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Another issue that is utmost sensitive to Malaysians, in particular to the non-Malays, is talk of May 13. Rest assured this will be one subject that will also be exploited to the hilt. As it is, the Umno-owned newspapers are already classifying the results of the March 2008 general election as a repeat of the May 1969 general election.

THE CORRIDORS OF POWER

Raja Petra Kamarudin

Keng Yaik criticises DAP's stand

Gerakan adviser Datuk Seri Dr Lim Keng Yaik said he could not understand why DAP supports a menteri besar from Pas for Perak when Pas' objectives for a theocratic Islamic state remains unchanged.

His comments came as the new Perak menteri besar, Pasir Panjang state assemblyman and Perak Pas liaison secretary Muhammad Nizar Jamaluddin was sworn in before the Regent of Perak, Raja Dr Nazrin Shah, at Istana Iskandariah in Kuala Kangsar yesterday.

He blamed the younger party leaders in DAP for going against the principles set by older party stalwarts.

"Karpal has said 'over my dead body' before when Pas propagated its Islamic state policy.

"Immediately after the naming of a Pas menteri besar for Perak, DAP adviser Lim Kit Siang called for the boycott of the swearing-in ceremony by its party members.

"Why are they now supporting a Pas menteri besar?"

He added that it did not matter if it was the Perak royalty's choice, since the consensus was in the hands of the state assembly members.

"They could have pulled their weight and opposed it even though the palace picked Muhammad Nizar. Instead, they went ahead and supported it."

On another note, Dr Lim said he was surprised to hear comments by Pas vice-president Datuk Husam Musa that the opposition party was confident it could soon set up an Islamic federal government and that there was growing support among the Chinese and Indians for the party's political struggle.

"I find it hard to believe that the Chinese and Indians in Perak want this.

"I will fight against this policy till the very last, in keeping with our objective as a party which cuts across all racial lines." - NST

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NST Editorial: Accepting the people's verdict

IN conferring on the rulers the right to appoint as menteri besar a member of the state legislative assembly who is likely to command the confidence of the majority of that body, the state constitutions seem to make it quite clear that the rulers have to accept whichever single party, or coalition of parties, that commands a majority in the state legislature.

In normal circumstances, the sultan has no choice but to appoint the person who is in the best position to receive the support of the majority in the state assembly. However, circumstances have been far from normal this past week.

In the case of Perak, it stems from the inconclusive outcome of the March 8 polls, in which no single party emerged with an outright majority. In the case of a "hung assembly" like the one in Perak, there was an element of choice because it was not clear who could command a majority and there appeared to have been three people who could claim to do so. In the event, the Regent of Perak performed his constitutional duty as a disinterested arbiter with dignity and distinction.

While the developments in Perak have been an electoral and constitutional rarity, the situation in Terengganu and Perlis should have been clear-cut cases where there should not have been any doubts about what needs to be done.

As it happened, it was the challenge to the custom that the national party leader has the final word on the appointment of the menteri besar, not a defiance of the constitution, that appears to have created all that uncertainty in Perlis. It is fundamentally a problem for the party. In any case, this is a matter of convention, rather than law, which does not have to be accepted without question.

The same cannot be said of the formal constitutional rules that define the ceremonial and official duties of the rulers. The written constitutions set out the limits to the discretionary power of the rulers in appointing a menteri besar.

Whatever their personal preferences and assessments, and whether or not they regard that person as the best man for the office, they are bound by the constitution to choose the individual most likely to command the support of the state assembly. As constitutional monarchs, they should not be dragged into political disputes.

Certainly, they have every right to be consulted on the appointments. But the rulers cannot arbitrarily make and unmake governments. This right properly belongs to the rakyat.

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Pas should give up its avowed aim to turn the country into an Islamic state if it came to power, DAP national chairman Karpal Singh said yesterday.

Karpal said Pas should be realistic. "The Federal Constitution, clearly reflects that Malaysia is a secular state, not an Islamic state."

Karpal, who welcomed the clarification by Pas vice-president Husam Musa that his party would not be setting up an Islamic government at the federal level, added: "I call upon Pas to publicly state that Malaysia is a secular state."

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A couple of days after the initial shock of Barisan Nasional's 'defeat' in the 8 March 2008 general election had worn off, Umno held a post-mortem at its headquarters. The meeting was chaired by Umno's Secretary-General and the purpose of the solemn gathering was to find out what went wrong.

In a pre-election meeting in Sabah a few weeks earlier, Prime Minister and Umno President Abdullah Ahmad Badawi told the gathering of Umno chiefs that 'this election is going to be the first election in 50 years since Merdeka that the voters will vote based on candidates'. The voters will decide who to vote for based on the background of the candidates and not based on which party the candidates represent, argued Abdullah, so the candidates Barisan Nasional fields is going to be a very important element.

That has now been proven terribly wrong. If you consider some of the candidates that the opposition fielded, you can't help but wonder, out of 26 million Malaysians, or at least 15 million Malaysians of voting age, aren't there any other suitable candidates they could find? To be fair though, overall, many of the opposition candidates are more capable and more qualified that the Barisan Naisonal candidates. But there are a handful who leave much to be desired. Surprisingly, however, these 'lesser' candidates managed to beat the higher-profile Barisan Nasional candidates.

This election was not about the candidates at all. It was not even about the strength of the opposition parties. It was about 'anyone but Barisan Nasional', as Hishamuddin Rais put it. But who was the one who gave Abdullah this misinformation? Was this a deliberate attempt to mislead Abdullah? It appears like there are certain elements within Umno, or probably within the intelligence agencies, who wanted to lead Abdullah up the garden path. Abdullah's reading of the voters was totally off. Barisan Nasional made a tactical blunder and this blunder was because of the misinformation that was presented to it.

PAS, however, appears to be more savvy and in touch with the ground. It knew that Kedah, Penang, Perak and Selangor would fall and it transferred many of its key players to these four states. It also knew that Terenggnu was an uphill battle so PAS advised its candidates to forget about Terengganu and instead focus on Kedah, Penang, Perak and Selangor where they would be assured of winning. PAS also knew that it would gain more ground in Kelantan and that Kedah would be added to the states under PAS control. That was why it was ready to form the government even before Malaysians took to the polls, and which is why there was little delay in forming the new governments in these states. If anyone was caught off-guard it was DAP and PKR, and of course Barisan Nasional.

DAP's Lim Guan Eng did not have such optimism and he almost did not contest in Penang. He was very undecided and only after persistent coaxing from his many supporters in Penang did he eventually take the plunge -- but even then not really knowing whether he was committing political hara kiri by contesting in a state they were not sure whether they would be massacred or emerge the victor. His wishy-washy decision to contest in Penang paid off though and now he is the Chief Minister of that state. The same went for Karpal's Singh's son, Gobind Singh Deo, who almost contested in Johore -- whereby if he had he would not, today, be the Member of Parliament for Puchong, Selangor (or a Member of Parliament at all for that matter). Comparing PAS to DAP, PAS knew exactly which seats in which states to contest whereas DAP was wishy-washy and kept changing its mind many times, not really sure which was the best decision to take.

This is probably because of the different aspirations of PAS and DAP. PAS contests the elections with intent to form the government whereas DAP just wants to deny Barisan Nasional its two-thirds majority so that Malaysians can enjoy the benefit of a strong opposition. Yes, PAS wants to be the government whereas DAP just wants to be a strong opposition, but still an opposition nevertheless. This is the difference in 'culture' between PAS and DAP. And PKR, of course, just wants to ensure that Anwar Ibrahim becomes the next Prime Minister of Malaysia by any and all means possible.

It is very difficult to reconcile the three different 'cultures' of PAS, DAP and PKR. But, today, their paths have inevitably crossed and, whether they like it or not, their fortunes are intertwined and just as inseparable as Siamese triplets. They need one another to be able to have a big enough majority to form the government in most of the five states the opposition now controls so they need to continue being Siamese triplets or die.

But the problem is, PAS, DAP and PKR do not share the same brain. Because of this, each thinks differently. What a dilemma they face when their hearts beat as one while their heads tell them opposite things.

And this is what the government-controlled mainstream media is going to exploit to the hilt. Since PAS, DAP and PKR share the same heart but think differently, can they drive a wedge into the three and cause their hearts to separate as well? If this can be done, then the opposition coalition will collapse because once their hearts move away from one another the coalition will certainly die an untimely death. Reading the above news reports from the mainstream media tells the whole story. Keng Yaik is raising the spectre of Islam and is attempting to put DAP on the defensive. NST's editorial slams the Rulers in a hope that the hate campaign will escalate. In short, Islam is bad, the Chinese have sold out, the Malays are losing out to the Chinese, and the Rulers need to be put in their place.

It started with The Star reporting Husam Musa as having declared that Malaysia will be turned into an Islamic State once PAS gains control of the federal government. That is at least what the heading in the news report said although if you read on you will not find any mention of it in the news item. What The Star hoped would happen is that Malaysians would read the heading without actually reading the news report and based on this heading alone the non-Muslims will rise up in anger.

The government knows that some DAP leaders always react to mainstream newspaper reports in spite of most Malaysians no longer believing what the government-controlled media says. And, true to form, Karpal Singh did react and demanded that PAS make a public declaration that Malaysia is a Secular State and will remain so.

Instead of demanding that PAS make this public declaration, it would make more sense if Karpal takes a deep breath, count to ten, and then come out with his rebuttal of the news report by the MCA-owned newspaper. Being a prominent lawyer and long-time politician who never asks nor gives his adversaries any quarters, Karpal could have easily torn The Star to pieces.

I have personally seen Karpal in action in both the courts and Parliament and he could have easily ripped The Star into a million pieces even while sitting in his wheelchair. But he did not do that. Instead, he aimed his sights on PAS whereas he could have aimed it at The Star and this is exactly what the government spin machinery anticipated he would do and he did as anticipated.

Karpal could have brilliantly argued, as he always brilliantly argues in court and Parliament, that PAS contested merely 65 Parliament seats and won less that half the seats it contested. It would need at least 150 seats in Parliament to amend the Federal Constitution of Malaysia to allow it to transform Malaysia into an Islamic State. Alas, Karpal did not do this and instead demanded that PAS declare they harboured no ambitions of transforming Malaysia into an Islamic State.

If Karpal had 'defended' PAS by rebutting The Star report and by declaring the news report as a pack of lies, the perception created would be that DAP and PAS are of one heart though they may think differently. Now, the opposite perception has been created and Barisan Nasional knows that if it mentions 'PAS' and 'Islamic State' in the same breath that would get the DAP leaders hot around the collar.

The opposition, in particular DAP, has to know how to separate fact from spin and not react too fast to any mainstream media spin. Even before the five opposition-led state governments could take their oath of office, a plan was hatched to sabotage the state governments and drive a wedge into the fragile opposition alliance. All Barisan Nasional needs is for just one of the three opposition coalition members to break away and the state government of Perak and Selangor would fall. And this will ensure that the disgust of the voters will achieve the rest come next election when the other states would be given back to Barisan Nasional as well, save maybe for Kelantan.

Another issue that is utmost sensitive to Malaysians, in particular to the non-Malays, is talk of May 13. Rest assured this will be one subject that will also be exploited to the hilt. As it is, the Umno-owned newspapers are already classifying the results of the March 2008 general election as a repeat of the May 1969 general election. Though the newspapers did not quite say so, a 'whispering' and SMS campaign has been launched to give an impression that a similar 'post-1969' remedy to the ruling party 'defeat' is in the cards.

The police have responded by warning the public that any 'rumour-mongering' of race riots a la May 13 will be severely dealt with. Actually, not many Malaysians have heard this rumour. However, since the police 'warning', many who were not aware of this rumour have now been made aware of it. And Malaysians are such. Rumours are believed because most rumours in Malaysia have in the end proven to be fact. When Abdullah denied the rumour that Parliament would be dissolved and the following day he did just that, that proved rumours are not rumours but fact. When Abdullah denied he was getting married and soon after that Malaysia was entertained to the thrills of a 'first family' wedding, that too proved rumours are not rumours but fact. So, all you need to do is to deny the rumour of an impending race riot and most Malaysians would rush out to buy extra stocks of rice and sardines.

It is easy to fool Malaysians into believing rumours. Just spread the rumour far and wide and get someone in authority to deny it. Thereon the rumour becomes the gospel.

The opposition is no help either. All this talk of 'no to an Islamic State' and 'no more NEP' are stuff discontentment is made of. After all, it is not the government that is saying all this but the opposition itself. Therefore, all they need to do is raise issues like Muslims are restless and Malays are unhappy and this is all it takes to start the rush to stock up with rice and sardines.

But 1969 was different. In 1969, opposition meant Chinese and Indians and ruling party meant Malays. So, if you separate Malaysia into opposition and ruling party, then the country gets separated into non-Malays and Malays as well. Therefore, when the ruling party loses and the opposition wins this also means that the Malays lose and the non-Malays win. This is a perfect formula for racial conflict.

Today, ruling party and opposition can no longer be separated by race. It was the non-Malays who suffered most in the recent general election when the ruling party got trounced in many states. And the opposition that trounced it is a mix of Malays, Chinese and Indians. The ruling party loss was not a Malay loss and the opposition win was not a non-Malay win. In fact, four of the five opposition-led states have Malay Menteris Besar. How can you say that the Chinese won these states? Furthermore, in states like Selangor and Perak, Chinese votes alone could not have delivered the states to the opposition. The Malays and Indians helped as well. It was either a partnership of all races or nothing at all.

The Malays realise that with the fall of the five states they have lost nothing. The Chinese and Indians also realise that the Malays are very important to the cause and that a unity of all races is crucial to an opposition win. Furthermore, Malays, Chinese and Indians all realise that state governments can only be formed and kept in place if PAS, DAP and PKR stay united and don't break up. It is not to the interest of the Malays, Chinese and Indians to start anything. Anyway, there is no reason to start anything because no one has lost out in the new formula.

And this is where the Mamaks come in. Mamaks are Indian Muslims. Some years back, the Indian Muslims and Indian Hindus in Penang clashed over the proximity of a temple and a mosque which both sides alleged was 'disturbing' them. Resulting from this misunderstanding, some bloody clashes erupted which threatened to turn into a blood bath such as what we have frequently-enough witnessed in India. Anwar Ibrahim was forced to personally go down to the ground to prevent what was about to turn into another 'May 13'.

Last Friday, 1,000 or so Mamaks organised a demonstration in front of the Penang State Government headquarters. They were upset that a 'Chinese' Chief Minister had announced the end of the New Economic Policy in Penang. The Malays were not upset. The Malays did not come out to protest. In fact, PAS even endorsed the announcement and said that it agreed with the proposal. But the Mamaks were upset and they demonstrated their displeasure last Friday.

The Mamaks want the government to pass a law that makes calling them 'Mamak' illegal. They want laws passed so that those who continue calling them Mamaks can be sent to jail. And they want a new law passed to declare all Mamaks as Malays and to call them Malays and not Mamaks from thereon.

The Mamaks, therefore, have to demonstrate that they are more Malay than the Malays and more Muslim that the Arabs. And to prove this they came out to demonstrate against Lim Guan Eng's announcement that the NEP in Penang would end even if the Malays themselves could not be bothered and even if PAS supports Guan Eng's announcement. In a nutshell, the Mamaks are ashamed that they were born as Indians and insist they be classified as Malays.

But the Malays will not respond to the Mamaks' call to take to the streets, in particular the PAS and PKR Malays. In fact, the only reason the PAS and PKR Malays come out is to ensure that the Mamaks do not run riot and start spilling Chinese blood. Yes, May 13 can never happen again in spite of the rise of the Mamaks. The Malays will ensure that no wannabe Malay Mamaks will upset the peace, stability and tranquillity that exists between the Malays, Chinese and Indian Hindus. As for the Indian Muslims.....well, they need to earn their Malayness so allow them this little sideshow to enable them to go to the government and say, “Are we Malay enough for you now?”

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written by LKO, March 18, 2008 14:53:46
RPK, I think all the fellas in PKR, DAP and PAS should shut up a little. Knowing that the MSM is just waiting for a miss placed statements to use it to stir the public, slight more general verbage should be use.

Why push things so hard when BN is now running like a headless chicken. Just steady the state administration and the rest will be easier. AAB's pants is on fire and BR/BA folks don't need to help him put it out.
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written by Sunnysoul5, March 18, 2008 14:57:20
In order to mitigate the fear of racial and religious overtones in BR, it is best to go ahead with one uniform identity under a single party concept. This way the old stigmas will simply fizzle out and the "opposition" may not have any further issues to harp about.

If Obama can be accepted by Democrats in the run-up to the Presidential nomination, the people of USA are beginning to show signs of accepting religions other than Christianity. Obama is a Muslim converted to Christian many years back. The world is definitely changing and hopefully for the better.
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written by malsia1206, March 18, 2008 15:01:18
May 13 is a non-issue. Just like the NEP which had expired since the early 90s. It's only the politically-corrupt who harp on this to gain political mileage. Especially for those whose personal stakes are high and whether they make or break. But the cost and consequence could be castatrophic. So the clear message must be sent out to these devious politicians and all and sundry who even harbour the slightest thought of it - lay off and do not even think of it. Self-destruction would be the ultimate folly, even more when you drag your whole family, friends and the Nation down in a hell of fire. It's a chapter from our inglorius past best learnt to avoid in the future for the good of all generations.
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written by East Highlander, March 18, 2008 15:04:12
If it happens, I will strive to keep my Malay, Chinese and Indians brothers and sisters safe.
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written by krising1, March 18, 2008 15:07:08
The ghost of May 13 has been exorcised. Anyone who heard the Malays at the opposition ceramahs know this. They were ready to help their poor Indian brothers and sisters. This is a fantastic development.

The mamaks are a danagerous breed. They want to be more UMNOputeras than the UMNOputeras themselves. Their dream of being a master race will remain a dream only.
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written by choong, March 18, 2008 15:10:11
Dear YM RPK,

DAP leadership should understand that their increasing grassroot support are based on anti-BN sentiment currently running high. A number of these people are not anti-Islam. In fact, few will dispute Islam as the religion of the Federation. The non-muslims only ask for their rights, guaranteed under the Constitution be preserved and defended (which PAS has many times over said they will and I take it as factual given that they did walk the talk in Kelantan). The recent call to apologise as seen in LKS blog is a good indicator of what DAP grassroot feel concerning this power sharing.
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written by Heikal, March 18, 2008 15:10:38
I urging everyone NOT TO SUPPORT MUKHRIZ LETTER ASKING PAK LAH TO RESIGN. This because there is are divisions forming in UMNO. dIVISION 1 IS the one that want Pak Lah to resign. Division 2 is lead by Khairy that does not want Pak Lah to leave as Khairy has his own self interest and Pak Lah is the only one will listen to him. If Pak Lah stay aroung for another term, UMNO will be divided therefore destroy itself. Even we will have a good PM from UMNO, there will still be racial politics.
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written by malaysianohope, March 18, 2008 15:16:37
Abang Pete,

Another insightful opinion on the state of relationship vis DAP, PKR and PAS. That's why you have been bestowed the title of Moderator for the 3 parties coz there's no other suitable candidate. But then again try not to kotok the DAP too much ar. We need impartial peace maker against a once potent enemy in the form of bn which is still kicking but shall ultimately be thrown into the dustbin of history.

As for the scumbags mamak traitors think we should stop patronising their shops. Show them who is the BOSS.
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written by mypanida, March 18, 2008 15:17:34
Mamaks are the instigators and i will start the ball rolling by by boycotting their stall...
I will start buying drinks and drink sirap from the Malay shop and air tahu from the Chinese stall and i will have my banana leaf rice from the Indians...
i know my gesture are nothing but if those so called Mamak could be hit at their pockets then they will lash out at their so called higher up MAMAKS that pretended to be Malays that their agendas are not working.We have to start pulling those MAMAKS off their high horses.

Those Mamak have been squandering everybody's goodwill for so long that they have to be put in place.

by the way, those MAMAK foods SUCKS and UNHEALTHY and from now on i am patronising Malays Chinese and Indian stalls....

I will start by boycotting their services and their products until they start realising that they are Malaysians. OR are they ??? shameless Mamak Mandaliars you might as well take with you your MAMAK KUTTY MAHATHIR.
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written by Rozlan, March 18, 2008 15:23:49
Last Friday, 1,000 or so Mamaks organised a demonstration in front of the Penang State Government headquarters. They were upset that a 'Chinese' Chief Minister had announced the end of the New Economic Policy in Penang. The Malays were not upset. The Malays did not come out to protest. In fact, PAS even endorsed the announcement and said that it agreed with the proposal. But the Mamaks were upset and they demonstrated their displeasure last Friday


A few of my chinese friends receive a sms to boycott mamak nasi kandar restaurant smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif Its very funny.You are right Pete.I had asked my Penang friend.He had confirmed that most malays never involved in the demonstration..They prefer wait and see attitude before they react.I dont understand why the mamaks did it..Most of them are not even bumis.. smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif

Things started to get more funny you know..
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written by Sudahlah tu, March 18, 2008 15:25:09
AAB sudah menggantikannya dengan Feb 13 lah.
Habis cerita.
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written by babakl, March 18, 2008 15:27:09
What is mamak after all, Noise not like thunder which even a roaring thunder does not garentee rain will follow. This is a cry in the wildeness. Only those who r consider they r not wanted will stoop this low crying for acceptance. Sorry to u for such stupid act.As for keng yiek, u can yak yak until the cows go home. Go sleep and have a rest in peace.
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written by Chuan, March 18, 2008 15:27:56
I have to admit that I definitely did not vote because of the candidate. The Oppposition talent in my town is definitely not someone I could count on, but at that point of time, the idea is to vote anything else(animals or human) but Barisan Nasional.
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written by Sudahlah tu, March 18, 2008 15:29:41
Saya berharap yang semua ahli DAP harus memahami pengabungan dengan parti lain untuk formasi BR merupakan tindakan yang paling bernas dan efektif untuk meningkatkan suara rakyat di Parlimen.
BR telah membuka pintu kepada semua suara rakyat serta sebagai pengawal peribadi rakyat semasa bersidang di Parlimen.
Merekalah yang akan menjaga kepentingan rakyat dan memastikan perlaksanaan kerajaan tidak berusulkan korupsi ataupun kronisma.
Merekalah yang membantu rakyat menegakkan perlembagaan negara.
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written by Ranulaw, March 18, 2008 15:33:03
Ever wondered why these DAP comments seem to come mainly from the old guards whereas the newer leaders are silent? To me, it's because the old guards still have the old racial mindset. Wake up lah. This is a new Malaysia, which explains why we have such an unprecedented election result. Just remember the opposition would not have won if not for the cooperation of all 3 parties, viz DAP, PAS & PKR. Work together & u r the govt, disperse & u r just toothless barking dogs like before. Consider both these scenerios before opening your mouths in future.
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written by Malaysiaku, March 18, 2008 15:38:26
Keng Yiak has no right to criticize DAP's collaboration with PAS. Gerakan's collaboration with the racist UMNO party was to me an even bigger betrayer of the Chinese race. Keng Yiak seems to have found his voice now after he had left BN as a Minister and is starting his saliva war on DAP. adey, old man, where were you when UMNO's Kerismuddin waved his kris? You were able to shut up then and let Kerismuddin's arrogant defiance to state that he will wave the keris again in the next UMNO GE.

The people of Malaysia knew that DAP, PAS and PKR are working together as the Barisan Rakyat. So, whatever sandiwara between you and Ong Ka Chuan is but nothing to the Rakyat now. The fact that DAP allows PAS to be the Menteri Besar of Perak goes to show that there is give and take amongst themselves unlike in BN where UMNO is controlling and dictating everything. So if Gerakan can work in cohoots with UMNO who are blatant racists (see UMNO GE), why can't DAP work with PAS?

KY, did you realise that you are an antique now? You are still practicing racial politics which the people have rejected. To me, all BN politicians are spineless cowards and as such, I would not want to address you all with any titles. You guys don't deserve it. Did you buy yours? How much you paid for yours-ah?

I would now like to call upon the respective 5 Opposition MBs to ban this racist salivating antique from the 5 States. Better yet, put him and Ka Chuan in ISA for their seditious remarks.

BTW, please wipe your saliva off your forehead before you leave lest your mother sees you.

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written by Kcc, March 18, 2008 15:40:08
Another issue that is utmost sensitive to Malaysians, in particular to the non-Malays, is talk of May 13. Rest assured this will be one subject that will also be exploited to the hilt. ...


The only bloke(s) that will exploit this issue "to the hilt" are those who support BN and can't live without them. It includes BN-controlled media. The rest of us who voted for a change have NEVER dreamed of causing any kind of racial tension or riot like May 13. It is those who have lost who will come up with stories to cause a stir. THESE are the people whom we have to be careful of.
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written by penang1, March 18, 2008 15:40:22
Dear RPK,

Since this is your site, you are the only one who can post messages that is critical to DAP and never get punished for it. Today I posted several messages pointing out the weaknesses of DAP and all my messages were voted down to oblivion, some even got -40 points! smilies/smiley.gif

All I was trying to do is to tell DAP to shape up, for they haven't do much at all since they were elected on 8th, March. Many of the DAP state exco in Penang are in hiding, kinda. The citizens of Penang can't get in touch with them because there is no listing of their telephone number nor email address nor their website/blog.

And worse - one DAP state assemblyman, Teh Yee Cheu of Tanjung Bunga district, decided to abandon all his constituents just after being elected. Mr. Teh decided that instead of serving the people who voted for him, he would rather take a 5 month leave to tour 5 countries on bicycle.

I posted these things here as a reminder to DAP, that they have promised the people of Penang that they would be better than BN. From what I see so far, DAP isn't that different from BN after all. And when I posted all these on your site earlier today, all my messages got demoted severely. People here just don't like to here negative things about DAP, even if these things are true.

Looks like Samy Vellu is not the only ostrich in Malaysia. Many DAP supporters are also burying their he*** deep inside the sand. But anyway, thank you for posting your wonderful piece. No one can demote your message on your site, so please, RPK, please post away ! smilies/smiley.gif
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written by teo siew chin, March 18, 2008 16:00:54
DAP-PKR-PAS : do not let the ghost of the past hover over you.

YM RPK says your heart beat as one while your he*** tell you opposite things.

In that case, listen to your hearts.
Surely your hearts beat passionately for unity, strength, diversity
The 3 of you are different strands which when wound together can have the force to enjoin all the rakyat
Embrace your rakyat - keep them safe and sound, heal them.
Our future we entrust into your strong hands, your strong hearts.

As for the ghosts of the past - GET LOST!
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written by Bernard Tan, March 18, 2008 16:01:19
the mamak is planning to start another demo this thursday. If the demo happens everyone nationwide should boycott all mamak businesses.
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written by temenggong, March 18, 2008 16:10:12
It is disappointing that Karpal did not check with Husam or Pas first before reacting to the media report.

I hope this is a lesson to DAP.
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written by borneopeteliew, March 18, 2008 16:11:21
Mamaks are the biggest trouble makers in this country.

Mamaks are trying to make use of the malays to pit against the chinese and indians.

Penangites know the mamaks very well and their chameleon attitudes. My malay friends always laugh at the mamaks and they are the bud of all jokes and they give me the immpression that the mamaks are low class muslims who were hindu PARIAHS at one time before they converted into muslims.
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written by BennyG, March 18, 2008 16:14:14
Seems like the half baked 4th floor is still in operation. Plotting the downfall of DAP/PAS/PKR. How sad to see the pillars of DAP falling for their scam. Their outbursts proved one thing though. In this modern communication world, they don't have each other's handphone no.

Maybe it's time to take a good rest for the tired ones. We do appreciate them but if the very same mentality crippled the "loose coalition", hopefully, the wiser ones will make the decision. Otherwise, BARISAN RAKYAT must make the call.

Btw, the instigations must be stopped through legal channel. Otherwise the simple minds might be triggered by all the false information to react.
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written by panca, March 18, 2008 16:18:56
yup, heard the same about these mamaks demo on this thursday too. work of this SIL.
Barking at train. What is the police doing about? Permit given?!
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written by rayfire, March 18, 2008 16:29:07
I think all politicians from both side need to take a step back and review the statements and counter statements they are making as all this will reflect in their credibility and accountability for maintaining trust and harmony of all Malaysians.

I don't think the community now can easily be dragged into such situation as in May 13th.

The 5 state government are still at infancy, some with experience some still new, so let them settle down first and see them perform before passing judgment.

I hope Barisan Rakyat will have more close door discussion to iron out issues and whatever statements released, make it joint statement, that way would be better.

Let's make sure the transition and change happens in an eloquent manner in ways he rakyat can digest and accept.

From what I see, it won't be long before Barisan Rakyat form the federal gov as well. So be prepared for that level of responsibility!
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written by Sunnysoul5, March 18, 2008 16:32:08
In any organisation or community, there is bound to have some black sheeps. The best is to isolate them rather than antagonising them further. Leave well alone!

The Mamaks are also Bumiputras as well and some of them are catagorised as Malay for whatever reason. The mamaks have their rights as well, and NEP also benefit them as well. It is only naturally that they react strongly to the mere mention of the possible changes to NEP. They are human too.

BR should take note of the grouses, but work hard on the bigger agendas to demonstrate to the people that together they can make a difference.

It is time to stop discrimination of race and religion, so that we can have peace, harmony, and prosperity for all.
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written by AlwaysMalaysian, March 18, 2008 16:34:27
Hi mypanida,

I am sure not all Mamak behave like that lar. Just a small amount of them who work for UMNO/BN that will create those chaos. Which they are paid to do so anyway.

Can't be bothered with these small group of crying baby who can not accept the fact.

Cheers!
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written by Rundukon, March 18, 2008 16:34:46
History is repeating itself. The Mamaks opposed to the installation of Hang Tuah as Laksamana during the height of Malacca Empire. It was Pateh Karma Wijaya, a Mamak, who framed Hang Tuah leading to him being banished. As we know it, the Mamaks were not happy Hang Tuah being Chinese being installed as Laksamana.

We should all know by now that Hang Tuah and his fellow warriors were in fact Toh Ah, Chee Fatt, Lee Ker and Lee Kee. Kasturi was a majapahit acting as their translator. They were sent to Malacca by the Chinese Emperor as his princess Hang Li Po's bodyguards.

Mamak..Mamak!
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written by glock17, March 18, 2008 16:40:27
Dear Pete....I got some recommendation for 'em Mamaks.

They should joined UMNO and change it into UNITED MAMAK AND NANAH ORG.
Tan Sri Yackop and Datuk Abdool Azeez can lead the new formation in Penang to fight DAP.


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written by PHUKETBOY, March 18, 2008 16:44:48
The problems with most of the Mamak restaurants or stalls we have here is already run by the Bangladeshis and Southern Indians from Kerala. The Malaysian Mamaks are now Towkays doing collection everyday from these underpaid foreigners. In their free time, they go around creating a ruckus and claiming to be Malays even though some of them can't speak proper Bahasa. What a cheek to calim to be a Malay !
Have a Tom Yam Kung instead of Mee Mamak !
Watdee Khrab !
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written by Naha, March 18, 2008 16:48:51
YM RPK, thanks as usual for your fantastic writing. I hope the DAP-PKR-PAS triumvirate re*** this and take your criticism on their habitual knee-jerk reaction to a press they know is not free and fair. I only hope, my dear RPK, that this article of yours will not snowball into a racist stereotyping of all Indian Muslims aka 'mamaks'. Many of us do wish the country to mature enough to discard ethnic generalizations, and if there are factions who deserve a good poke up the a*se we ought to be specific about ringleaders names, and organizational names. smilies/smiley.gif
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written by Naha, March 18, 2008 16:50:04
I'm not one though, I am a Malay man, but hey, have I met any good mamaks in my life? Quite a few. So please, don't generalize them.
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written by Wisdom above, March 18, 2008 17:09:03
I am very sure PKR,DAP,PAS leaders seldom read MT.

Most YBs still have not use blogs.

It was their voters only who read MT .

Syabas. Barisan Rakyat.
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written by Beezee_Beezee, March 18, 2008 17:11:34
FOLKS...All the writers above are the wiser people. As we know the HISTORY so on and so forth, we should not ever write or discussed about it. If UMNO or BN wish to have it repeated then be it but we should let our supporters not to entertain. 1969 long gone and even time will not bring it back. We are in the era of computer sience. We WON this election because we care to use and communicate using computer.
So please History if for knowledge to develope our wiser WISDOM and that's why we need to progress and Keep all MALAYSIAN SAFE from any HARM by anyone.

SYABAS MALAYSIAN.....
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written by billyong, March 18, 2008 17:13:46
"I will fight against this policy till the very last, in keeping with our objective as a party which cuts across all racial lines." So now he is against the Islamic state formation and yet in 2001 during the Gerakan Convention in KL, he was seen on TV applauding Mahathir when the latter "proclaimed" that Malaysia was now an Islamic State. Why didn't he and his henchmen say something during this time? Realising this mistake, they decided to go into damage control by saying that they only supported a Secular Islamic State concept???????? If he was so righteous about going against the grain of the Islamic state, then why didn't Gerakan support the memorandum to the PM submitted by nine other ministers and who later was reprimanded and directed to rescind the memo??? Come, Keng Yaik, who are you kidding? Just for your info, I am a Chinese Malaysian and I find no problem supporting PAS. smilies/angry.gif
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written by Chuang Tze, March 18, 2008 17:26:58
Why is that broken down, leaky, walking, saliva shower making so much noise ?!! Of course ... he is an empty vessel and it is natural for him to do only what he can do ... make noise. This running dog who were part of the team who sold the voters out to the BN in 1972 has got no right to say anything except maybe kneel and kowtow to the RAKYAT for the next 100 years to apologize for selling them out for personal benefits by bringing Gerakan into the BN fold.

PAS has already stated that they are all for a welfare state and have renounced the NEP, and these PAS people are consistent and walk their talk - look at Nik Aziz. How can a running dog even qualify to make comments on what honourable humans do ?? Lim Keng Yaik, stop talking and spraying saliva on the people around you. We don't want to catch your rabies,
you Mad Running Dog !!

The Mamaks who ask to be classified as Malays are having an identity crisis !! This is probably also why the Indians have protested their lot in Malaysia so vehemently, so much so that these Mamaks want to be Malays so that they can enjoy the old NEP benefits, and lo & behold, the BARISAN RAKYAT tsunami swept in and out went the old NEP and the new NEP supports all the poor people irregardless of race ... the poor Mamaks after trying to be Malay are back to square 1 again ... even if they are classified as Malays !!
Best to work hard and earn some respect along
with your living, Mamaks! A lot more satisfying that way !!

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written by guruyahya, March 18, 2008 17:29:18
Dear All,

The Mamak Restauranteurs are not the one to be blamed in this case. They suffered a lot under the UMNO regime too. Just ask them, how many times a day does the officers and the enforcers of the UMNO local council eat subsidized (FREE) food at their restaurants? How many of those officers even brought along their family and friends to take FREE Sunday breakfast??

IT'S THE UMNO MAMAK LAH, STUPID!!


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written by fromamovingtrain, March 18, 2008 17:34:25
Lim Keng Yaik is a political opportunist. Typical of the bn goons, be it in umno, mca,mic and others. ignore him.

But some statements and things that have come out of dap the past week have been disappointing, to say the least. Granted, some may have been twisted by the media but a lot have been attributed to be true, and from the source.

I have voted for dap for more than 15 years not because there isn't a pas or pkr candidate. It is because i realised a long time ago racial politics as practised by bn, especially umno, will not see us through another 50 years. It was in the believe that dap, in association with the rest of the then opposition parties, will take us to new frontiers of a fair, just and clean government. I have my beliefs and as a muslim, i must believe that my faith is above the rest and the one which will lead me to paradise. RPK has repeatedly explained in his articles that there is no way this country could be turned into an islamic state, in its present system. What more does dap want? What political mileage do people like kit siang and karpal singh want out of demanding THEIR OWN PARTNERS declare that the will not turn this country into an islamic state? To entice the bn- supporting chinese and indians? How can that be? The realities are stark for them to see. Yet they display contempt and open suspicions towards their own ally, and in doing so giving a tremendous opportunity for umno to exploit them. If i didn't know any better, i would think that they are the real trojan horses, or worse, future bn partners.

Its time to drop these silly statements and rhetorics, put their he*** down and put their he*** together with their partners and get down to serious work to attend to real pressing matters. If anything, the malays, rather the muslims will be watching, all 60% of them. And we cannot say what happened to bn in ge12 will not happen to dap inge13, or 14.
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written by oceanuz, March 18, 2008 17:35:07
But the Karpal's statement is also reported by NST...
Can I reasonably suspect that this is also a spin/intentional mis-quote by the MSM?
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written by Sagaladoola, March 18, 2008 17:36:20
Keng Yaik is raising the spectre of Islam and is attempting to put DAP on the defensive.


My writing on that dated 15 March 2008
Title : Lim Keng Yaik Should Respect Sultan Perak and Constitution
Link : http://sagaladoola.blogspot.co...ultan.html
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written by budakindia, March 18, 2008 17:44:35
Don't think so because Abdullah likes number 13 so much! smilies/grin.gif
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written by Malaysiaku, March 18, 2008 18:01:31
Dear penang1,

I am not from Penang and I am not a member of DAP. I am just an Opposition supporter. I think you are being somewhat unfair to DAP just because they have recently won the Penang State. For heaven's sake, they have only been in power for less then 10 days! What do you expect them to do? Even when someone goes into their new office on the 1st day of work, they have to take a few months to get themselves familiarised with the workings of the company - let alone a State. To me, you are being unfair and too demanding beyond reasons. How come we never hear you complain about BN when they were running the State to the ground? The great 'PM' of ours did not do anything meaningful even after his first 100 days in office when his party won in 2004. Did you complain?

DAP, you have my support 100% (even though I am not from Penang). Congratulations on your spectacular win and we know you will be a good custodian of Penang and in everywhere you are.
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written by brancha, March 18, 2008 18:06:34
Of course Malaysia is not an Islamic state! Far from it.

Why so? Because Malaysia is parliamentary democracy wherein the parliament makes the laws without any reference to the Quran.

Don’t have to get Husam or Tuan Guru to declare that.

And what is the Quran? It is the words of our creator. That’s right our maker. And the Quran is like a manual.

An Islamic state is a state where the rule of the Quran is supreme.

If you are curious why the muslims wants to refer to the Quran, then take a peek. Don’t be afraid, it’s meant for all mankind including you.

May god have mercy on you, if you have no curiosity whatsoever of the Quran. Damn you, if you shun it out of racial prejudice. For it has nothing to do with the malays or umno or pas.

Read it and then decide.
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written by Malaysiaku, March 18, 2008 18:07:24
"the mamak is planning to start another demo this thursday. If the demo happens everyone nationwide should boycott all mamak businesses"

Can anyone tell me why these mamaks are demonstrating? I cannot see any valid reasons that they should be doing so. I believe it is the UMNO people who are trying to use the mamaks to start a racial/discrimination thing with the people. Best thing is NOT to react. It is not that all mamaks are stupid, just some. So, let's not fall for an old UMNO trick to create racial tension!
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written by aiyomanaboleh, March 18, 2008 18:07:44
Aiya! probably penang1 lost money mah!.
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written by oknyua, March 18, 2008 18:17:53
Pre-election meeting in Sabah; WHO provided AAB with the Mis-information? I think not Zam.

Maybe the present Rural Dev't Minister?
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written by teohchye, March 18, 2008 18:36:12
I was informed by my Penang friend that the so-called 1,000 mamaks protesting in Penang numbered less than 100. The 1,000 figure was a spin by the MSM to exploit the situation for BN. Most of the people there were actually bystanders and onlookers! In any case, the mata-mata did not act.
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written by batsman, March 18, 2008 18:43:29
Quite a few Mamak are extremely aggressive and extremely competitive. These individuals least need the NEP and represent what is wrong with the NEP. They are quite successful yet abuse the NEP to further enrich themselves. This is why they demonstrate to retain the NEP. This is why they make ideal candidates for UMNO membership.
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written by penang1, March 18, 2008 18:46:45



Dear Malaysiaku,

Thank you for replying.

I am not being harsh on DAP, quite the contrary, I treasure this first ever BR victory over BN so much that I want it to continue, and continue, and continue, until BN is no more.

That is why I want to make sure that DAP delivers what they have promised the people.

I did give them ONE FULL WEEK to get their act together. I don't mean get their FULL act together, just get their FIRST act together - namely, set up a way for the people to TALK to them.

There are a variety of factors that causing the fall of BN, and one important factor is that the ordinary citizen couldn't get in touch with their representative.

The BN system is such that those who supposed to serve the people turn the thing upside down - and making us, the people, the boss, to serve them instead.

And this is what I do not want to see happening in a BR controlled state. It just so happen that Penang is also the state I love the most (hey, it's MINE!) and I want to make sure that DAP does what they say.

Opening up a communication channel is actually simple - let the people know how to contact the rep. Either via phone, or email, or log on to their website/blog and leave a message, and so on.

You may think that I am harsh on DAP only, but you are wrong on that. I was (and still am) VERY HARSH on BN, so harsh that that guy who used to be the YB of my DUN, don't want to talk to me anymore. smilies/smiley.gif

Let's compare the DAP rep to PKR rep in Penang. Take Jason Ong, for example - if his constituents want to contact him, they can call him or they can email him. Both his cellphone number and his email address is widely distributed.

On the other hand, the DAP rep. Other than Jeff Ooi, no other DAP rep give out their email address to anyone.

I had something to talk to the EXCO, yesterday I visited the "jagung tower" in Komtar. I went to EXCO's office, knocking on doors, couldn't find even ONE exco there.

So I asked the people working there. No one knows the email of any of the exco. And I checked online, looking for blogs/site of the DAP exco ... to my disappointment, nothing.

So if there's something BIG happened in Penang? How are the citizen going to contact their state exco?

I understand that there would be a learning curve for anyone new in the job, but I ain't ask for a lot, I just want to have the contact info of the exco.

Is that asking too much?



To Aiyomanaboleh:

Sorry, but I don't lose any money. In fact, I made a lot of money on the stock market Monday after the election. I shorted it. smilies/smiley.gif


One last word:

Jason Ong who is from PKR, is the only one who could be contacted. Unfortunately, Jason isn't in the exco list. And the ones in the exco list, couldn't be reached. So much for "being difference".





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written by DontPlayGod, March 18, 2008 19:10:21
RPK, don't just write your comments in this blog. Send your comments to the websites of PKR, PAS, and DAP. They will at least give your comments some thoughts, and hopefully a more solid and strong coalition of BR can materialize in the neart future. After all, they do have respect for you.
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written by mikewang, March 18, 2008 19:31:48
In early 16th century, after bringing Islam to Malacca, the Mamaks, as Royal advisors, managed to convince the last Sultan of Malacca to place the Portuguese expedition team under arrest, reason being that the Portuguese were competitors after the latter spread their network in India and largely displaced the Mamak in the European spice trade.

In 1511, Malacca was lost to the Portuguese.

Just a bit of history for everyone ....
BEWARE OF INSTIGATORS !

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written by talkingback79, March 18, 2008 19:38:02
Note this:
BN states peaceful. Opposition supporters do not create trouble.
Opposition held states not peaceful. UMNO farkers go create trouble.

Verdict: Opposition parties are made up of peaceful people and should be given more respect and more states in the future.

Hip hip Hooray to DAP, PKR, PAS!!!!!
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written by bukitkuda, March 18, 2008 21:06:12
MAY 13 is the creation of UMNO RACIST to hijack people power!! It is so funny to see the penang umno racist guy melalak DEMO itu hari!!!!!!why no water cannon, tear gas, tahan reman, or ISA huh!!! why huh!!!....the answer is BN racist Governed with selective law, selective prosecution.............EVEN PAK TIDOR BELOVED SIL WAS allowed to DEMO in KLCC last time against Secretary of US......!!!!
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written by cruzeiro, March 18, 2008 21:24:43
RPK,
The sweeping statements demonizing of "Mamaks" isn't a good thing.
I personally know some very nice people from that community, who are very proud but not chauvinistic about their heritage.

It is a few opportunists in the group who have chosen to give up their heritage in favour of "Malayness" at the behest of UMNO Baru that are to blame.
These people might've been brainwashed and promised "incentives" for their actions.
They are thus victims of the "establishment racists" themselves, just like the majority of Malaysians.
I cannot see it any other way.

So let us stop playing to the "sectarian" gallery that would be a boon to the real beneficieries of such perceptions/prejudices.
Let us address their insecurities before we "label" them in any unsavoury way.
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written by harrbm, March 18, 2008 21:38:17

RUMOURS RUMOURS RUMOURS

SPIN SPIN SPIN

Read main stream newspaper BUT think about it.

I agree with YM RPK, leaders must NOT be to hasty to react to newspaper report.

Our newspaper are like BATU API.

hmmmmmmm


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written by SBennit, March 18, 2008 22:17:55
LOL!!...very funny.

C'Mon RPK......give the Mamak's a break. Most of them are alright. I had a couple of good friend in school, Ayob Sidek, Ayob Noor. They were pretty decent.

The only Mamak's I know that should be hung by the balls from a rubber tree is Mahathir a/l Mohammad and this Zam fella.



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written by renoir, March 19, 2008 00:27:05
>He blamed the younger party leaders in DAP for going against the principles set by older party stalwarts.]]

Perhaps that's a sign that DAP is being rejuvenated with young, far-sighted, and inclusive leaders. A good sign, unlike Gerakan which is now tottering on the brink of oblivion.

>"Karpal has said 'over my dead body' before when Pas propagated its Islamic state policy.]]

I think most readers know about allegations regarding Fairuz's (then Chief Judge)involvement in the persecution of Anwar some years ago. Yet, when Fairuz was appointed as the new CJ, Karpal's son Gobind Singh Deo supported the move, asking Malaysians to give Fairuz a chance. If I'm not mistaken, Karpal himself was under a sedition charge then.

So...was that a reason that, whenever mention of PAS's Islamic State cropped up, the DAP chairman tended to protest too much???

Make no mistake: I've written tons of articles and postings against any form of theocracy, and that means no to Islamic State whether ala UMNO or ala PAS. But here we've PAS already saying that they'd dropped the idea of Islamic State, and we also know that PAS doesn't have and not likely to have enough support to establish one, yet Karpal still - as if he has nothing better to do - harps on PAS's Islamic State. Maybe that's the way to be called the "lion of Jelutong", whatever that is. Maybe it's his way to scare the older Chinese, much as BN often does. I don't know. But he should remember that whenever he seeks to gladden the hearts of BN, we shall remember what his son said about the appointment of Fairuz. You might not worry about the rakyat, baiyi, but the rakyat is likewise underwhelmed by you.

Do use your talents for more noble purposes.

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written by fairnessforall, March 19, 2008 01:16:14
I suppose since Mahathir pretended to be a Malay despite being a mamak and managed to fool everyone and rule Malaysia for 18 years, now all mamaks are trying to do the same, to pass themselves of as Malays.

I think so far PAS has been doing a very good job and working well with DAP and PKR. DAP should be careful what statements they are passing as RPK said the MSM will twist it and use to their benefit. Actually, instead of saying that NEP will be abolished, they could have just said all races will be given help and there will be transparency where all tenders will be open and will be given to the person who gives the best deal. There is always 2 ways to make a statement, positive and negative. DAP should use the positive way.

PAS has reassured all Malaysians that the Islamic agenda is off and even in states which they do it, non muslims will not be bound by it, so this is a non issue.

Now the BR needs to work together, DAP please for the sake of the Rakyat, please do the right thing and compromise with PAS and PKR. After such a great achievement by the rakyat to finally deny BN a 2/3, we dont want to see it go down the drain. Preferable, there is no need to announce the disagreements. Work it out and when you guys agree, then announce the agreement. Dont let the MSM make a fool of you guys. Please show the BN that BR is more competant in running a country. Remember you guys only have 5 years.
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written by bn haramjadah, March 19, 2008 01:48:33
I think now is the time to boycott all the mamak nasi kandars, these people are useless, trying to out-malay-the-malays,
whats the simmilarity between a mamak and a milkmaid tin with 2 stones
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written by SamYap, March 19, 2008 02:07:49
Dear RPK and all fellow Rakyat here,

I lived thru the 1969 episode. I am just abit younger than RPK. Yet the memory is still very vivid. Its quite pointless now, to lay the blame on anyone, BUT know what? The saddest was yet to come. Post 1969, my friends and I watched the country slide slowly into polarizeation of the races. As a VI boy I also noted that alot of friends with excellent results were denied places in local universities. Most of them could not afford an education overseas. We have lost almost two generations of smart people who had been left out in the cold simply because they were born in the wrong race. The country is much poorer for that.

And as the 80s and 90s arrived the division between the races became more stark and the screams for non-bumi blood got more shrill from UMNO youth. Fortunately, nothing of the sort happened. But UMNO would keep reminding the non-bumis of their impending death if they did not vote UMNO ( a vote for MCA or MIC is the same thing, the two parties were like abused wives of UMNO), then the non-bumis were signing their own death warrants.

Forty f***king years of threats and ill-treatment.

It will take a long time to heal.

I can forgive but cannot forget the day, when I was called a 'babi' at the Johor Baru bus station in 1980 just because I did not wish buy a ticket from the bumiputra tout.

I can forgive but cannot forget the day when I saw two bumiputra MPPJ officers kick over a fruit stall at the SS2 pasar malam because they claimed it did not have the requisite hawking licence - whilst laughing at the couple - telling them to go back to China. This was in the mid-1990s when there were no mainland Chinese here yet. The couple were clearly Malaysians.

I can forgive but cannot forget, when the police officer told my wife, "Aiya, ini case biasa", when she went to report her bag being snatched in broad daylight in SS2.

I find it painful in my heart when my Malay friend visits and decline the drink I offered him, despite my assurance that the glass was brand new. When I was in primary school in 1960, no problem with my Malay friends drinking orange juice in my house.

And now...even as Barisan Rakyat try to form the State governments - they have to be mindful about the racial composition. Ridiculous, considering the fact that they proclaimed all Rakyat are bangsa Malaysia.

My fellow Malaysians, this is Barisan Nasional's legacy. They have damaged the race relations so much that the suspicions harboured by each race is perpetuated.

BN has stolen our country's spirit of muhibbah and its rakyat of living harmoniously alongside one another.

This is an even more heinious crime than mismanaging or even stealing from the public coffers.

I fervently hope that this "New Dawn" is a true herald of good times ahead for everyone and that PKR/DAP/PAS will work diligently to heal the broken spirit of what it means to be a warganegara of Malaysia.
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written by temanmu, March 19, 2008 04:25:58
Can some bloggers please set up a monitoring unit to check ALL govt propaganda & debunk them?

I & my friends will be willing to donate money for such a noble deed!

In USA there is such and organization called Media Matters to debunk those Republican, neo-Con, Bush & Co lies!

http://mediamatters.org/


We whould have one too!!!!!!!

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written by AsamLaksa, March 19, 2008 05:22:22
That's a weird NST editorial. Do they have the facts right? The monarch chooses a leader from the winning party is not because the monarch is forced to. It's only a convention as far as I know. Reminds me of the time Tony Blair just won the elections for the first time and mentioned to the queen that the Labour party appointed him to be PM and the queen rightfully admonished him that it was HM that appoints the PM, not the party.

Keng Yaik sure likes talking crap. Malay, Chinese or Indian MB, who cares as long as they are Malaysians and follow the spirit of unity. Is LKY still stuck in race based politics? Lucky for him he got out before GE 12 or else he would lose and then be too embarassed to make silly noises just like all the other BN component party leaders that lost.
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written by SUV, March 19, 2008 10:22:37
dap didnt expect such a swing.karpal,who is sikhular,told sing suratkhabor that they (dap) doesnt expect to govern.even in dap ceramahs,the speakers were ot that confident of ruling,capturing kerusi dun n parlimen.but pkr was confident!!in one dap cermah,d pkr guest speaker boldly told saudara gopala will win,told a thrilled audience"expect a total knockout"!!anwar was sure bn will b denied 2/3rd,and he was right.

dap better evolve.ol farts like karpal,kit siang dah ketinggalan zaman.same goes to mamak but000 mahade,kuli, and mamak buto's his son mukriz..and johor,the epicentre of ketuanan melayu,will tenggelam
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written by teo siew chin, March 19, 2008 12:13:07
".. fervently hope that this "New Dawn" is a true herald of good times ahead for everyone and that PKR/DAP/PAS will work diligently to heal the broken spirit of what it means to be a warganegara of Malaysia."
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Dear SamYap - that is a very touching call for all rakyat to unite as one.
Your sad experiences, and those of others who had gone down this broken road, must be told. From the ashes rises the phoenix.
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written by teo siew chin, March 19, 2008 12:15:53
I say SUV ah - luv to look out for your comments but gives me eye-ache all the time trying to decipher lah. Can you write regular puhleeeees. Tks.
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written by brancha, March 19, 2008 13:34:10
i dunno what the mamak community is upto but if they are that passionate about the issues they want to demonstrate on, then should not we let them. After all hasn't this forum here maintained that everyone should be allowed to voice out their grievances freely as long as it is peaceful.
As a muslim, I resent strongly the remark made by borneopeteliew that the mamaks were hindu pariahs. Thats totally unacceptable and very racist! They are muslims, period. Hey guys, lets not practice double standard here okay. Why, it is possible that the malay muslims came to know about islam from the mamak traders of early days.
So what if they came from South Kerala or wherever.
Let us not condemn racism on the one hand but act racist on the other.
It does suggests that we may not be as schooled or refined in our values and character as we may think!
They may be dark and reeked with the smell of tosei but if they're good in conduct and god fearing - they're better people - and if you don't agree - you're an authentic racist!
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written by Visinic, March 19, 2008 13:50:19
"Mamaks are the biggest trouble makers in this country.

Mamaks are trying to make use of the malays to pit against the chinese and indians.

Penangites know the mamaks very well and their chameleon attitudes. My malay friends always laugh at the mamaks and they are the bud of all jokes and they give me the immpression that the mamaks are low class muslims who were hindu PARIAHS at one time before they converted into muslims. "

Come on laa...try to be civilised a bit laaa..just because of some mamak fellas whose "lubang" are jeopardized right now with the introduction of a new state government in Penang thus breaking their monopoly and went to rally some other idiots by instilling fear of hardship in doing their business doesn't mean all mamaks are bastards.......i'm a mamak and i was against this attitude by people who "are trying to voice out the mamaks opinion". These fellows like azeez rahim and reezal merican and all the other mamak bastards who are actually disgracing the name of mamaks especially in penang are now scared shit of the new state government. Actually from what i understand a lot of the young fellas were paid between 80 - 100 and as for the majority of the crowd, they were mostly class 'F' contractors who were scared if they did not join their malay brothers which comprised of mainly class 'F' contractors to support the "malay rights" or the "bumiputera rights" or whatever, then they will face problems in procuring contracts and they were really scared of being "di pulau kan" by their malay colleagues. Then they will have to start looking at other avenues to secure their income. At the end of the day, the malay crowd did not turn up, and the mamaks were stupid enough to be there in a big crowd, overwhelming the malay crowd, and then.....well u know the rest of this story...
Now, all of a sudden, all the mamaks are painted as the plague of Malaysia....
Well, i am a mamak penang, and to the mamaks i say, this is a good lesson and u all should think before getting used by unscrupulous bastards and to the malays, frankly speaking, i don't know what to say.......whatever laaa.......RPK.....kalau i tersilap, then maybe i'm an idiot and i apologize ok......

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written by cruzeiro, March 19, 2008 19:00:22
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written by penang1, March 18, 2008 | 15:40:22
Dear RPK,
Since this is your site, you are the only one who can post messages that is critical to DAP and never get punished for it. Today I posted several messages pointing out the weaknesses of DAP and all my messages were voted down to oblivion, some even got -40 points!
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Don't worry about the points - look at it as highlights. It highlights the "popular sentiment" of the day, or the presence of "cybertroopers" of various kinds!
I for one check those out to know who are the people reading the comments ..
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written by Joe, March 19, 2008 19:12:38
To Visinic:
I was just about to blast the mamak when i read your post.

U r right, not all mamaks are like what has been portrayed. But comonla, what income increase can you get by going to the department of registration and trying to get the govt to recognise you as "Malay" instead of "India".

Thats selling your roots, for the sake of a bigger share of the pie. Isnt it? Either way your selling out and thats enuf to brand you a traitor to your blood.
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written by Joe, March 19, 2008 19:19:55
To brancha:
Yeah, I'm racist. I'm racist cos the BN govt made me racist. From young it has been brainwashed into me that I am Indian, my parents originated from there, am not a bumi putera, am nothing but a pendatang!

I can go all over the bloody world and sign my nationality at every hotel as "Malaysian", when i come back, i'm Indian.

This is the legacy of BN and UMNO!

So I am racist! I have to be cos for a great part of my life i have been taught by the govt that they are there for the malays, the chinese take care of ther own, and the indians have got noone but themselves. So does that infuse a sence of fellowship to my indian brethern? Hell YES! Cos I know they dont have nobody else.

But an Indian muslim, or an Indian Christian or an Indian Hindu, was always an Indian. That much was true. So for these ****ers to go out and get themselves to be recognised as something not indian, to deny their God given DNA makeup, is just unfatomable.

I agree with RPK, and add that these ppls should be lined up and shot!
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written by harrbm, March 19, 2008 21:33:05

Joe, i just voted up for you. Good thing that you have woken up and make a stand on justice & equality.

It is sickening to see racist among us Malaysian. From now on i hope more Joe will stand up for themselves. More malays and chinese will be infront of you.

If you see any more of racist at work. let me know. Nobody should utter anymore racist stand or remark. not even from the UMNO guys.

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written by tukjanggut, March 20, 2008 00:22:35
Dear all, for your information Anwar Ibrahim also is a mamak smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif smilies/grin.gif if i am not mistaken he is either a first generation or second generation mamak compared to mamak mahathir he is a seven generation mamak.
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It a facts now and before that the mamaks somehow influence the destiny of the malays and they are always at the upperhand. So please be nice to them.
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written by sheppardlight, March 20, 2008 02:57:26
Dear All, the truth is there is no malay anymore in this country. All the Malays here are basically a mixed of different races. Look at the faces of the malays here. some look like chinese some indian some mat salleh and they claim that they are malay. Im a mixed of chinese and Bai, its CiBai. So What?

To DAP PAS and PKR, you have not proved yet all that you have promised. So, just talk less and do your work. Once proven, you dont have to shout and claim you did this and did that for the rakyat like how BN used to. It will talk by itself, we will continue to wote you. Stop doing stupid things and get down to work.
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written by educationist, March 20, 2008 06:46:01
Yes, very glad that the ghosts of May 13 have been laid to rest. Long may they rest on peace.
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written by Visinic, March 21, 2008 15:51:03
To Joe,
As far as i know, there some groups within the mamak community who are of the belief that if in ur birth certificate its stated that u're a malay, it'll be easier to increase ur chances in getting the same opportunities as the malays or shall we say the same slice of the pie that the malays are getting, and to some extent it is true, but that was back then when the mamak community was still regarded as immigrants along with the Chinese and Indians. That belief is still strong amongst some groups within the community even when we've reached a level playing field, so to speak. Even now, if u as a mamak with names that are "un-malay" were to apply for a ASB loan, the bank will ask for a letter from ur area's Imam acknowledging that u are practicing the malay life style and u talk in malay and u dress like a malay and u eat like a malay so that they'll be able to process and approve ur application and this is just one of the many examples and instances that has brought the mamak community to this mindframe or school of thought. I'm not saying that they should go ahead and forget their identity for the sake of a comfortable future, in fact i totally disagree with what certain "mamak" organisations are trying to do by having the government to acknowledge the mamaks as malays. What did we do wrong? Why should we acknowledge ourselves and recognise our identity as anything else than what we really are? We should be proud actually that even though we are of a different bred from the natives of this country, but we managed to pull through and are quite well off compared to even some of the natives of the land. We should be proud of the fact that we're able to assimilate and adjust ourselves to the traditions and cultures of this country while still retaining our own traditions and cultures. But alas, there some quarters out there who would definitely disagree with me, nevertheless for malaysians to just paint across the board that all mamaks are traitors to their own blood and all mamaks are useless and greedy and unscrupulous and cunning and sly is like proclaiming all the chinese are scoundrels and all the malays are lazy and all the indians are drunks. As with all other communities, there are *******s and bastards but that doesn't mean that they are representing the communities as a whole.......
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written by Visinic, March 21, 2008 15:51:55
In the end of the day, its horses for courses.........
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written by Visinic, March 21, 2008 16:08:15
To joe, by saying "these people should all be lined up and shot" did u mean the whole indian muslim race or mamak community, yes i agree that the ruling coalition has hardwired the notion that we're malaysians elsewhere except in malaysia but like u said, to each his own, everybody is trying to help themselves first because they know that they can't count on anybody else, so seeing that the one thing the mamaks have in common with the malays is being muslims, they did what they had to in order to guarantee a secure and comfortable future for their childrens and their children's children, even if it was to completely assimilate themselves with the malays thus causing us to be where we are now. Shit happens and sometimes we got be practical in life. This was their state of mind then....
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written by penang1, March 21, 2008 19:55:42



To SamYap, I too lived through May 13.

One side of my house is a Malay kampung. The other a Chinese village.

Before May 13, people of both kampung were close friends. You can see them in the kopitiam drinking coffee, talk and joke and laugh with each others. They helped each others, they were like one happy family.

Then May 13 happened.

Everybody got scared. Both the Malays and the Chinese.

After May 13, people don't go to each others' kampung anymore. In kopitiam, Chinese sit in one kopitiam, Malays in another.

No more talking. No more friends. All communication stopped.

That was what happened in a remote area.

Damn that Harun guy. Damn all those racist *******s in KL and other big cities.

They made the people suspicious of each others.

They created an invisible divide, forever split the country.

Damn them. Damn the racists to hell, be burnt by the eternal fire !


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written by jonestation, March 24, 2008 01:21:36
is time to heal the scar and the next PRU maybe they can have the election on May 11 or May 13. I think Malaysian have enough with this 513-phobia and is time to walk out of this shade.
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written by teo siew chin, March 24, 2008 10:29:00
Dear Jonestation

I totally agree with you.

Dear SamYap - now i understand your passion to fight the cause! but like any good warrior, must fight with compassion too. Keep cool smilies/cool.gif
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written by teo siew chin, March 24, 2008 13:46:40
sorry- error.

It should be "Dear Penang1" - i understand you now...
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written by Arai, March 24, 2008 13:55:37
Everyone said that NEP is the main factor unequal treatment to non malay. but i have my clear conscience about this...This is my view of NEP as working in construction industry mainly for government projects.

Most of government project will be award to malay contractor (main contractor). Yes it is true.

But people must understand that the total sum of the project will not go to the pocket of the contractor(malay) alone.

Actually, the maincontractor will only do the management of the contract or take a portion of the work e.g. concreting etc.

Other works will be sublet to suppliers and subcontractors (it is allowable under the contract).

I can say 70% to 80% of suppliers and subcontractors for construction project is chinese (well i deal with them). It hard to find malay suppliers.

This explained that the chinese take roughly about 70-80% of the project. Well malay i guest about 20-30%.

Well if NEP abolished and malay cannot compete soon it will be 100% chinese project. So malay contractor can gulung tikar and go back to kampung.

My conclusion is NEP is still relevant but the implementation should be revise where only capable malay will get the project not with the political connection.

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written by Arai, April 01, 2008 13:50:08
The 13th May happen due to our failure in race relation. So this are my ideas to promote it:

a) abolished all vernacular school, only one school in Malaysia which is national school - how come Ali, Ah Chong and Raju will have chance to know each other if they go to different school.

b) The malay language and custom will be the tool for integration - you might not agreed with me but language and custom is the real barrier of integration. Language is the medium of communication. Is hard to speak to someone that had problem with it. The conversation will be short and not easy. Ali and Ah Chong will be cramp in their head (what the **** i'm supposed to say to this man). Furthermore, the malay custom such as Baju Melayu, malay literature should be wear and study by all malaysian.
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