have made statements as TF has?.Take your pick of the multiple choice answers.Or if you have anymore to add on, please do so.

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http://www.asiafinest.com/foru...20921.html
SO SHOULD THE MALAYSIAN PEOPLE ALSO TREAT YOUR CHILDREN AS OUTSIDERS, AND SHOULD NOT DEMAND TOO MUCH, HOI BODOH HOW DOES THIS REFLECT ON YOUR WIFE WHO IS THAI AND NOT EVEN A MALAYSIAN BORN AND BREad HERE,WHAT THE SPEAKING THE KOLK YOU CAKAP,

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sitiawan SAID "Chinese and Indian have already STRIP almost naked for you.
What is left is G String only. What else do you want??? How about our Anus???
That's the Reason BN are buried in the General Election"
nope he wants you shit too so he can make fertiliser

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oh dear ! So young and already a racist !! I only have one question : WHY ARE THE MALAYS SO AFRAID TO DO FAIR ?? We are all CITIZENS of the same country.We're born here,bred here and we'll eventually die and be buried here,royalty or no royalty !!

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Well said, Mr. Prince of Kelantan.

Now, all the non-Malays should simply migrate. Without the 90% or so in total national taxes paid up by the non-Malays, let's see how many more Lamborghini's you and your ilk from Kelantan can keep buying and/or stealing from the airport depot.

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Stupid TF. Nobody asking for equality. We just ask for efficient and clean goverment.
Talking without using your brain is a disgrace to your famly.
Your can be racist but who are you anyway? just another idiot talking cock.
Your statement is not relevant.

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Evidently this Tunku has been bought by UMNO with a promise of more allowance if UMNO capture the state!

However even a blind man can "see" that the Malays are divided into two almost equal camps. Its the non-Malays that will decide which camp will be in the Govt!

As a present to the non-Malays that put it in Govt, it may reduce the allowance of the royalties to be spend on the people!

This Tunku once again make the people suspect the royalties!

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Hello TF since when the Malays became better than all of us non malays. FYI my great grandfather and grandfather also fought the Japanesse and communist. Their blood n sweat also fell onto this land ( Malaysia ). So this make it myland as much as the Malays and i must have the same rights , nothing less. Get that thru your thick Royal skull. I speak for all non malays wheather they agree with or not.

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What is all the fuss about. It's just another privileged idiot who has never had to work a day in his life making an idiotic statement. Nonsense from idiots like this should be treated the way it deserves - flushed down the royal toilet. OK I let go my frustration he is a BASTARD.
The bigger agenda - to rid ourselves of this blasted corrupted government. Let's focus on this. Idiots like this will toe the line once we get the new PR government in place.
By the way, I am a Malaysian first and a Malay.

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All Royalties should watch-out of what they could say and what they are NOT allowed to say as royalties!!! The rakyat has the ultimate say!!! If hell breaks-loose than we will have no choice but to elect our dearly beloved Raja Nazrin as our President and Malaysia could become a Republic!!! No more to put up with anymore umnoputras!!!

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He is trying to be a smart prince. may be trying to imitate Nazrin.
But he has something that Nazrin doesnt have, ie, Sheer stupidity.

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written by Terry Foo, April 12, 2008 | 23:35:54
The malays should thank the non malays for giving them a good life in Malaysia. If not for the non malays, the malays today will be still living in coconut trees, bathing in rivers, living in the jungles, etc...The non malays paid most of the taxes to the govt. which are then use thru' Nep to help the poor malays but most of the money are then hijacked by Umnoputras instead of the charities going to the malays. Can't imagine if thre are no non malays living in this country, how is the economy going to survive? When there are no taxes collected from the non malays, Malaysia will be bankrupt and the economy kaput and Malaysia will become the poorest and most backward nation on earth. We are the only country to have this "aparthied" system as known by the whole world. The non malays have been discriminated for generations, have been helping the malays for so long with the taxes paid to them, yet the malays are so ungrateful. What to do if they have no brains to think?? I am lost for words

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terry foo,
with your statement, you can definitely ***** with tengku faris. People like you who makes statement like this that makes other races angry, fool! 'Oooo, im better than the rest' attitude can definitely jive with tengku faris statement.

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This absolutely racist statement by a prince is beyond belief in this day and age! And he is not even an UMNO person! Say what you said again to the world at large and you will be pitied as a fool and looked down upon as a blatant racist; only in Malaysia can you get away with this bullsh**, or perhaps you might have got away with this 200 years ago when slavery was acceptable. You have set the Malaysian monarchy back several years with such a stupid statement. The non-Malays should demand an immediate apology.

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Faris Bigot,

Just because you are born a prince does not necessarily make you a very intelligent person. You are already creating an image for yourself as a BIGOT royalty. It reflects badly on other royal family members who behaves and acts for ALL citizens of Malaysia. For example, HRH Raja Nazrin who is highly intelligent and is highly regarded. He is one example you should follow as he is highly respected by all Malaysians.

You, I am not so sure...

FYI, I did not ask to be born in Malaysia. I did not ask to be born a non- Malay. So, as a 3rd generation Malaysian, is that being treated as equal too much to ask? What have I done wrong to deserved to be categorised as the "non-previlege" package? Aren't you a Malaysian like I am?? Isn't your blood red like mine? Don't you have 2 eyes, 2 ears a nose and a mouth like I do? Don't we breathe the same air? Don't our shit smell? So, why????

Anyway, looking at how you behave, as far as we Malaysians are concern, you do not deserve our respect....!

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Utterly unbecoming of a royalty.
Everyone take note of this guy.
Hope he knows how to use the internet and re*** these comments.
Any other royalty on the Council of Rulers (we know you read this blogs)
Please put a leash on him before he starts racial tensions.
Fact is; the people (chinese, indians & MALAYS) voted and decided.
Who is he standing up for?

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they say empty drum make big noise, it is true here.
check his qualification and you will be surprise; mother from narathiwat, wife from narathiwat thailand.

"AP, KUALA LUMPUR
Wednesday, Nov 17, 2004, Page 5
Malaysia's last bachelor crown prince married a Thai science graduate in a traditional Muslim ceremony witnessed by royal dignitaries from both countries and dubbed a fairytale wedding by the local media.

Tengku Muhammad Faris Petra Sultan Ismail Petra, 35, who is next in line to be the sultan of northeastern Kelantan state, wedded Kangsadal Pipitpakdee, 23, at Kelantan's royal palace late Monday in glittering rites known as "akad nikah," or the solemnizing of marriage.

The prince recited a sacred oath of marriage in front of a senior cleric and then exchanged rings with Kangsadal, who is the daughter of Viroj Pinitpakdee, a former member of Parliament from the southern Thai province of Pattani."

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Responding to the above points,I'd like to say:

1.The Sultan of Selangor among the royalty also has my respect and of other Malaysians for declaring his intention to protect the religious freedom of all his subjects. So too the honourable and distinguished Sultan Abu Bakar of Johor.These are the kind of rulers that the rakyat desire,those who protect the welfare and well being of ALL their subjects.They were/are true statesmen.

2. THe so-called jealously guarded secrets of the chinese's success:essentially HARD WORK and THRIFT,as already pointed out.Also,it helps that you plough back your first profits into the business instead of buying flashy cars and expensive houses/trappings. Priotise paying up your debtors so they'll continue to supply you so you can continue to buy and sell.

3.I personally know Chinese who do not offer bribes ,so not all do,as alluded to by eisham. The policeman usually lets them off when they politely ask him for a compound for their offence.

4.Most of all, can the rallying cry for Malay unity please,please,please stop giving other Malaysians honourable mention as enemies? There must be more creative and less tired ways than that which we have already seen too often from Umno.

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askm,
when the royalty says what you want to hear you support them.
when they say what you dont want to hear you castigate them with profanity.
why not use the same words on raja petra when you dont agree with him.
i dont think so.
because you lack courage.
such profanity being used against a person who may one day be our king is unbecoming of all of you.
there are better ways to go about this.
this is the reason we in pas,dap and now pkr are not going to garner an iota of support from the royalty.
if we are to be the ruling class then we should have some CLASS!!
allahu akhbar!
hidup pas! hidup malaysia!

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UMNO spin doctor tale is always a hot topic. Look at the comments!

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Earlier MCA on Islam & now UMNO on non-Malay equality !!! Stupid MT readers (some not all) do you really want another May 13??? Pls stop falling into BN/UMNO's Evil trap...that want us to kill one another for their STUPID political agenda. Didn't all of us been warned by RPK yesterday in his article ??? Stop...your name calling and cursing of TF...for I believe he is naive to what he said. Trust me.....I saw him reading he speech.

HIDUP RPK!!!
HIDUP pakatan Rakyat !!!

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The mother from wife family tree.

PATTANI: The marriage of Kangsadal Pipitpakdee and Kelantan prince Tengku Muhammad Faris Petra Sultan Ismail Petra will be another union of the Yamu and Kelantan royal families.

The earlier union came about when Kangsadal’s uncle, Tengku Abdul Hamid Tengku Muda, who is of Yamu royal descent, married Tengku Azizah from the Kelantan royalty.

One of the couple’s children is the present Raja Perempuan Kelantan, Tengku Anis, the mother of 35-year-old Tengku Muhammad Faris Petra.

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Tengku Faris
Ask ur daddy send u back to primary school get pass ur history understand indo cina, empayar melaka & so on before u make any speach. U seem so dumb.UPSR Pass kah?

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faris my future sultan of kelantan or perhaps agung one day ( i should never wait for that day to happen)...

you've just proven my point. not all royalty deserves to be treated as a royalty, and not all royalty are smart, certainly not all, deserve respect to be addressed "daulat tuanku"...and i have nothing to be "ampun" about. thank you. im very glad.

your statement has jus made me regreted that i have declined a very good offer to beijing. i had been receiving offers, good offers from overseas few times a year and i decline mostly cos i want to keep my foot in my country. and i love my country. and i for one, agree that we should prevent the brain drain situation...but looks like i've chosen the wrong side, to be a malaysian.

i always tell my friends jokingly, that i made 3 mistakes when i was born:
1. born as malaysian
2. born as commoner & with silver spoon
3. born as chinese (cos not malay)

i guess, these 3 mistakes is now proven with your statement.

it's time to move on. i dont think this country needs me anymore.

btw, i started my own company with zero cash, zero supports, and now has reached couple of million revenues....note: without loans & bribery involved.

so if i could make it, why cant my malay fellows able to make it? i find it strange. it's not about lending hands, it's all about landing your minds.

after 50yrs of independence and we're still talking about which race is more superior than the other. it's saddening & heart breaking indeed.

btw, there's no actual malay race accordingly to anthropology. it's a sub-race derived from mixed of chinese, philippinoes, indians, thais... do some study pls. since you're provided the revenues from the people, that include malay, chinse, indians, sabahans & sarawakians....

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The Mandate of Heaven
--Palden Jenkins


The legitimacy of leaderships and power-structures must increasingly be earned, not assumed.

The people's skill in asserting their leadership, in making intelligent choices and supporting and restraining leaders, is becoming critical.

Forgiveness of the past is crucial. Forgiveness means holding responsible people accountable, while releasing ill-feeling and blame since, ultimately, everyone is responsible.

The big issues of our day require great public attentiveness, clear consideration and soundness of judgement. Without these, the public sacrifices its power.

People-power is driven from below, but it too must be earned: legitimacy and the 'mandate of heaven' applies to the public as well as to its leaders, in the ruthlessly impartial view of the collective unconscious.

Without legitimacy, the corrective magic of change and reform cannot come about.

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** 2. born as commoner & without silver spoon **

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Malaysia was never Malaysia, until the British came. They were bugis, siamese and natives. They were never Malays until the British starts to categorise them as Malay. Malay was a definition by the British and not the Malays themselve.

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Readers please do not fall into traps laid down by the devious AMNO. Please stop taunting and belittling the malays. I assume there are a lot of us malay readers browsing MT, at any time. Those remarks are uncalled off, so is too TF's speech which obviously prepared to solicit uneasiness. We are in troubled waters right now. Hidup PR! Reformasi! http://tuklong-ns.blogspot.com/

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Faris. See what you have done. Do you feel proud now?
If no apologies is forthcoming, the nation will forever remember your racial statements. Go now and PERSONALLY write out an apology for the sake of all the royalties you have belittled.

Next time, please read in advance those notes that are written by someone else. Do not try to be a newscaster. We do have very good ones reading the news in different languages on TV. Did I say different languages?

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Raja Faris why can't the non malays seek equality when they are also citizens, and are paying taxes and contributing to this country and also living here long before malaya became independent. Please explain....

Man, why can't these people just be like YM RPK or YTM Raja Nazri who make sense when they narrate and give us, the rakyat the confidence with what ever they say. May the LORD above bless You all.

best wishes all

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Fed Up betul with this agenda hak melayu. FED UP! Memalukan! Every time when a leader esp. a Malay wants to ensure an undivided support, non-Malay will become the bogeyman! Tolong lar kesian rakyat, please look at ourself first! how are we going to face global challenges if this mentality keeps creeping up ? No wonder Malaysia now is falling behind in everything with this people around! FED UP! For me, I will only support a leader who is capable, knowledgable, wise, hardworking and non corruptable! As for the rich prince and everyday are fed with silver spoons, living under the golden roof he won't understand the hardship of rakyat and how are we being suppressed by those who are in power. CESSH! some people who likes to make such an statement without checking the facts first.

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Before anyone get overly emotional, look at the timing and frequency of these type of remarks. As much as it is to instigate the Malays, it is also, if not more so, to instigate the non-Malays.

Try they may to start a spark, let's be rational and remain cool and douse the spark before it can start a fire.

The people of Malaysia have spoken and have placed the OPPOSITION in the five of the most wealthiest and powerful states in Malaysia. Imagine the POSSIBILITIES that the people of Malaysia have wisely authoured with this new balance of power in the recent elections.

So let our elected representatives in the form of the opposition work for us and let's stop getting overly emotional over each and every remark made for the purpose of instigation.

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Guys....let the Tok guru Nik Azmi as his head of government sort this out.

I believe that the Tok Guru will have the farsightedness and ability to knock some common sense into this royal head.

In Tok Guru we trust.

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I am disappointed with the speech because it hints that non-Malays owe something to the Malays and should accept being treated as lesser citizens of Malaysia. However I will not call anyone names here.

This quid pro quo business on citizenship is a practical solution. It's not one which was merely forced onto the Malays to allow non-Malays citizenship. Even then Malay leaders know of the practical benefit of giving citizenship to non-Malays but still need a face saving move to give the Malays what appear to be a face saving gesture of apparent superiority such as the special rights which never existed before. There was a large population of non-Malays and what do you expect the then British government to do with them? Haul them all to England? Most of them wanted to live on in Malaya. Send them back to China or India? China or India didn't want them back. Let them hang around in Malaya without citizenship status? Will cause problems to the economic and social setup and risk violence. So offer them citizenship.

Why did the non-Malays fight for citizenship then? Because they want to be treated equally in Malaya. They want to vote and decide the direction of their government. To ask non-Malays now to accept inequality based on race is an insult to the forefathers who fought for independence alongside Tunku. Remember not all non-Malays were receptive of the citizenship offer (initial sentiments were lukewarm to the offer) and many did not take it up.

I have no qualms with Bahasa Malaysia as national language and Islam as national religion. What I am rather unclear about is what are these special rights as envisaged by the forefathers who fought for independence for Malaya? There were no NEP and Bumiputera then. You think the non-Malays back then would agree to join forces to fight for independence if they knew that their descendents would be told that they would be treated lesser than those who has special rights?

Remember the special rights were suppossed to be reviewed 15 years after Merdeka which should fall in 1972 but never happened due to events in 1969. What is this mysterious special rights that is so sensitive and could cause so much violence? Check the constitution and see if you can find what these special rights really mean.

Anyway, it defeats the whole purpose of having citizenship if it means you are less of a citizen than another based on race.

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Lucu betul lar... A prince openly urged his people NOT to seek EQUALITY in a democracy country? And he thinks non-Malay dare to ask SPECIAL TREATMENT in Malaysia? Non-Malay only dreams of equality lar. Please at least read and understand the speech before go to the stage.

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WONDER WHETHR HE KNEW WHAT WAS IN THE PREPARED SPEECH THAT HE DELIVERED. MAYBE HE THOUGHT IT WAS SOME NURSERY RHYMES. SO MAY JUST AMPUN HIM

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My only take is why is he jumped out all of sudden and out of the blue and fire his water pistol?

I haven't heard of him before this.

Maybe he's trying to save the situation for UMNO? You know divert attention sort of things to divert some spotlight off UMNO.

Bravo

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We have a problem in our commonwealth history. Both India and Malaysia were in the same quagmire. In India there was the partition solution, which was very very bad to many quarters as millions lost their lives. Here formerly in Malaya there was this social pact that didnt end that way, thank God. So now we are truly in a historical dilema. We must have calm and informed reexamination at the top. What we do after this will again be irreversible, er, you know that time travel paradox thingy.

Redhuan D. Oon
(will try to reexamine history myself in my own blog http://padi-malaysia.blogspot.com)

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"that Malays had been coerced into giving non-Malays citizenship..."

To be accurate, we have to say that the British would never have granted this country independence if more than 1/2 of its population then weren't accorded citizenship or given a constitutional way to acquire citizenship.

All races fought for independence together in the true spirit of camaraderie.
No one Malayan party forced the other.

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It appears that this member of royalty sees that racial exclusion and racial rights as the only means to how Malays should and can compete against the other races.

So how do we compete against foreigners - Singaporeans, Chineses, Indians, Americans, EU, Aussies ? Are we 'supreme' over them too ?

If he is not careful, the rakyat will render his royalty obselete and irrelevant. You only have status if the rakyat accords you that status. It can be taken away very quickly.

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Oi relakslah. The tengku is merely expressing his opinion. Dont tell me we have become like BN fellas where there is no right to dissent. I bet when you people are in power, you will put people in ISA just like Dr M did. Cool down. Rationalise. Respect the right of others to voice out their oponion no matter how divergent they are from ours. There are supremacists everywhere, be it Australia, Germany. Hollandia, USA etc.

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It's very disappointing to hear this being said by a member of the royal family. More so after hearing many enlightening things said by other members of royalty such as RPK and Raja Nazrin. And even more so after a very inspiring election in which all races worked together.

The prince says "Malay unity is the core of national unity". He's wrong. It should be "Malaysian unity is the core of national unity".

Despite being treated as lesser beings, the Indians, Chinese and other minorities have fought and died for this country. And it happened even before independence, long before becoming citizens. World War II is an example. The Indians formed the bulk of the British-led Allied Army, and fought against the Japanese in many places, including at Badang and Sabak beaches in Kelantan. After the fall of Malaya and Singapore, the Chinese formed the bulk of the resistance against the Japanese. But all this has been forgotten. So has contributions of the Chinese, Indians and others in later wars, including the Emergency, and the Konfrontasi.

What happens if Malaysia is invaded again? Wouldn't you want all races to unite to fight for this country, as one nation? So, if you want people to fight for this country, then why not treat them equally?

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We don't really need to take Tengku Faris seriously, do we?

He has certainly caused some excitement to entertain himself, to which he is fully entitled in his capacity as a human being just like you and me, not as royalty.

He has probably not done an honest day's work and needs his subjects to continue giving him his allowance. I can think of dignified and highly respected royalty who are educated and intelligent.

From his words, we can conclude rationally that Tengku Faris would love to convince the Malays that they will remain in the dinosaur age forever. He is bewildered by the modern progressive Malay who will inexoorably continue to progress in a world that is inexorably passing by the Tengku.

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This is why the people love the PRINCE OF PERAK more than any other royalty...if only the kelantan prince re*** all these comments...he'd probably learn a thing a two...in the end..GOD WILL DECIDE...the next course of action....

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the raja muda of kelantan should indicate where in the malaysian constitution it says that the chinese and indians were not entitled to citizenship and this was forced out from the malays. where do the words quid pro quo appear in the constitution. does his highness profess to be a constitutional law expert. statements that incite racial hatred should be avoided by all parties especially parties that are entrusted with the people's welfare by accident of birth.

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Tengku F,P
On behalf of my fellow malaysian,Anak malaysia,non malay bumi,I say loudly objection by raising my fingger to U ,,l,, yo,yo,ne ne na..........

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Hope Prof Datuk Khoo Kay Kim the academician Historian (Amends our history books according to what BN dictates) of the Lingam Case could enlighten us.

If majority of the Indians & Chinese were immigrants flooding this country working as laborers then. What were the Malays doing to be complacent instead of being hired by our colonial powers?

Were they all farmers, traders or perhaps just too rich to work.

50 years of BN rule....and decades of other colonial rulers, need some more hand outs?

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Racial Supremacy - the biggest con-game going on in Malaysia.
(the whole world is laughing at this absurdity - only in Msia we have this initiative)

Self-labels of 'supreme' is akin to slapping stickers of "smartest, richest, best,.." on your forehead and parading yourself around town.
(if its so important and meaningful for you to have these labels, no problem - i will print 25mill of these labels for you foc)

Self-Esteem development does not come from self-labels.

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hiryu said:- "Maybe it's a case of trying to do a Raja Nazrin..."
Well said but this faris moron belongs to a far different class as Raja Nazrin.
He's like a upsr dropout in comparison with a PhD intellect.
Forget about doing a Raja Nazrin..... it's way beyond comparison.
How about comparing with an orangutan?

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NO TO RACIAL DIVIDES

INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION! INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION!
INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION! INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION!

NO TO RACIAL DIVIDES

INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION! INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION!
INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION! INTEGRATION NOT SEGREGATION!



TOWARDS A GLOBALIZED MALAYSIANS

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there...you see?. I had said it all along that no matter what shit pakatan we hay have, the malays (and now, their sultan as well) will always play the racial card whenver they fell their liar is encroached). Its all this inferior complex that is inherent in them. Let them whine on cos in this modern world where the race barried is falling apart, they will be the only ones left standing in a stadium where the global spectators keep thinning by the day.

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Peoples of the world are now showing how civilised they are by dismantling the racial membrane that was once a part of every man's anatomy. But still in this corner of asia, malays and their ruler are going against the global traffic flow. Now that's a laugh.....

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Perhaps he had forgotten that his ancestors once had to send the 'Bungah Emas' as tribute to the Siamese kingdom. If the Siamese had not returned Kelanatn to his ancestors, the kelantanese would be eating nasi tomyam rather than nasi lemak.....
Agree or not everybody??

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There is so much shame in the air. I mean......we are now in a new chapter where the different races are feeling warm towards each other. And here pops up a clown, remnants of the bunga emas era, dressed in oversized royal attires, splashing mud on what has been achieved lately. He has that UMNO odour

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Fellow Malaysian,
I suggest that this CLOWN PRINCE should apologize to our Fellow Malaysian coz this is a very racial,insatiable,injudicious& inhumane issue.
APOLOGIZE....APOLOGIZE.....APOLOGIZE!!!!!!!!!

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keris wielding again i see!! we are in the process of getting rid of Kerismudin, Tengku is not absolutely immune too.

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SOMEONE PLS CHECK TO SEE WHAT TENGKU FARIS SAID CAN BE CONSIDERED SEDITIOUS???
OF COS DON'T EXPECT OUR POLIS TO DO ANYTHING.

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wow!!! I thougyht I was the only one outraged by this moron's statement. Respect must be earned, not given. It is a shame this Kelantan crowned prince doesn't know how to behave like a prince. I have undying respect for my present Raja, Duli Yang Maha Mulia Seri Paduka Yang DiPertuan Raja. Daulat Tuanku. I hope whoever this Faris guy is that he will never be a raja of Malaysia because I will never respect him. I hope he will rot in Kelantan.

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This is one Prince who is not in tune with his rakyat!.

Should take lessons from the Sultan of Terengganu.

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Dear Tuanku,

I have to say that you are wrong , very wrong , you know why , for those of us born in the Straits Settlements ie either in Penang or Malacca that is before independence 31st August 1957 are exempted from having to apply for a citizenship certificate , which means our citizenship is automatic . So where's the logic that that Malays have been coerced into giving non-malays citizenship ? Tiada make sense lah TanKu .

If your logic is that 2.7 million citizenship were given to non-malays in the Federated Malay States , again it does not make sense lah .

In the run up to independence the Unfederated Malay States were brought into the Federation along with the Federated Malay States and the Straits Settlements. Three 'nations' were brought together to form Malaya. When we got our Independence and Malaya was formed , the binding agreement in the form of the Constitution superceded all other agreements , treaties , laws that were in place . In other words everyone became citizens of the new nation , Malaya with one exception ,those born in Penang and Malacca need not apply for a citizenship certificate , however those born in the other states ie Federated and Unfederated need to apply for a citizenship certificate . So where does it show that Malays have been coerced into giving Non-Malays citizenship ?? The non malays had no dealings with the Malays. All dealings were with the British.

So Tuanku , jangan buat BODOH , jangan di peralatkan oleh Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu , ini NGO di tubuhkan oleh UMNO sebab UMNO sekarang mau isu , isu sensitive ini di mainkan oleh NGO ini dan mereka sudah realise kalau mereka main dengan api , saperti isu ,isu sensitive ini , tangan mereka akan di bakar lagi saperti di March 8th 2008 ini .

So Tuanku I ingat Tuanku lebeh baik minta Ma Af kepada semua . Sekian .

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Why can't we have princes like Raja Zarin, who when he opens his mouth says things that gives hope and encouragement to all Malaysians. His comments and speeches are truly inspirational and makes one proud of the Malaysian Royalty. Then we have Tengku Faris, who lends his weight to people who create tension and fear, because they lack the intellect to see issues. Malaysians went to vote and voted in for candidates of their choice. is that a crime? How does that threaten any community? Maybe Tengku Faris should have told Malaysians whom to vote for. Get a life Tengku. I can assure you the non-Malays in this country are very loyal to the royalty. They see how princes like Raja Zarin play a vital role in the dynamics that shape our nation. Please remember Tengku, that you are royalty to all Malaysians. Don't get used by politicians and bigots and racialists who hate anythin that is not like them.

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“The Malay rulers are the head of the Islamic religion and Malaysia is a Islamic country (negara Islam), not secular. We have our own formula (as a country) which is different from others,” he added, drawing thunderous applause from the crowd.

The HRH Kelantan Crown Prince trying to emulated HRH Raja Muda of Perak.However he didnt come close to HRH Raja Nazrin educational qualification...So not much quality lah ucapan Tengku...

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written by hiryu, April 12, 2008 | 23:00:45

I'm stressing again, do not fall into their trap...DO NOT get into the name calling of the Royalty. It's what they really want. Again, remember what YM RPK cautioned us. Do not give this hard fought victory away!
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Yes, I agree with this guy hiryu, I smell something fishy, It is a ploy to get the non Malays upset and say unsavoury things about the royalty , then it will be followed by accusations that the non Malays are agianst the Malay Royalty. Then these people will inflame the Malays against the non Malays and vice versa.

This is a very dangerous trap set by some devious people to set matters in the country aflame so that they will have the excuse to cause trouble and grab power . WARNING ! WARNING ! Stop all inflamatory posting.

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What Tengku Faris has said will be implanted on eveybody mind. You will never get the respect of the people out of this statement.Face giving are given by people but respect is thrown away by him.

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Sorry lah I dont take history subject dulu.
Kelantan was the first place in Malaya to be occupied by the Japanese, who invaded on December 8, 1941. During the Japanese occupation, Kelantan came again under control of Siam, but after the defeat of Japan in August 1945, Kelantan reverted to British rule.

Before occupation of Siames, Japan than back to British, Kelantan was under whos rule aah??

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I think Kelantan last time is part of United Kingdom, maybe.
But because of the "buduu" all then white people ran to England, only the non white stays until today.

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Why Now? Why Not Before?

Link: http://www.kingsmary.blogspot.com/

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Golden Chersonese was the original name of Malaya whereas Malaya is a similar name of a river found in Sumatra.

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This is so ****ing sad. I had friends from other countries who emailed me to congratulate us (malaysians) after our dare devil performance in the last general election. And almost all of them in their own subtle ways, implied that they are surprised that malays are not as tunnelled vision as they think.
And here we have a 'prince' to white wash it all away with just an idiotic racial laced sentence. Come on man...a 'prince' making such an inferior statement. Sorry lah my malay brothers, I think you still have a long fight to raise yr he*** in this world. With people like this in yr midst its....

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Malaysiaputra: This is a very dangerous trap set by some devious people to set matters in the country aflame so that they will have the excuse to cause trouble and grab power . WARNING ! WARNING ! Stop all inflamatory posting.

OOOPPPSS........THIS CHAP HAS A POINT!!! PLEASE HEED HIS WARNING. LETS STOP IT HERE.!!! THANKS MALAYSIAPUTRA.

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He contributes nothing to his state or this country and his family sucks the blood of the very people he purportedly defending and lives on our tax money.

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What is wrong with this tainted blood fellow? May be he should loosen his head gear a little and let his brain develop. May be he should step out of the corridor of mecca and look at the rest of the world.

Are the non-malays asking for too much that the entire nation (read government and malays) will become broke overnight?

Probably the chinese should drift northwards or elsewhere, whilst the indians westwards. The north-east winds is srong enough to return the rest to their homeland, leaving the country to the oiginal people. How about that?

Would Malaysia want to be treated but not as an equal member in the organisations like Asean, Commonwealth, OIC and United Nations?

I would suggest Raja Nazrin organise a seminar for people like Tg Fart is.

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This is the very reason why some Malaysians leave Malaysia - small and petty minded individuals like the Crown Prince Faris, whose sole goal is to cause anger and hurt to the very people whose blood, sweat and tears made malaysia what it is today. These very people who could only get government contracts if they could afford to bribe a government officials. I am sure they didnt want to but in order to build a better Malaysia they had to pay. Many millions of Ringit gone missing - probably into the pockets of Bn elite so they can build their large fortified houses and holiday homes and homes for their mistresses and lead extravagant lifestyles. The Royalty would not have survived if BN had no backhanders in order to pay them to do as they were told. Who told Faris to say these disgusting words?

The Chinese and Indian races of Malaysia have every right to citizenship. Many of these citizens have been in malaysia for generations, hundreds of years. They have lived and died and are more than eligible to claim citizenship. And are the royalty of Malaysia not diluted by these two races? You cannot claim your good looks to just one race.

I think it is time for the Royalty to be abolished. Let them go out to work and earn a proper living. Then they will know what hard work is all about.

Better still, Let, as others have written before me, Malacca,Penang and Sabah and Sarawak become independant from Malaysia. How quickly these states will grow and prosper.

Faris, you have never suffered. You probably havent done a good days work nor made your own millions from scratch....get a life.

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see malaysian unplug's comments on this issue

http://malaysianunplug.blogspot.com/2008/04/kelantan-crown-prince-tengku-faris.html

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